Hyperspace is strangely familiar.....

[TwennyBux]

Hey guys, how's things?

So I took a bit of a break from the spice for a while. Conditions were perfect the other day and a good friend of mine had been struggling with an extraction which he had got little to no yield from. As you can imagine he was pretty bummed so we decided to dig out my old batch and make a day of it.

We went to our favourite spot which is a nature reserve/beach and is usually really quiet with the exception of a few boats. We set up a little tent thing on the edge of a little cliff above the beach overlooking the water. Before this day I don't think I had ever fully broken through, although I'd had a lot of intense experiences. Turns out my sweet spot is about 40-45mg. Anyway so the bong was loaded and the usual "pre-flight jitters" ensued. I got past this and off I went. I took as much as I could and went for a second hit but at this stage it was already too hard to hold the bong and light it at the same time. An otherwise simple task had turned into something very complex. The beautiful scenery in front of me had all sort of merged into one picture and was hard to make anything out. I closed my eyes and completely slipped away.

At this stage I got a feeling I've noticed a couple times before. It's a very strange feeling, the only way I can describe it is that it feels like I've been there before. But not like a recent memory, like a memory from infancy or early childhood. I dunno if that makes sense but maybe someone has experienced this? This was followed by an intense geometrical landscape which was completely amazing and indescribable. In the centre of this place was something I can only describe as a "thing", I guess you could call it an entity or something. It was more far more complex than anything 3d and had no specific shape or form. It was made up of an infinite number of kaleidoscope like patterns. My head was pretty messed up at this stage, I was thinking a million thoughts at once and it all sort of jumbled together. It also felt as though I had been there forever. I then realised I hadn't been breathing so started taking deep breaths which caused the entire landscape to pulse and get brighter with each breath.

As I started slipping back out of hyperspace I could hear a very loud sound which reminded me of a washing machine going really fast and then slowing down. As it got slower I slipped further and further back into reality. It eventually stopped and I was back, realising I had spilt the stupid bong all over myself, man that stuff stinks. I waited about 45mins and had another amazing experience but this post is already too long so I'll leave it at that for now. If you made it this far, thanks for reading and sorry for the long post!

Peace

 

[MrVortex]

Yes, I have had that feeling almost every time, even on the first time. Something very familiar about all of it, not specifically from childhood or long ago. But almost as if it never had been any different.

I also had more or less the same experience with such a thing or entity, not sure what to call it. It was many things at once, in a 4d kind of way and all at the same time. There was no specific order or events, time didnt seem to have any meaning.

Dont be shy with reporting your other experience! :thumb_up:

 

[slugware]

Hello,

Nice report and yes, i can relate to that kaleidoscopic feeling of infant resemblance of hyperspace. Not just on the visual side of things, but as 'bodily sensation'-type of thing.

Most of my breaktrhough experiences i get the message that we ( all that is happening in the Universe) are coming from there (Hyperspace) and it's always been like that and YOU ARE INFINITY.. A pretty scaring thing for me, according to my initial reaction.

I can pretty clearly recall the "YOU ARE INFINITY" part as it for me is a Key to the other world. Or the linguistic form of the phrase is given to me as such.


While in hyperspace, i get these distortions of my 'visual' presence in it. It seems that the 'route' i am being taken through in each my breakthrough experiences is somehow navigated by the frequency, charge and character of these visual distortions. When i breakthrough i almost always see this pyramid-headed guy, a demiurge, a Wizard, in whose head all the reality happens. There are millions of bright blue and green beams of light and the Universe that is the knowable, tangible aspect of all cosmic happening is the vapour that comes out wherever all these beams intersect with each other. We all are that vapour..
THis pyramid-headed guy notices that in the very first moments of my being brokenthrough i am able to see both beams and vapour. And we human beings are not supposed to see both of them at the same time. So he starts to speak in some strange language, and as i put my attention to what he is saying, i realize that what he says is the 'sonic' shadow of the vapours of those beams who intersected.

I have spent a great deal of time integrating my humble experience with the plant teacher, implementing various methods of psychonautics, such as sleep experiments, change of diet, restrain from marijuana, cannabis use as a psychedelic (great for introspection ), apart from other aspects of my introvertial life (as spending great deal of time alone in the foredst, observing nature in complete silence, going out in the woods during night, etc - things i've always loved doing,) , and so far i've noticed that some 'hidden' memories from the dmt experiences come up on the surface. Cryptomnesia, pardon the flamboyant term.

Getting back to my point, visual distortions, i was able to recall the 'memory' according to which the becoming of awareness of both beams of light and vapours in the hypercpace geometry matrix is a catalyst to a repeating pattern of :

- a face forming as a single fractal somewhere in the hypercpace geometry or architecture

(i've been in these rooms, the Alex Grey type of thing )


- then that face will roll out and form a matrix pattern , similar to the Jester greetings i sometimes get upon entering hyperspace ). The mattrix pattern will form a surface in the visual field that 'reveals' towards my 'point of view' as if a silky curtains are being waved by a light wind, thus perplexing in a slow, gentle movements.

Something very similar to the Merrie Melodies Intro Animation - a head of a transdimensional being looking upon to me from a tunnel - a doorway to the otherworld. After a few appearances of the wavy face-pattern energy pattern another element gets all my attention :

- the face or the sum of the faces waving their hand in a gesture, which mimics locking a lock on my face with a rotating movement, just like we have this idiomatic expression for 'Keep your mouth shut'. But as well the hand-mimic thing means 'THIS IS WHO YOU ARE. YOU ARE US. YOU ARE ETERNITY. YOU'VE ALWAYS KNOWN THAT.THIS IS HOW THE GAME IS PLAYED. IT IS ALL INFINITY'. In that moment i feel a great empathy for the world, a sense of harmony and bliss and mindfulness i have not encountered in other circumstances, guess a satori would be a proper comparrison here. A miniscule interval of existense in which i am given a sacred chance to peek at the Universe' mysterious aspect, a moment of divine harmony with everthing, oneness. And the hand rotates this way, because we're not supposed to be aware of that state. At least not all the time.

and as the hand rotates out i am being taken out of hyperspace. It's very interesting to me that those very first moments of which i regain unified perception of my visual field (i.e. - start seeing normally, but still with slight tryptamine buzz), all the forms i see are obscure projection of the rotating of the hand which locks me out. As if the rotating gesture has put the Universe's mystery in everything, so that it will always chase it's tail.

 

[TwennyBux]

Glad to hear I'm not the only one, it's such a weird feeling. I had it on my first experience too. It was much stronger this time though. It also reminds me of a feeling I've had in dreams before, I have really vivid dreams.

The second experience was very similar to the first. When I took the hit I didn't think I'd taken enough and I was a little disappointed but I was wrong and if anything it was more intense. I was greeted by a similar entity once again, although this time there was too hands reaching out towards me. The hands were palms up and one top of the other, if you know what I mean. It was weird because it was almost as if I couldn't see them but at the same time I could. They were constantly moving towards me but never getting closer. Of course this was all amongst the intensity of the kaleidoscope of colours and patterns. I still couldn't make out what the entity was, it had no face or any other discernible features. It was distinctively feminine though, for whatever reason. When I started to come around and I opened my eyes, I still didn't feel human and I felt like I had no eyelids, it was almost like I was switching between realities. It seemed real funny at the time and I kept opening and closing my eyes to try out this new ability. It was like one of those toys they had back in the day where you look through it and pull the little lever and the picture would change.

I just wish I could remember more of what I saw in detail.

 

[○]

Absolutely.

The raw familiarity of it is one of the most powerful aspects of the experience, for me. And the familiarity seems to be tied in with all of whats experienced during it, such as the bodyload, visions/visuals, etc. It's like one entire process thats all happening at once and is insanely familiar.

 

[Doc Buxin]

I too have witnessed that "thing" that you described, during the first or second time I ever broke through. To me it was almost like a many-armed, or many-tentacled, bejeweled, multifaceted being of sorts. How interesting to hear of others experiences regarding this.

This is my very first post on DMT NEXUS. I enjoy reading what others have to say about this subject & love to share my experiences also.

 

[TwennyBux]

Another thing I experienced, I forget whether it was during the first or second trip, was that if I turned my head my field of vision would change as if I was actually looking around this "dimension". The being would always be there though no matter where I looked.

Thanks for the responses guys it's really interesting to hear your views and feelings on the subject. Slugware, I really liked your take on it, that was a good read. Keep them coming, it's really helping my understanding of it all!

 

[Global]

That infinite kaleidoscope thing may have been the godhead. Something to contemplate.

 

[frobot]

I too experience this familiar feeling and sometimes the "entity" seems like it is welcoming me back home. I don't feel like it's any coincidence so many people feel it, or that it is some DMT induced illusion like triggering some part of the brain tied to familiar feelings. I feel as if that is where I came from and eventually where I will go back to.

 

[null24]

Aw,that's nothing compared to one of my wall o' text posts.
Good trip report, you had a little cosmic memory.
You wete experiencing anamnesia, the absence of the loss of
memory:wink: , Remembering where you were at before you decided to come down here and party with the monkeys.

 

[march]

Glad to hear I'm not the only one, it's such a weird feeling. I had it on my first experience too. It was much stronger this time though. It also reminds me of a feeling I've had in dreams before, I have really vivid dreams.

The second experience was very similar to the first. When I took the hit I didn't think I'd taken enough and I was a little disappointed but I was wrong and if anything it was more intense. I was greeted by a similar entity once again, although this time there was too hands reaching out towards me. The hands were palms up and one top of the other, if you know what I mean. It was weird because it was almost as if I couldn't see them but at the same time I could. They were constantly moving towards me but never getting closer. Of course this was all amongst the intensity of the kaleidoscope of colours and patterns. I still couldn't make out what the entity was, it had no face or any other discernible features. It was distinctively feminine though, for whatever reason. When I started to come around and I opened my eyes, I still didn't feel human and I felt like I had no eyelids, it was almost like I was switching between realities. It seemed real funny at the time and I kept opening and closing my eyes to try out this new ability. It was like one of those toys they had back in the day where you look through it and pull the little lever and the picture would change.

I just wish I could remember more of what I saw in detail.

Hands of the multicolour(red,green,white,some yellow,some blue,a lot of purple) ladies.Lengthening but never reaches...however you can feel them on your skin.All of these are in the tunnel,your one of early stops at the journey,right after 2D mandala like moving circular pattern.Then snakes join the game and things are going too complicated at least for me

 

[djsnexus]

Hey guys, how's things?

So I took a bit of a break from the spice for a while. Conditions were perfect the other day and a good friend of mine had been struggling with an extraction which he had got little to no yield from. As you can imagine he was pretty bummed so we decided to dig out my old batch and make a day of it.

We went to our favourite spot which is a nature reserve/beach and is usually really quiet with the exception of a few boats. We set up a little tent thing on the edge of a little cliff above the beach overlooking the water. Before this day I don't think I had ever fully broken through, although I'd had a lot of intense experiences. Turns out my sweet spot is about 40-45mg. Anyway so the bong was loaded and the usual "pre-flight jitters" ensued. I got past this and off I went. I took as much as I could and went for a second hit but at this stage it was already too hard to hold the bong and light it at the same time. An otherwise simple task had turned into something very complex. The beautiful scenery in front of me had all sort of merged into one picture and was hard to make anything out. I closed my eyes and completely slipped away.

At this stage I got a feeling I've noticed a couple times before. It's a very strange feeling, the only way I can describe it is that it feels like I've been there before. But not like a recent memory, like a memory from infancy or early childhood. I dunno if that makes sense but maybe someone has experienced this? This was followed by an intense geometrical landscape which was completely amazing and indescribable. In the centre of this place was something I can only describe as a "thing", I guess you could call it an entity or something. It was more far more complex than anything 3d and had no specific shape or form. It was made up of an infinite number of kaleidoscope like patterns. My head was pretty messed up at this stage, I was thinking a million thoughts at once and it all sort of jumbled together. It also felt as though I had been there forever. I then realised I hadn't been breathing so started taking deep breaths which caused the entire landscape to pulse and get brighter with each breath.

As I started slipping back out of hyperspace I could hear a very loud sound which reminded me of a washing machine going really fast and then slowing down. As it got slower I slipped further and further back into reality. It eventually stopped and I was back, realising I had spilt the stupid bong all over myself, man that stuff stinks. I waited about 45mins and had another amazing experience but this post is already too long so I'll leave it at that for now. If you made it this far, thanks for reading and sorry for the long post!

Peace

What's up Twenny,

Yeap I know the feeling you're talking about. I've probably tripped five or six times now, but the feeling of "i remember this" is a recurring theme for me as well. It's like all the peaks are remembered and consolidated at that moment and it gets really intense and hard to grasp. Kind of like you have the answers, but can't put them into anything fathomable. Like you remember this awesome joke and when you go tell it to someone you can never get it right.

Still learning about this one though, tough one to grasp.

-djsnexus

 

[Aftermath]

DMT Users and Near-Death Experiencers both experience what they consider to be God, but I wonder why DMT users usually see God as a multi-tentacled, kaleidoscopic weird thing and NDErs usually see God as a white light...

 

[TwennyBux]

I find it amazing how similar different peoples experiences are, even if a person has never read a trip report or had any other outside influence. This Godhead entity really interests me, it's almost as if it is an abstract representation of our true self. This is why your own mindset going into hyperspace is so important. I had an experience once when I was in the totally wrong mindset and the setting was less than ideal but I did it anyway. I immediately regretted taking it and the "Godhead" appeared to me as very demonic and frightening, I remember opening my eyes to try and escape, it was dark at the time and everything had an evil red tinge to it. Everything I could see was covered in very vivid hieroglyphs which were morphing and seemed very sinister. But when I go into it with a good mindset I'm greeted by an entity which seems very welcoming. It's almost like looking in a cosmic mirror of sorts and viewing your whole self and your emotions personified.

Man it's great to have a place like this where you can share these feelings, I don't get to talk about this in my everyday life. It's funny how quick people are to condemn you when psychedelics are mentioned...

Thanks for listening

 

[○]

This Godhead entity really interests me, it's almost as if it is an abstract representation of our true self.

Bingo.

 

[Al-Wasi]

"Man it's great to have a place like this where you can share these feelings, I don't get to talk about this in my everyday life. It's funny how quick people are to condemn you when psychedelics are mentioned..."

Not to mention there's a rather mature vibe here rather then a reckless one.... I love it here myself.
Glad to hear you had such a profound journey.

 

[syzygy]

I get strong feelings of remembering nearly every trip. Trips where I break through it feels like my mind is unlocked and I go "ohhhhh yeah I forgot all of this!" I thought that would start to go away once I did it more and more but that feeling has only been getting more and more intense and I feel like I remember more and more. At least while I'm there, when I come back 99.9% of it all just slips out somehow.

Part of why I love it so much. After my last breakthrough and I came back my friend asked me where I went because it was a longer trip than normal and the only word I could think to describe it is "home". When I'm there I KNOW that's where I came from and where I will go back to. When I'm here I let myself keep an open mind about my experiences but each new experience only reinforces the idea that I am returning to a place that I have always been and always will be.

 

[OneStepBeyond]

I get strong feelings of remembering nearly every trip. Trips where I break through it feels like my mind is unlocked and I go "ohhhhh yeah I forgot all of this!"

This is a pretty god description of my first (and subsequent times) using salvia. It always has that element to it but it was most jarring the first time. Now I might be expecting it more. Its a strange feeling having something be so bizarre and still feel intimately familiar. To me it felt like I'd spent years in that state a long time ago like when I was a child but I obviously don't consciously remember anything like that from my childhood.

Along with this familiar experience, another part of me felt more like this... :shock:

 

[TwennyBux]

The more and more I read about the similarities of our experiences the more it makes me believe that possibly during the early stages of life we are in some kind of naturally occurring psychedelic state.

I just wish I could remember more details from these experiences. For instance, last night I decided to go back using same dosage and similar mindset/setting but this time it completely destroyed me. I managed to take most of the dose in one hit and tried to get the rest in a second. The world became a fractured, crystalline and vibrating mess before I even breathed out the first lot of smoke. I don't remember "seeing" any entities as such this time, but I experienced ego-loss like I never have before. Nothing could have prepared me for this, it was extremely frightening. I say frightening but I don't necessarily mean it in a bad way. I even thought I would try some relaxing, ambient meditation music during the trip but at some stage I had to rip the headphones from my ears because it became something else entirely. I was in a completely different world, I had been there forever and couldn't remember why I was there. I couldn't stop myself from somewhat fighting it a little at a couple of stages. This was a much more intense experience than the last two yet I can remember a whole lot less about what actually happened. I do remember at one stage opening my eyes and looking at my wife and she looked extremely strange. I then tried to put down the bong but I couldn't figure out where the ground was, the grass just looked like a matrix of green geometric patterns, so I just dropped it into oblivion.

Maybe I should start a trip journal and write in it straight away because I would have loved to have been able to write a better report on this experience

 

[slugware]

The more and more I read about the similarities of our experiences the more it makes me believe that possibly during the early stages of life we are in some kind of naturally occurring psychedelic state.

Yes, i have pretty similar observations on this myself.

I have been elaborating on a system of mine where i'd get a glimpse of these states/mindstates from early childhood through deep introspection > walking in my town > cryptomnesia . One might call it ghetto style meditation.

I feel also there is something in common of the familiraty i experience in hyperspace and the subjective emotions from early childhood are as if a consecutive relation of being confronted to the Universe's mystery.

So far on my journeys, i have had the unmistakeble feeling that 'It', that other thing from the other side has assigned us to exist here, in this 'normal' reality, and both are in absolute connection with each other, but i cannot explain why or how. It's just a feeling i get everytime there. I suspect that beyond the habit of perception, what we call ego, egophrenic state of mind, 'this world' is no less magical and different than what we call hyperspace. It might be just the habit that makes it less tangible for our spirit. But you know, when we're 4 years old the habit is quite fresh yet, it has barely started to form, and has a lot more to 'numb out' of this. I am reffering to the age of 4 particularly, because for me this is the the theshold between infancy and childhood, i attended kindergarten at the age of 4 and 5, those are my first wider social interactions with peers.


But everything evolves 'around' this Mystery. And the hyperspacial objects i have been couple of times during dmt experiences, like these many-armed creatures playing with some indescribable 'toy', a multidimensional object, to me, represents the aspect, the quality of the Universal mystery, as a force that 'produces' different worlds in existense.