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In need of a good method for full mescaline extraction
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Read through the cacti section, there are teks from community members, links to outside teks, and a ton of information. As this is your project, the onus is on you to do the research. Read through the cacti forum and see what is there that suits your needs. Here, to get you started I grabbed the link for Phlux's Mescaline Extraction
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Kada said:
Pretty much every cleanup step that is known will cause a loss in yield. Recrystallization reduces yield, washing reduces yield, double A/B extractions reduce yield, etc. This is true for nearly all compounds. There's little you can do to avoid that.
For your first question, here's a place to start, Erowid's Mescaline Dose Information this shows at least two salts and their comparative weights. It shouldn't be hard to find more info by doing a simple google search.
As to your second question, it'd be possible to pull other alks, as with limo extraction on T. Peruvianus, but if you follow the cleaning/washing/re-xtal procedures I'd imagine you should wind up with just mescaline, if there was any in that species of cactus. I'm not 100% sure on this, it's just my thoughts, but someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
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As to your second question, it'd be possible to pull other alks, as with limo extraction on T. Peruvianus, but if you follow the cleaning/washing/re-xtal procedures I'd imagine you should wind up with just mescaline, if there was any in that species of cactus. I'm not 100% sure on this, it's just my thoughts, but someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
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If you want quantitative or qualitative data on what cacti contain what levels of what alkaloids bulk extraction is NOT the way to go. There are too many chances for error.
If you want to screen cacti use a simple extraction procedure and compare with TLC or some other chromatographic method SWIY has access too. There is publications in the literature for screening cacti with various methods. Many are outdated though I have not looked into recent papers on this topic. Maybe someone has developed a simple but modern TLC method.
Chloroform extracts a wide range of cactus alkaloids. SWIM has noticed that after removing all the mescaline + some impurities with HCl a bunch of different alkaloids remain in the chloroform layer. So if you want total alkaloid levels your not going to get them by making HCl crystals. Also acetone and IPA clean ups do remove some mescaline as we as major impurities in HCl extracts.
If you want to screen cacti use a simple extraction procedure and compare with TLC or some other chromatographic method SWIY has access too. There is publications in the literature for screening cacti with various methods. Many are outdated though I have not looked into recent papers on this topic. Maybe someone has developed a simple but modern TLC method.
Chloroform extracts a wide range of cactus alkaloids. SWIM has noticed that after removing all the mescaline + some impurities with HCl a bunch of different alkaloids remain in the chloroform layer. So if you want total alkaloid levels your not going to get them by making HCl crystals. Also acetone and IPA clean ups do remove some mescaline as we as major impurities in HCl extracts.
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