If DMT has taught me something...

[ymer]

It is that it's not the answer.

And that's the most important lesson.

 

[gibran2]

It is that it's not the answer.

Depends on the question.

 

[Godsmacker]

Care to elaborate?

 

[BringsUsTogether]

I feel like the reflection and integration might teach you that DMT it not the answer, but the experience itself definitely feels like total and complete understanding

 

[Legarto Rey]

Zen teaches that "seeking" the answer, misses the point. The whole, finger pointing at the moon, analogy. THIS, and every aspect of our capacity to experience "the experience", is the answer. Sorry, couldn't help myself.

Metaphysical sophistry aside, tryptamines(and other true entheogens), provide regular folks with a generally reliable means of accessing deeply mystical mind states. Non entheogen techniques(meditation, chant, drumming, physical extremis....etc), while useful as adjuncts and integrators, offer only a minority, reliable, ergonomic and reproducible entry into the "ego-death" EXPERIENCE.

If ones intention is to visit said realms, for spiritual, divinatory or diversionary purposes, then true entheogens(including Direct Mind Travel), can be and are AN answer. Fun topic, thanks "ymer"!!

Peace

 

[BundleflowerPower]

Zen teaches that "seeking" the answer, misses the point. The whole, finger pointing at the moon, analogy. THIS, and every aspect of our capacity to experience "the experience", is the answer. Sorry, couldn't help myself.

Metaphysical sophistry aside, tryptamines(and other true entheogens), provide regular folks with a generally reliable means of accessing deeply mystical mind states. Non entheogen techniques(meditation, chant, drumming, physical extremis....etc), while useful as adjuncts and integrators, offer only a minority, reliable, ergonomic and reproducible entry into the "ego-death" EXPERIENCE.

Peace

Agreed. Finding new questions is much more interesting.

 

[Orion]

Zen teaches that "seeking" the answer, misses the point. The whole, finger pointing at the moon, analogy. THIS, and every aspect of our capacity to experience "the experience", is the answer. Sorry, couldn't help myself.

Metaphysical sophistry aside, tryptamines(and other true entheogens), provide regular folks with a generally reliable means of accessing deeply mystical mind states. Non entheogen techniques(meditation, chant, drumming, physical extremis....etc), while useful as adjuncts and integrators, offer only a minority, reliable, ergonomic and reproducible entry into the "ego-death" EXPERIENCE.

Peace

Agreed. Finding new questions is much more interesting.

Yeah, like 'what is this topic actually about?'.

 

[inaniel]

If this thread has taught me anything



well, it hasn't, but it reminds me how much I dislike vague pseudo-insightful references.

 

[DeltaSpice]

It has taught me that we are not alone.

 

[TGO]

Well of course it is not the answer. Not by itself. It is a key and a stepping stone to higher consciousness, IMO. What you integrate or "find" within a DMT session is generally more puzzling than if we had not journeyed at all...then again, this thread is very vague on what we are trying to discuss sooooooooo...

Have a nice day! I hope you do find whatever it is you are searching for.

 

[The Traveler]

It is that it's not the answer.

Depends on the question.

Indeed, like what is short for 'dimethyltryptamine'?




Kind regards,

The Traveler

 

[universecannon]

If this thread has taught me anything



well, it hasn't, but it reminds me how much I dislike vague pseudo-insightful references.

:d

 

[Nathanial.Dread]

Oooh, I can play this game too!

DMT is not
But DMT is, also
None of this makes sense​

Blessings
~ND

 

[Doc Buxin]

If this thread has taught me anything...

...it is that the OP believes that there are "answers".

 

[No Knowing]

ANSWERS may be hazardous to your Uncertainty. Danger! ANSWERS carry
High Overdose Potential. Remember: ANSWERS are the Thrill That Kills.

JUST SAY NO (thank you) to ANSWERS.

-Antero Alli

 

[Nathanial.Dread]

If this thread has taught me anything...

...it is that the OP believes that there are "answers".

I take issue with that mentality, actually. Before I started working in neuroscience, I studied mathematics, and I think there is a level of absolute certainty you get in something like number theory that should satisfy anyone. You can take issue with the fundamental axioms, but, within the system, absolute truths are knowable. The question: are there infinitely many primes is answerable.

Blessings
~ND

 

[SpartanII]

If this thread has taught me anything...

...it is that the OP believes that there are "answers".

I take issue with that mentality, actually. Before I started working in neuroscience, I studied mathematics, and I think there is a level of absolute certainty you get in something like number theory that should satisfy anyone. You can take issue with the fundamental axioms, but, within the system, absolute truths are knowable. The question: are there infinitely many primes is answerable.

Blessings
~ND

Sure, in this reality maybe...

 

[Nathanial.Dread]

If this thread has taught me anything...

...it is that the OP believes that there are "answers".

I take issue with that mentality, actually. Before I started working in neuroscience, I studied mathematics, and I think there is a level of absolute certainty you get in something like number theory that should satisfy anyone. You can take issue with the fundamental axioms, but, within the system, absolute truths are knowable. The question: are there infinitely many primes is answerable.

Blessings
~ND

Sure, in this reality maybe...

Did you catch the part about needing to accept the base set of axioms? You're restricted to the system you're working in (which is in turn restricted to one reality), but within the system, there is absolute truth.

Blessings
~ND

 

[SpartanII]

If this thread has taught me anything...

...it is that the OP believes that there are "answers".

I take issue with that mentality, actually. Before I started working in neuroscience, I studied mathematics, and I think there is a level of absolute certainty you get in something like number theory that should satisfy anyone. You can take issue with the fundamental axioms, but, within the system, absolute truths are knowable. The question: are there infinitely many primes is answerable.

Blessings
~ND

Sure, in this reality maybe...

Did you catch the part about needing to accept the base set of axioms? You're restricted to the system you're working in (which is in turn restricted to one reality), but within the system, there is absolute truth.

Blessings
~ND

Hey! My axiom is just fine, thank you.:!:

(I didn't know all your big words and stuff, sorry). I think I get it now though.):lol:

But the thing is, if there is absolute truth, but only relative to the system you're working in, then it's not really absolute though is it?

Semantics are funny...

 

[Nathanial.Dread]

If this thread has taught me anything...

...it is that the OP believes that there are "answers".

I take issue with that mentality, actually. Before I started working in neuroscience, I studied mathematics, and I think there is a level of absolute certainty you get in something like number theory that should satisfy anyone. You can take issue with the fundamental axioms, but, within the system, absolute truths are knowable. The question: are there infinitely many primes is answerable.

Blessings
~ND

Sure, in this reality maybe...

Did you catch the part about needing to accept the base set of axioms? You're restricted to the system you're working in (which is in turn restricted to one reality), but within the system, there is absolute truth.

Blessings
~ND

Hey! My axiom is just fine, thank you.:!:

(I didn't know all your big words and stuff, sorry). I think I get it now though.):lol:

But the thing is, if there is absolute truth, but only relative to the system you're working in, then it's not really absolute though is it?

Semantics are funny...

This gets into some kind of Godelian logic stuff, but given that you're always within a logical system (and that all systems are incomplete), I feel like it's best to make do with what you have.

Blessings
~ND