Hypothetical Changa

[lsDxMdmaddicThc]

Would it be possible to brew ayahuasca like usual using Syrian Rue and ACRB, and then boil it down to a very crude sludge after filtering the plant material?

Could one smoke this sludge or maybe purify it with IPA?

Purely hypothetical but it crossed my mind so I'll post it.

 

[AcaciaConfusedYah]

The DMT an harmala would likely be in salt form and won't vape very well. I've never tried it, but maybe some one else can chime in

 

[lsDxMdmaddicThc]

For good vaporizing it should be in a freebase correct?

If so, could one freebase it with sodium carbonate and purify for a better smoke?

 

[AcaciaConfusedYah]

If you are going to do all that, might as well just extract it using a normal tek.

 

[olympus mon]

Im not sure why you would want this. Are your intentions to have a more aya like experience by a smokable product?

My thoughts are that the sludge, even if converted to freebase form would hold far to much organic plant matter to harmala/dmt ratio to make this a worth while venture. You would fill your lungs with harsh smoke that contained very little goodies in it per hit.

 

[lsDxMdmaddicThc]

Im not sure why you would want this. Are your intentions to have a more aya like experience by a smokable product?

My thoughts are that the sludge, even if converted to freebase form would hold far to much organic plant matter to harmala/dmt ratio to make this a worth while venture. You would fill your lungs with harsh smoke that contained very little goodies in it per hit.

I think that was my problem.
Not high enough tryptamine content per volume to get me as far as I wanted.
Although I did get a rather intense trip from it!
(First timer)
OEV's, CEV's, HEAVY tryptamine body and mind feeling reminiscent of the Ayahuasca I drank although not nearly as intense.
I felt the plant spirit and smelled the familiar smells of Ayahuasca while in the trip.

Sooo...
It worked but, I don't think one could "breakthrough" or have a clean DMT experience with it.

I am working on a "better" extraction as we speak.
I'm not seeking PURE DMT just yet. I really want to work up to that.
I have some crude DMT and I'm extracting some Rue for a Changa mix.

 

[Nathanial.Dread]

DMT freebase infused into 10x B. Caapi leaf will take you about as close as you can come to a smokeable Ayahuasca, IMO.

I bet you could use your technique to super-concentrate Ayahuasca though, so long as nothing burned. An Ayahuasca candy/resin ball, maybe? It would taste disgusting, but might make for a longer-come up.

 

[lsDxMdmaddicThc]

DMT freebase infused into 10x B. Caapi leaf will take you about as close as you can come to a smokeable Ayahuasca, IMO.

I bet you could use your technique to super-concentrate Ayahuasca though, so long as nothing burned. An Ayahuasca candy/resin ball, maybe? It would taste disgusting, but might make for a longer-come up.

I just completed a rue extraction and acrb extraction.

I have 4.3g ACRB worth of DMT Freebase

And 10g Syrian Rue worth of Harmalas Freebase...

Should I make changa with White Sage or ground ACRB?

Forgot to mention the DMT is crude, but definately a huge improvement over the IPA extract I did.

This is going to be interesting!