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Maybe my post wasn't as clear as I thought it was. I didn't intend to comment on whether someone claiming that they've 'reached the limits' is right or wrong. I'm simply saying that I think it's inappropriate to say that they're definitely wrong. I don't disagree with Art's perspective (my experiences have led me to similar conclusions, in fact), I simply disagree with the way it was expressed. It helps to know that there was another thread involved that I was not aware of. Either way, I believe that everyone's take on their own experience is valid to some extent as long as it remains a commentary on their experience. Completely discounting one point of view in favor of some other subjective 'truth' felt like condescension, but it appears that I was unaware of a separate conversation that may have helped to shape that response.

The video game metaphor also added to my impression that Art was indicating that others' interpretations of their own experiences are trivial and childish. I believe that the truth is subjective and we have the ability and right to interpret our experiences in any way we see fit. I'm not opposed to discussing or even arguing our perspectives if it's done in such a way that nobody's being 'shot down' and ends up feeling as if their beliefs are wrong 'according to the Nexians'. Beliefs, by definition, are neither right nor wrong. My post was not a commentary on Art's point of view, but rather the method chosen to express it.

I hope this lends some clarity to my thoughts and precludes any 'I agree with Art- JM and AstraLex are wrong' posts in response. Those would be both incorrect and irrelevant to my point.

FWIW- I find you to be a clever and humorous person, Art, and I appreciate your contributions. I've laughed out loud to more than a few of your posts.

To summarize one more time, this is not an attack on you Art. It's just a comment on the way you chose to present your opinion as fact here. I'm naturally a smart-ass myself, so I can relate to the strategy of overstating a point to heighten its poignancy- especially now that you've added some context by quoting AstraLex's previous post. Please don't take my response as a jab- just an expression of my humble opinion and a general defense of ideas that may differ from the general consensus.

Respectfully,
-JM
 
gibran2 said:
...Second, it is illogical to say that one has reached the limits of an experience when the limits are unknown. As an example, suppose you find a large diamond. So large, in fact, that it’s the largest diamond ever found. Is the diamond you found the largest diamond on Earth? How could you know? Even if no one ever finds a larger diamond, how can you know whether or not a larger diamond exists? You can’t! So it would be illogical to say that the diamond you found is the largest diamond in existence.

So, it may be technically incorrect to say that there are no limits to the depth of a DMT experience, but limits or no, we can’t ever say that we’ve reached the limit.
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My point exactly. Thanks!
 
No offense taken. I'm not the most tactful guy you're ever likely to meet, but I'm waiting to meet the elf goddess so she can re-wire my humility chakra.
 
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That's honestly how I feel about this.
 
Actually, jmaxton - upon further reflection, I'll admit you're completely right. I was out of line and apologize to the OP for the attitude and judgement.
 
Hello everybody who read this :)

Let me start by saying that I love each and everyone of you!

Now, let me address some of your questions.

Hey Uncle Knucles :)

I completely understand what angered you and I apologies for any bad feelings that my post may have produced! But as to help you to understand me either, let me tell you a funny thing that happened with Archimedes once:

Archimedes reportedly proclaimed "Eureka!" (“I have found it!” in Ancient Greek) when he stepped into a bath and noticed that the water level rose — he suddenly understood that the volume of water displaced must be equal to the volume of the part of his body he had submerged. This meant that the volume of irregular objects could be calculated with precision, a previously intractable problem. He is said to have been so eager to share his realization that he leapt out of his bathtub and ran through the streets of his town naked, crying “Eureka! Eureka!!!”

Well, back to then, when I posted my commentary to Feanor’s book, I have had such a ‘Eureka-moment’. I was struck with the lightning bolt of a sudden realization, so I totally forgot to ‘dress my message up’ and by so doing have apparently delivered some discomfort to you! I am really sorry and now, with a calm mind, I would like to paraphrase my previous message:

“From the empirical findings of my personal DMT experiences, I have come to a subjective conclusion, that there is a definite bottom in the DMT and any other psychedelic experience. The bottom line is not a thing, visual, God, angel, demon or any other creature or experience. But a cold-shivering realization, that we, human beings, have some sort of a connection device built-in in our brain, capable or receiving and transmitting information other then by the means of the known 5 senses. And there is something on the other side of the line, calling and calling and calling and calling and calling us, wanting us to ‘answer the phone’ and to start communicating!”

My subjective proof of this is that I can induce the same mental trance-state, open for receiving/transmitting information, by the means of at least 2 different psychedelics: DMT and marijuana. Therefore, a logical conclusion would be that all of the tested psychedelics open up the same area in our brain/sub-consciousness and thus must be serving the same purpose in general. But neither of the 2 mentioned psychedelics was capable of doing it before ‘The End of the Line’ breakthrough on DMT. Thus, I consider a DMT ‘the End of the Line’ type of breakthrough to be the absolute reaching point, which sets in motion a lot of processes, ultimately leading to the opening of ‘The Channel’ (took around 4 months in my case to develop, starting time counting from my ‘The End of the Line’ breakthrough of 5-6 June 2010). More tests with more different psychedelics will follow.

All of the said above is simply my humble personal subjective opinion regarding this matter and may not apply to anybody else ;)

Hello DMTripper!

Well, let me first explain a little bit more about how such communication/channeling is taking place. I, for example, ask a question. Then I get some picture or flash in my mind, accompanied by a feeling that I know what they mean! And then I kind of start to daydream about it! Like I say the first things that come into my mind, intuitively, but it sounds as if they are talking to me, with their voice(s) and somehow guide my own inner-voice! Really strange feeling, like you are talking to yourself, but at the same time you are not! Also, I have a conviction that whatever I was ‘saying to myself’ was mere a rough estimate interpretation of what they actually tried to say to me, heavily limited by my (in-)ability to perceive, understand and interpret the information given to me in such a strange and uncommon way! Not so strange for a first-time channeler (discounting the time when I was speaking to them on my ‘The End of the Line’ breakthrough, but back to then, I was totally freaking out and wishing that crap to stop, without (a full) understanding of what was going on) :)

That’s why I asked for a testable proof, because even after 1.5 hour of interaction, I still had a nasty feeling that I may just as well be fooling myself. That I became paranoid and was now stressing myself into insanity. When I was fully going with the daydream flow, I had an absolute certainty that I was talking to them. But as soon as I was out of the flow, I started to question what I just experienced as I simply couldn’t wrap my mind around it. And then I was in the flow/daydream/trance again and then out, in, out, in. I can’t describe it more clearly now as I still don’t fully know how I did it. Maybe, after a couple or so transmissions, I will be able to grasp that concept more correctly.

I didn’t see the entities in their full glory, only their shadows or silhouettes. The dancing/waving entities looked like silhouettes/shadows of leprechauns or Irish dancers with a hat against a golden/yellow background! The woman’s silhouette was that of a caped woman, totally black against a golden/yellow background. The entities in the hyperspace looked like a crowd of totally black people against a green-black background. The Red Vortex emitting from my forehead looked like a red tunnel and was probably the clearest thing I perceived that night. Also, all of the 'hallucinations' (except for the hyperspace crowd) happened with my eyes full open and I never saw any hallucinations while on weed in 8 years of my smoking 'carrier'. So it was truly amazing just to perceive something like that, I literally could't believe my eyes! Especially the vortex/tunnel was beautiful :D

I must add, that I don’t do and never did any meditation exercises, so my mental focus was very low and definitely played a role in my inability to perceive them visually so well. I will make meditation/focus exercises a part of my ‘homework’ for the next transmission, that’s for sure ;)

I thank everybody for reading my posts and commenting on my experience! May Light and Love be always on your paths :)

p.s. A little update on the receiving technique. A few hours ago, I got myself wondering, why is it so, that even if I am ‘talking to myself’, I still have a full conviction that some woman voice (sometimes mixed with other voices) is speaking to me out of her own? Well, after pondering my memory for a little while and connection some thoughts, I came to the following conclusion.

When I am in that trance/daydream state, I hear a clear woman voice and see some pictures flying by, I talk to her/them like I would talk to a normal woman/people. No mental control or conscious effort was seemingly needed from my side. But, when I, for some reason, started to lose focus and began coming out of that state, I saw the mechanics behind it. It’s me, or at least some part of me, who is composing it!!! And it was terrifying, like I suddenly woke up a little bit and started wondering: am I getting crazy, paranoid, lunatic, insane? The voice immediately became much less clear and then I had to work me back in that state again by asking the ‘how old are you?’ question. Or by asking: “I am asking questions?” and they always responded like: “And we are giving answers!” After asking those questions a few times in a raw, I ‘got the feeling/tuned in/re-focused’ and our session continued.

I asked a few times: “Why can’t you be asking questions and I will be giving answers?” And they responded with something like: “You are not ready yet/you can’t handle it yet.” But they nevertheless asked a few questions during our conversation and said things to me without asking from my side.

Funny, I also asked: “You are pretty cool guys, why did you need to start our conversation by scaring the living crap out of me back there?” “It was the only way to get your attention.” I was like: “Really?!?” And they somehow made it very believable for me, like they showed a snap-shot of my state of being back to there. And I immediately got their point somehow :)
 
Hey AstraLex.

Could you ask "them" something that you can't answer so as to differentiate between communicating with someone or something, and losing your mind? Maybe a math problem that you aren't able to do in your head, something like that (don't let then use your calculator! They could use their own, though...).

This would go a really long way in getting people to believe that the voice(s?) that you are hearing are not you sneaking up on yourself. Not that you need to prove anything to anyone. But I, for one, am really curious about an experiment like that. It was proposed as a way to prove that the "entities" that we encounter whil under the influence are independent beings. The only problem is we don't usually have time, maintain the idea while travelling, or see the same entities regularly, so asking a complex math question annd getting an answer seemed impossible.
Your continued contact and extended lucidity while communicating with your companion solve all of these problems. If you are willing to try this, it would help quite a bit.

Pokey the Fascinated
 
AstraLex said:
Like I say the first things that come into my mind, intuitively, but it sounds as if they are talking to me, with their voice(s) and somehow guide my own inner-voice! Really strange feeling, like you are talking to yourself, but at the same time you are not! Also, I have a conviction that whatever I was ‘saying to myself’ was mere a rough estimate interpretation of what they actually tried to say to me, heavily limited by my (in-)ability to perceive, understand and interpret the information given to me in such a strange and uncommon way!
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This reminds me of Salvia. Entities jacked my inner voice spewing broken nonsense. It's what I'd imagine schizophrenia to be like. You hear people talking to you through your own inner voice, but you feel it's not yours.
 
Very interesting read, I thank you for taking the time to write this up and share it.

Next time your in contact tell them to send me an invite , they will surely know when i am ready :d
 
"Yesterday I realized, that my connection to Whatever-It-Might-Be has become so great, that even 1/3 of 1 normal joint is enough to cause a full blown breakthrough/connection/transmission/channeling to the Other Side for at least 4 hours straight."

Honestly man, thats all normal with cannabis you are def not an exception here. This happens to me every time I smoke that much..2 jointes between 6 people is a huge fucking dose for me if I smoke until the joints are finsihed..I cant take more than 1 hit of cannabis becasue I usually only smoke once a week to once a month..sometimes not smoking for like 6 weeks..this will happen EVERY single time I smoke if I take more than 1 hit..never happened when I smoked daily, and it also happened before I ever smoked DMT also when I smoked after taking a break, and it also happened the first time I ever really got stoned. I dont think DMT or some permanent connection to hyperspace has anything to do with that here..other than the fact that everyone is connected to hyperspace already weather they know it or not.

Dont fool yourself into thinking that smoking 1/3 of a joint is not a LARGE dose when you smoke once a month..this all just seems quite typical of the dose relative to how often you have been smoking. I know what you mean and ive been there with cannabis many times, its more frightening than even smoking DMT, becasue it can last so long.
 
I know you didnt mean bad but please avoid talking in this way like 'trip ballz' and shroomery-style slangs. :)

But yes, I agree cannabis can have very strong effects when one doesnt have tolerance. But its significantly different than psychedelics, I dont know if I would equate it in the same way saying weed is psychedelic. I do know this is arguing semantics and that its all about definitions, but at least personally there are some quite significant differences, so in my own subjective arbitrary definitions I wouldnt say non-tolerance weed effects are psychedelic.
 
Hello everybody,
may the eternal Light and the absolute Love always shine on you, while you walk your paths!

Hey Pokey :)

You question really got me thinking! At first, I was thinking - let’s do some math! But then I thought that doing some sums could not be seen as a reliable proof of getting information from ‘somewhere else but my head’. Maybe, it would simply activate some subconscious neural pathways enabling me to be like a math wonder child for a while.

So, I was thinking, the only way to reliably test the possibility of getting out-worldly information would be by asking some semantic information, which I never should be able to know. I even designed an experiment in my head, like having a questionnaire about the people on this forum! So, I would ask if there is any information they can communicate to me about the members of this forum. And by information, I mean real hard semantic information – like your real name, date of birth, city of birth, the names of your parents, their date’s of birth, your pet’s name (if you have any) and so on. This I will ask about like 10 members of this forum and then I would PM them with that information, asking if it’s correct.

But something wasn’t right about this approach. And then I thought – wait a minute! Let’s assume, I will be able to get that information. What about other kind of information? Like your credit card numbers, Pentagon login codes, nuke launch codes, all kind of military and secret information, the really bad and shameful deeds, with proof, of all people on the planet (so I can enforce them to do my bidding on the fear of publishing the information) and alike? Well, then it should be possible too. I consider myself to be a good guy and I don’t see myself using any of the information in the wrong way, but… How about others? How about me, since we know that information IS power and having access to all information IS having an absolute power, which in the end corrupts absolutely?

Therefore, I really hope that it’s not possible to get any hard semantic information in this way. Or that there is at least some build-in check on intentions of the user (so like only saints and alike would have an access to). Anyway, I will test this method anyway and reply on the results. I stress again, I hope it’s not possible, otherwise it would have some really far stretching consequences for all of us, especially considering the fact that some people already made ‘the contact’ before me…

And I keep thinking of other ways, how I could scientifically proof what I experienced (and can experience at any given moment). Any suggestions anybody, except of asking for information? Also, when having a contact, I will ask them if they know of any method to help me to proof their existence. So I can design a ‘real’ experiment (I can get access to our Psychology Laboratory at Leiden University free of charge and recruit proof-persons among my fellow students, so I don’t worry about the financing of any experiments) and then write a paper and publish it in Psychological Review or any other respectable psychological journal :) Let’s see if we can figure something out ;)

Hi Mercury_Hg :)

Thank you for your input! This make me even more eager to test my ‘transmitting/receiving device theory’ with other kind of psychedelics, other than weed and DMT. Salvia, mescaline and mushrooms are definitely on the list!

Hey Chupang :)

"So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened." (Luke 11:9-10) ;)

Ask and you shall receive! Just ask: ‘I want to go to the source of this all, no elves or blah blah. I want to go to the source of this all!’ And you have to really mean it! Then take as much DMT as you can, close your eyes and blast off! If everything done correctly, you will get in that Square Timeless Chamber and she (Miss Psychedelic/Elf Goddess/Your alien contact person/That Woman) will meet you there. Simply being there will somehow start the hardwiring process. That’s how I got there (I posted it along my introduction post to DMT-Nexus), though back to then I didn’t know what I was experiencing and I couldn’t relate to it in any way! If you follow the link, you will see that I didn't edit my post since the moment of posting (6 June 2010), so you will get the full rough impression of what it made on me, without the knowledge I have now! You have the advantage of knowing (which I didn’t have); maybe it will work for you as it did for me or even better!

Anyway, when having my next transmission, I will ask them if they can knock on your door a little harder. But be ready, their way of getting your attention is by scaring the living crap out of you! You will probably think that you have become schizophrenic and what not ;)

Hello fractal enchantment :)

I totally agree with you, fractal enchantment, that (quote): “…Dont fool yourself into thinking that smoking 1/3 of a joint is not a LARGE dose when you smoke once a month..this all just seems quite typical of the dose relative to how often you have been smoking...” I couldn’t agree more, I, for instance, was always waiting for that ‘first joint’ after having a break for a long time. Happened like 8 times in 8 years that I was a heavy daily smoker. I always go on vacation for 3-4 weeks in August, so by this time I know how strong the first joint(s) are after having had a break for so long. My friends, who occasionally have breaks for a few weeks, refer to that phenomenon as ‘getting stoned like the first time’. It’s definitely ‘tripping ballllz’ as anuggslife adequately put it. So, by quoting you again: “…I know what you mean and ive been there with cannabis many times…” :D

But, yes here comes a big big big HUGE FREAKING BUT! But this time it was different!!! It was not simply ‘heavily tripping ballllz’ (believe me, I know what it means after having had about 8 long breaks and 8 ‘starting again’ phases), the whole feeling was totally psychedelic (a bit like after other breaks, but now heavier/more psychedelic) and I heard That Voice!!! This was the third time in my life that I heard That Voice! First 2 times being while journeying on DMT, the third time was now. The first +/- 20 minutes were ABSOLUTELY FRIGHTENING, because I couldn’t suppress that voice! Then the connection became weaker and I actually had to sort of to focus on it. That’s where I started to overcome my fear and actually talk to them.

Before that moment, I considered that Marijuana was my most absolute safe haven. I knew everything about that drug that I could know! Smoking 3-4 joints a day (per person!!)? – Check! Having a break for a long time and totally ‘tripping ballllz’ after that break? – Check! Having a schizophrenic kind of experience and that voice for 4 hours? – No freaking check!!! I was like NO WAY!!! How have you hijacked my weed, you fucking source of all psychedelic, I HATE YOU, now what am I supposed to do now?? Not smoking for my entire life?? ‘Almost crying at seeing my little stoned weed world, which I thought to be safe and totally mine, collapse’.

Now it turned out to be a good experience after all, opening a lot of new possibilities, like opening a new chapter in my life, but still…

May I quote you again? :) “…I dont think DMT or some permanent connection to hyperspace has anything to do with that here..other than the fact that everyone is connected to hyperspace already weather they know it or not...” Are you saying that there is no permanent connection to the hyperspace from my side, while everyone is connected to Hyperspace anyway? Isn’t it a contradiction in itself? :)

But I guess I know what you mean. In fact, I have been thinking of the same thing. All those synchronicities, that led me to the use of DMT, to changing my bachelor from ‘Russian sciences’ to ‘Psychology’ and such… What if I paraphrased that piece of my post that you quoted to: “Yesterday I realized, that I have been connected to Hyperspace (Whatever-It-Might-Be) al the time. Having had ‘The End of the Line’ type of breakthrough on DMT helped me to fine-tune to its specific frequency. So now, if I use excessive amount of marijuana (enough to bring me in that specific psychedelic kind of trance, depending on dose - regularity of use curve), I automatically re-tune to it. No matter what. Therefore, DMT helped me to realize that/showed me the required brain frequency, but didn’t cause the connection/experience all in itself. It was there all the time, I only needed DMT to show me the right frequency.” Would you be more satisfied? :)

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I would like to thank everybody for reading and commenting in my thread, as I find the things discussed here to be of a great importance, ultimately leading to a new chapter in the Science of Psychology and maybe even further! ;)
 
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