• Members of the previous forum can retrieve their temporary password here, (login and check your PM).

Hypnagogic Imagery

Migrated topic.
Cataplexy

Cataplexy

Cordelia
Well... yes as you can see I am new. Very new in so many ways. I have had one experience with DMT... but its "strain" or form of chemical composition is unknown to me. All I know is that is was a revelation to me in many ways.. both visually and spiritually. It was a vortex of absolute rapture... although in physical time it was short... in my mind's time it went on forever. It was similar to some of the lucid dreams I have, yet I was in no position to manipulate the events around me. I was merely a lucid bystander engulfed in sounds, smells, images, colours, shapes and symbolism.

Now, I do have some concerns. First of all, I am not the most stable person. I have experienced many downs and lows... in extreme manners. At the time I wandered into my first DMT trip I was in a good state of mind. I was with just one person I trusted and loved dearly, bless his soul. It went flawlessly, though at times I felt slightly timid and overpowered.

However, I have noticed some changes in my being. When I lie in bed and it is dark, or even when I simply smoke a spliff and close my eyes... I see the same swirls of shapes and colours I saw during most of my psychedelic trips including experiences with more than just DMT. I've found that the difference in my visuals is that the more potent the trip, the less hazy these visuals are and the more three dimensional they become. When I see these sober or stoned, often they are not very detailed and mainly flat patterns... and they intrigue me. Yet I still wonder why I see such phenomena.

Does anybody experience similar things? Is this abnormal or worrisome? Should I just be happy with the one amazing journey I went on and put down the pipe?
 
I am one hell of a fast typer... and an insomniac. The being bored at night kind of made the process speed up!
 
Cataplexy said:
I am one hell of a fast typer... and an insomniac. The being bored at night kind of made the process speed up!
Click to expand...


"Does anybody experience similar things? Is this abnormal or worrisome? Should I just be happy with the one amazing journey I went on and put down the pipe?"

It sounds normal to me but again nothing is normal about DMT.:)

Should you be happy with one trip? that is your choice to make no one can make that call but you If I was you I would think on it a bit and the decision may come.

Well if you are bored, there plenty of trip reports to read, teks to study, and lots of GOOD people to meet here.


PEACE and WELCOME again:lol:

MV

DONT WORRY BE HAPPY:lol:

PS LOVING THE CAT PARODY of Fear and Loathing :lol:
 
Cataplexy said:
Now, I do have some concerns. First of all, I am not the most stable person. I have experienced many downs and lows... in extreme manners. At the time I wandered into my first DMT trip I was in a good state of mind. I was with just one person I trusted and loved dearly, bless his soul. It went flawlessly, though at times I felt slightly timid and overpowered.
Click to expand...

Some trips will be overwhelming and many times you may be scared out of your mind, but each trip has a purpose and forces you to face and overcome different aspects of your subconscious mind before you truly get to become more attuned with the inner space.

Cataplexy said:
Does anybody experience similar things? Is this abnormal or worrisome? Should I just be happy with the one amazing journey I went on and put down the pipe?
Click to expand...

Its pretty normal, at least in my experience. You can achieve effects similar to DMT from Zen Meditation, Sensory Deprivation, Day Dreams, Night Dreams and NDEs. (If you are stoned, this alone is a psychoactive substance and may cause minor visuals) So I think it is that you are more attuned to other spaces and can, on occasion, experience them again. It sounds like it only happens when you are in quiet, still or dark places?

Anyway, welcome fellow newbie!
 
I see the same swirls of shapes and colours I saw during most of my psychedelic trips including experiences with more than just DMT
Click to expand...

My friend experiences the same thing. It started after his trips and only occours if he's tired.
 

Hypnagogic Imagery

Yes it is a well researched phenomena and has effected many of us at one time or another I would suspect. It also may be related to the recent thread "DNA Upgrades" not defining anyone else's experience just discussing interesting possibilities. It is not necessarily a negative thing to be concerned about.

It is like most things of its nature ie "I never noticed that before now I see it all the time"

The ancient vintage text(espically Yoga, Hindu) make clear that once you reach any upward level of conciseness there is no turning back you are stuck with your progress and perceptions one can never be a denier of any truth discovered. They warn in the language of metaphors and symbolism that the easy way is fearful and conformist but progress and road to enlightenment require knowledge isolation, comtemplation, risks and even greater fear. Something that can not be denied will forever live inside, with or with out understanding it. You are stuck with progress and may never return to that place you formerly occupied in innocent ignorance. Yeah they supposedly kicked us out of Eden without a shirt on are back.:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That is why I always say "On with the Experiment" because no matter what the possible consequence to my individual self I may perceive I know it is correct in the long run. Nothing worthwhile is easy or free and that is the Law of the universe the universe I perceive that is.


PEACE
MV
 
Back
Top Bottom