Inability to Remember

[didnof]

Hi all,

For those that aren't aware, I've only recently been initiated into the DMT parallel we all enjoy so much, and I'm pleased to report that I had my first breakthrough tonight, however my memory of what happened is annoyingly minimal. It was my largest dose so far at 32mg, but possibly more importantly the most efficient in terms of delivery and effectiveness of method.

Anyway, I got it all down in one, and at this moment, before I even exhaled I had the most ridiculous visuals going on, at this point I was shocked at how what I was seeing after 2 seconds was more than any other psychedlic experience I'd ever had. I then remember thinking that I just had to lie down while I had the chance. My next memory is deciding to lie down on my bed.... and the next thing I remember is the beginning of the end of the experience, and it was some sort of angel bringing me back, as it put me back I started feeling, and smelling things, and realising I was coming back into reality, and needless to say was disappointed to be leaving where I'd come from.

But annoyingly I have zero recollection of where I had been or what I had seen... however, for the next 5 minutes, as I lay there with intense visuals I had a total sensation of shock/amazement at what had happened, even though I couldn't remember it!

As far as remembering goes, does it take a while to start remembering experiences? Was the dose on the high side for someone new to the substance?

Any feedback would be much appreciated.

 

[oversoul1919]

What works for me, is to try to write down what you've just experienced, as soon as you return. I still remember the great deal of what happened as soon as I return, but not totally, just when I start coming back, right after I open my eyes, and become aware of myself and my surrounding.

 

[RAM]

Smoked DMT is a very fleeting experience that disappears almost immediately upon return, at least for me. Generally I don't fret about this; it's about the experience and lessons rather than the hard memories. However I am usually able to remember at least one "main" type entity or environment from most of my DMT excursions.

As oversoul said if you really want to remember more of it, writing your thoughts down or recording them as soon as you get back would be the best method. Also you could start to look into ayahuasca techniques that could lead to trips with a longer duration, from which you should be able to absorb and remember more.

 

[DeltaSpice]

I normally remember everything or at least quite a lot .
The other day smoking changa I had a ten minuet experience. Straight afterwards I was trying to remember what had happened for that 10 mins but it was a blank.
I then recalled a part where I was repeatedly demanding that the entity show itself to me. Which is not like me at all, I'm very polite but that's all I can recall.

I think you will have experiences where you remember and visa versa.

 

[Felnik]

You can learn how to remember most of it.
There are different flavors that you can learn to recognize .
Dose has a lot to do with what you can remember,
with too much you won't remember anything .
Sometimes less is more . Try dialing your dose back
If you want to remember. Try easing into the experience
rather than just blasting yourself into it .

 

[Swarupa]

I've found that i remember the details of my DMT trips in the follwing days/weeks, it's good to set aside some time to reflect on it and try to remember, it'll come

 

[○]

Anytime I smoke, I typically always have some sort of non-vocal, mellow, downtempo playing, and that has always meshed with the experience so well, that when I come out of it, even for months later, if I hear that song I can recollect most of the experience from that time.

The right music is powerful. There's something about music/sound that directly ties itself in with THAT.

 

[The Hermit]

Try harmalas

I find the speed slower, the lessons deeper, and the recall so much higher as a result. Can't imagine going back to not using them.

 

[Pile of cats]

I found over time I became better and better at taking information back with me and as Tatt mentioned, I also listen to ambient / downtempo music and re-listening to that music can bring back memories from hyperspace even several months down the line.

I also second the recommendation of harmalas, they're completely vital in my experiences.

 

[○]

Yesss, harmalas are a must 8)

 

[slewb]

ime DMT without harmalas is like ice cream without a cone... it will melt all over your brainfingers before you get a chance to savor it.

 

[Global]

But annoyingly I have zero recollection of where I had been or what I had seen... however, for the next 5 minutes, as I lay there with intense visuals I had a total sensation of shock/amazement at what had happened, even though I couldn't remember it!

As far as remembering goes, does it take a while to start remembering experiences? Was the dose on the high side for someone new to the substance?

Any feedback would be much appreciated.

I have a couple things to say:

#1
Get in the habit of pointing things out to yourself in the middle of the experience. If you see something you'd like to try and remember, give yourself the mental reminder then and there. If you can tell yourself (in your head) some of the details you see as you see them, you'll have a greater chance of remembering. Many of the memories get discarded because there is no verbal label that you attach to what you see in hyperspace. Having a label gives the search engine that is your memory, the key terms to look up.

#2
Music can help. Whether or not you should travel with music is an entire issue unto itself. Regardless, music can be a memory aid. If a poignant event coincides with a discernible point in the music, then that musical event can serve as a label (verbal or non-verbal) for memory retrieval.

#3
I found that the more I traveled, the better I got at remembering. Sometimes even without good verbal labels, I had simply encountered certain phenomena with such frequency that I had acquired a visual memory for them. They also came to be associated with certain emotions/sensations/sounds that may have helped the memory process as well. I think going hand in hand with traveling often, was that I would write often as well. As said above, getting into the habit of verbalizing your experiences will help your hyperspacial memory develop. By all means, take your time and your own pace when exploring hyperspace, but just know that it should get somewhat better with time.

#4
Lastly, sometimes I think we place too high of expectations on our memory as it typically functions. We remember much more of what we expect to experience versus what we actually experience. For example, when you remember your last trip for groceries, if you try to imagine what the items on the shelves looked like, the large bulk of your memory would be fabricated by things you expected to be, even getting vaguely specific as with the approximated location of soft drinks, fruits and vegetables, etc...Quite frankly, I just don't think that memory works as fantastically as we often generalize to ourselves. Unless you are in the small percentage of people with photographic eidetic memory, then you do not remember things as you saw them. If you did have photographic memory, you probably would not have made a thread lamenting about your inability to remember.

 

[didnof]

Hi all,

Thanks for all the useful info and advice and I'll definitely take it on board for my next journey at this weekend coming. I know I saw something that amazed as the sense of shock I had didn't come from just the entity that brought me back. I'll definitely give the writing down and music a try.

Ref the harmalas, I'd also like to give these a try and I understand the best way to get these is through extraction, do you simply mix the two together and smoke as usual?

 

[oversoul1919]

Hi all,

Thanks for all the useful info and advice and I'll definitely take it on board for my next journey at this weekend coming. I know I saw something that amazed as the sense of shock I had didn't come from just the entity that brought me back. I'll definitely give the writing down and music a try.

Ref the harmalas, I'd also like to give these a try and I understand the best way to get these is through extraction, do you simply mix the two together and smoke as usual?

If you intending on using oral harmalas, then you should smoalk about half and hour after ingestion. You will feel when harmalas start to kick in. I drank rue tea yesterday, and I just knew when the time is right. Although, I did pharma, not smoked.

 

[The Hermit]

For extract just smoke a little about 5 - 10 mins before. I personally usually take a little meditative time between harmalas and spice to clear my head and set my intention - it's quite a beautiful space in itself, you'll know when you're ready to go

 

[didnof]

Hi oversoul1919, I quite like the idea of having it in a tea actually, how easy is it to make the tea?

Am I going to need a concoction of ingredients bubbling away in a cauldron for days on end, or can you buy it in a ready to drink form?

 

[oversoul1919]

Hi oversoul1919, I quite like the idea of having it in a tea actually, how easy is it to make the tea?

Am I going to need a concoction of ingredients bubbling away in a cauldron for days on end, or can you buy it in a ready to drink form?

lol, very easy. Get some Syrian rue, grind up 2-3 grams of it, put in the water and cook for half an hour.

People complain about nausea, but I didn't experience any. It doesn't have a pleasant taste, though.

If you don't prefer Syrian rue due to those unpleasant effects, get some caapi. :thumb_up:

 

[didnof]

lol, very easy. Get some Syrian rue, grind up 2-3 grams of it, put in the water and cook for half an hour.

Excellent.

That's about the level of complexity I was hoping for

 

[starway6]

One could try oral nutropics to boost memory.. 30 minutes before smoking DMT ..

It could make a diference!