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If you're having trouble getting crystals from acrb, use this tek (thick-light)

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followed tek closely. got a sticky off white goo at bottom of small test pull, i think my bigger pulls will follow same suit. i waited 6 hours, seen a few crystals floating, nothing else appeared, so i just stuck in freezer. my small test dish has crystals which i fear will melt into goo once dish is dry, bottom of dish is covered with waxy substance.

goo has a sweet dmt smell to it, i suppose i can make changa if it never crystalize, but i wanted crystals.

EDIT.

I Got Spice. Very white crystal clear spice. it seems as if the crystals i thought as goo, did hold structure. super small amount, but it's from a small test batch. the rest is in the freezer as of now. I' will proceed to do more pulls.

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The bark I used is going to be sent off for a complete alkaloid profile so I'll post that info when it comes.

I also think that using a large amount of bark might be the way to go.
Boil 500 grams and there's going to be alot of dmt in your boils after there based and the naptha is added it's kind of naturally selective or predisposed, so i've heard, to become saturated with dmt before nmt. This might be the reason My first pulls were almost all dmt and towards the end it got more and more pasty/waxy/oily.

There are just so many factors to consider that it's overwhelming.

But if it's true that naptha prefers dmt to nmt then the above theory might hold some crystals.
 
those xtals dont look fluffy? were they quite waxy and gooey? did you use powder or shredded bark? what was your yield? how much bark did you use and what was your final weight?
 
that pic was when still drying.. i suppose i can take another one of it all dry. looks like white snow. that bowl in pic had a bit over a gram(not including goo). certainly hoping to pull a lot more, i used 500 g bark. my first pull was my first pull ever and i did make a mistake. will update on final weight when all done.

btw, as the goo dry, it gets easier to separate from the crystal.. i like the goo, i licked it off my fingers and got a strong buzz..
 
I also ended up with a red wax ...it was weird because crystals were perfect white in the first few pulls... Then melted into a goo... I put it down to living in the tropics at the time... But great to smoke ... I personally think the NMT creates a different effect. I've read somewhere that confusa root bark is orally active by itself ... And contains traces of 5 meo dmt ... Can anyone confirm this ? Ill try this trek next time round . Thanks
 
Dr John said:
that pic was when still drying.. i suppose i can take another one of it all dry. looks like white snow. that bowl in pic had a bit over a gram(not including goo). certainly hoping to pull a lot more, i used 500 g bark. my first pull was my first pull ever and i did make a mistake. will update on final weight when all done.

btw, as the goo dry, it gets easier to separate from the crystal.. i like the goo, i licked it off my fingers and got a strong buzz..
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Can you elaborate on the mistake you made?
 
Beteween The naptha pulling mostly dmt and the climate I think this was a perfect storm, I ordered more from the same supplier to compare reslults but am still waiting on that. All I can say is AC is a very interesting treee, and deserves a lot of attention.

Also if anyone can help with a tek for wiki I would appreciate it since i'm not to good at using the format one must write in to create the page, any help????
 
Hey Thick-Light!

Great write-up, a buddy of mine has an order of 500g AC on the way and this sounds like a great tek for him, nice work! Question: what is the function of freeze/thawing the bark? Also, on you subsequent boils are you doing 2000ml H20/100ml Vinegar for each one?

-Respect
 
I think it lyses the cells so more alks can come out ie.. san pedro extractions. Not neccassarry but seems to help.
 
The more DMT you can get in the in the boils the more dmt that will saturate the hot naptha
that upon cooling drops crystals and structures are formed. It's def. better to start withh 500 grams ensuring that the dmt conent will be high that way your naptha will become staturated with that first. Resulting in great dmt yields.. I added icecream salt and pulled more nmt/dmt out taking it to almost 8 grams as a total yield.
 
thick-light said:
I think it lyses the cells so more alks can come out ie.. san pedro extractions. Not neccassarry but seems to help.
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Thanks! Welll, with your apparent success, no point skipping any steps :) and sorry to ask aain, but to clarify, you are doing each boil with fresh distilled 2000ml h2o and 100ml vinegar right? So in the end you took 10000ml down to 1500ml.. given my complex math calculation is correct :?

Oh and if you keep at it, you might just get that target 9grams after all 😁
 
Thick-light,

Thanks for sharing ur tek with us it is very helpful. I just ordered 454g of acrb and I'm about to try my first extraction usin your tek. Could you please message me, I have a few questions about it if u don't mind. I don't want to make any mistakes so I'm trying to know as much as possible.
 
I have been prompted to put it up on the wiki but find laziness and a little hatred of computers and whatever code(I don't even think it uses one to write it up. LOL) but follow the steps on the first few posts, the rest are just problems I ran into and how I solved them. 150ml gar to 2000ml h2O boiled 1-2 hours. Powereded bark sucks, good luck with the filtering for consecutive boils, unless you got the macgruber edge. 5 boils got it alll out although the 5th one was light brownish red and wasn't completely nec. but I like to get the most out of my bark. This also started as an experiment so feel free to do what your noggin teells you to, and remember that nmt content in this bark changes from season to season and i'm sure there are other factors..... be careful have fun, post results.
 
quick question thick light. were you combining all of your cooks together? and were you using a collection jar for your naptha or did you keep each pull separate?

anyone else ending up with goo, are you combining the cooks then doing a few pulls and collecting all into 1 jar?

cant believe i didnt think of this, but i combined all 3 or 4 cooks together, then did 3 pulls into 1 collection jar before trying to freeze. if thick light was getting more goo toward the end, after a couple pulls, the naptha was picking up a higher ratio of nmt, it would be a good idea to keep each pull separate :p
 
Namaste everyone.

Once again, Thick Light ~ Amazing Tek/Well Written and very informative.

I'm curious though, assuming one is using Root Bark, from a well aged tree(10+ years), in ideal season for maximum content, shouldn't there be more of a yield with Acacia Vs Mimosa.

For instance, research has shown that:

Mimosa tenuiflora
root bark has been recently shown to have DMT (Dimethyltryptamine) content of about 1%.[3] The stem bark has about 0.03% DMT
~And~
Acacia confusa:
Root bark N-methyltryptamine, 1.43%[5]
N,N-dimethyltryptamine, 1.15%[5]

(Source Wiki)

Other sources, including certain online vendors have claimed Acacia "To contain up to 2.5x the dye of Mimosa"

There for shouldn't the yield be much more from 1st and 2nd pulls? I ask because a friend of mine had completed extraction in the past and produced far greater results then that listed above.. No Offense intended. Just seeking honest answers and semi factual opinions/theories. Thank you.


P.S Has any one else "tweeked" the Original tek? I.E Gently Boil for extended periods of time?
 
how finely did you gring your rootbark? and did you strain off the vinegar water from your boils or just decant? if so, how? acacia doesn't seem to be available in powder like we got used to with mhrb. sorry if those were asked already, I didnt see that they were.
 
thick-light said:
I have been prompted to put it up on the wiki but find laziness and a little hatred of computers and whatever code(I don't even think it uses one to write it up. LOL) but follow the steps on the first few posts, the rest are just problems I ran into and how I solved them. 150ml gar to 2000ml h2O boiled 1-2 hours. Powereded bark sucks, good luck with the filtering for consecutive boils, unless you got the macgruber edge. 5 boils got it alll out although the 5th one was light brownish red and wasn't completely nec. but I like to get the most out of my bark. This also started as an experiment so feel free to do what your noggin teells you to, and remember that nmt content in this bark changes from season to season and i'm sure there are other factors..... be careful have fun, post results.
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I added a link to your OP in the wiki under A/B teks... :thumb_up: if for some reason you don't want it there, I will remove it.
 

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