In light of hyperspace, what is the purpose of life on earth?

[AikyO]

Interesting topic. I definitely came back from my first experience with more questions, it has a bizarre quality quite unlike anything else, and a thirst for everything Spïce, a fascination not only for the experience in itself but its history, its ripples in our culture, ancient ones, etc.

A thread I had going on for a while lately was born from the realization that the Imagination is real, it's the most real thing. It's the source of our consciousness, and the best link with what is inside of us. Yet everything is blurred within this realm - that if perceived animistically would be called spirit world - everything is mixed up. Like at nights, shadows are merging, boundaries melting, everything is one and the only light is which of the stars. What is far beyond - what an interesting coincidence that at night we plunge in the depth of ourselves, the far outreaches of the soul then!

This realm of imagination is like a language. You have to learn. Complaining about its non-sense, or not understanding it, would be like complaining of not understanding someone speaks another language you have no prior understanding off. So you have to learn, because we forgot. And it's quite a shifting realm, you are confronted with your own perception radically, that shatters your ego and your beliefs. Questions and answers they get blurred, enigmatic, multilayered, ...

And to me that's Truth. I like her like that. I also like this quote:

"The answer is never the answer. What’s really interesting is the mystery. If you seek the mystery instead of the answer, you’ll always be seeking. I’ve never seen anybody really find the answer, but they think they have. So they stop thinking. But the job is to seek mystery, evoke mystery, plant a garden in which strange plants grow and mysteries bloom. The need for mystery is greater than the need for an answer"

>>> Ken Kesey, “The Art of Fiction CXXXVI”, The Paris Review, 1994 >>>

Answers are definitive, still, dead. That's what our modernity is seeking. We are so afraid of shadows and uncertainty, we want clear light bright as day microscopic one hundred percent certainty. Control the disguise of knowledge. This stillness our ancestors were aware off, written language was seen as a dead form of expression, sometimes cursed. But what is ephemeral is ...

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Ugarit you said "Beyond the confines of our bodies", I think otherwise - it's actually something that came to me last night ...

What is a God?

Many answers from many different point of view (historian, anthropologist, religious, etc). One idea that comes back is that God (Brahman whatever, an ultimate form of the concept God) is all knowing, or all-seeing, or at least has a capacity for omniscience. So it relates to knowledge.

Now imagine. You are conscious. Conscious of yourself. You are your body ... well. Really? You can be conscious of your thoughts, your breath, senses, but what is in your body is so entirely beyond your control. And it's called harmony, you function as One.

So it does not really matter whether it's in our out, it will always be beyond.

And how it affects you is all that matters. How loud those words are. How full of awe those feelings leave you with. If I wink, more magic than in thousands years! ; ...

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Whatever the answer is - do not kill wandering and wondering and windering and wundering and wendering and w°ndering and w*ndering and w#ndering and w@ndering and w=ndering and w9ndering and w.Õ.ndering all them laughing babies and quiet leaves ...

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[Bancopuma]

If there is a deeper purpose to our being here (than the biological purpose of reproduction) I think it something along the lines of growth through experiences, learning and love.

As Zilsk stated:

To Experience; to learn; to grow. The hyperspace experience is so intense and happens so fast that I feel you are not able to take it all in fully, or at least is the case for me. The human experience is slower so that we can experience the processes of life.

This perspective is also very much echoed by people who have had NDE's, as well as psychedelic experiences. Some OBE'rs who take a multidimensional view of the universe view this physical reality and Earth in similar terms. Some of them perceive Earth as being a special environment as it allows for the mixing of consciousness at various different states of evolution, and a training ground of sorts. Take that with a pinch of salt of course, but it is interesting how people who have explored consciousness in different ways and through different experiences come to quite similar perspectives about what the "purpose" of physical existence is.

"The answer is never the answer. What’s really interesting is the mystery. If you seek the mystery instead of the answer, you’ll always be seeking. I’ve never seen anybody really find the answer, but they think they have. So they stop thinking. But the job is to seek mystery, evoke mystery, plant a garden in which strange plants grow and mysteries bloom. The need for mystery is greater than the need for an answer"

My all-time favourite quote, you beat me to it! 8)

 

[Erik]

This is another interesting explanation, actually. I was looking at things from the perspective that we live on Earth, die, and go elsewhere. Perhaps, as I've heard others mention, we are simultaneously elsewhere and on Earth. If this is the case, then Earth is unlikely to be a larval stage, and more likely to serve some other purpose (classroom, dimension that needs tidying up, etc.).

I my experience we exist at the same moment in different realms. I haven't figured out why we are a split-off consciousness on earth, but I suspect that existence in this normal realm allows us to live a slow life and offers us the possibility of introspection. During a DMT experience introspection is not as easy, if possible at all.

That said, I did meditate under prolonged influences of DMT and being heavily dosed. DMT allows for understanding of thought processes themselves, what they are; it opens up a meta-perspective not available normally. Sadly, it is not easy to carry the gained understanding back.

I also tried to crack the universe while under DMT: it could be described as an approach to escape the ever permanent frame of perception. Perception and consciousness are the mystery of mysteries, as without them experience would not be possible.

I do not take perception in the normal realm as granted and trustworthy, and I used the same approach while under DMT. In my case it lead to strange experiences, but without phenomena so I cannot describe it properly. Basically, while under DMT I used a drill of mind to open an entrance out of consciousness as we know it -- even under DMT, we are still a limited consciousness.

 

[Jees]

In the multitude of possibilities, how about "No purpose"?

Or at least how we think of the word 'purpose'.
As one starts to deconstruct 'time' as we know it, immediately 'purpose' start to loose it's known values rapidly because 'purpose' is very much past-recent-future dependent.

I think 'purpose' has a meaning within a conceptual frame, but looses relevance outside it. This way I think of 'purpose' and 'no purpose' not in contradiction, rather complimentary.
Hyperspace as a place outside {the conceptual frame where 'purpose' revels}.

Could be wrong

 

[AikyO]

Or maybe a conceptual frame is what the Universe, born out of Endless Eternity, is seeking. Or maybe he constantly experiments new forms of conceptual frame until he finds one that can break out of it, experience Eternity while still being conceptually framed. It's reaching out beyond stars above and below for a glimpse of himself, a blissful state he once knew, harmony. Like playing music he dances on the beat, the tensions, the breaks and the cartharsistic escalation, maybe the joy is in the flow of it all ...

Maybe the purepose of the Uniiverse is to l°Ö°se its mind ~*~