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Introducing people to DMT

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Deleriant

Deleriant

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After my experiences with LSD, I decided that I didn't want the responsibility that it would carry, however, I feel as though DMT is a world away from LSD.

I have introduced a few people to DMT. I'm talk about very low doses, the type that are just barely psychedelic. Mostly people who have had experience with other psychedelics, but also one person who had not. I have given her a few doses, the last one gave her a few closed eye visuals, but was definitely short of a breakthrough. This usually happened during the after party chill, in a semi-recreational environment. Everyone that I have shared this stuff with has enjoyed the experience immensely.

I was always very careful not to offer the stuff to people who I wasn't sure would enjoy/could handle the experience, but now I'm not sure that it is responsible to introduce anyone to this stuff, but at the same time I want to share it with people I care about, and people I think might gain something from the use of DMT.

What are your thoughts on this?
 
Personally, it's better to err on the side of caution. This stuff is by no means recreational and there is (after breakthrough) no turning back. Although I have introduced a few people, I realise now that my understanding of it is not enough for me to do so responsibly. I will not introduce anymore people to the molecule. I am even in two minds about a website like this and I wonder sometimes if it might not be better off on the dark web so that it finds people, and not people it.

Whatever you do, know that you are solely responsible and accountable for your actions.

Peace.
 
Well said, ghostman. I was surprised how easily I came across this place. Google would have you think that it's the same as any other forum out there, but the nexus is something else :)

I definitely agree that even at a low dose, a semi-recreational atmosphere is not conducive to the experiences that this substance has for us. It was silly of me to think that it was a good idea, but you know what they say...you live, you learn...though having said that, I still can't shake the feeling that this stuff is meant for more than just you or me, it's meant for everyone...tough decisions are tough.
 
It is difficult. I found it through my own path of interest. I had to learn about it, how to extract it, how to smoke it etc. I went through that alone and was responsible only to myself.

I discovered this wonderful community after I had done all of this and I was grateful for their input and willing ears and feedback. There are many people out there who think everyone should be given psychedelics and think that everyone deserves to taste the forbidden fruit of the tree of knowledge. I don't. I won't go into it, it's an old argument.

I'll put it this way, if I find anyone who thinks they understand this stuff, that they have it under control or think they have it mastered, I stay well fucking clear of them. They are the most dangerous of all and it is them who think it's their duty as keepers of the key of knowledge to teach everyone else a lesson.

Look after your own soul and if you do introduce someone, be willing to put your soul on the line that it's the right thing to do.

The power of this stuff is so awesome to me, it can literally make my blood run cold. I have a very deep respect and even fear for it.
 
Yeah, I respect and fear the stuff, too, even if I might joke about it at times. This is why, after doing my own extractions for over a year, I've had very little experience with it. After realising that I'd barely reached the cusp of a breakthrough dose, I decided that I didn't know enough about it to share it with other people, no matter how much I want to. When I say that it is meant for everyone, of course I don't mean to imply that I think everyone is ready for it. Unfortunately, the way our world is structured leaves very little room for people to find and explore their own spirituality.

Though, having said that, is it such a bad thing to introduce it to people the way I have in the past? I mean, if I had never taken my first dose at a bush doof, I never would have decided to explore the stuff more, and start my own extractions. I am definitely in two minds about it, though for the moment, I'm definitely going to wait until I've had more experience to introduce anyone else, or even share more with most people that I've already introduced to it.
 
I've only shared it with one person, and it feels like quite a responsibility - whatever happens to the guy, it's my responsibility, throughout his path, until he is done with it. I think it was the right thing to do on that occasion, but it is extremely unlikely I'd introduce it to anyone else.
 
I shared it with one person and she had a good pretty visual trip but didnt break through either. She had not smoked anything before so it she had trouble inhaling. I talk about DMT all the time to people and share my experiences but never has anyone that doesnt live with me be given my spice. I just wont do it. Part of the experience IMO is making it yourself.
 
Xstacy said:
Part of the experience IMO is making it yourself.
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This, I could agree with. Most everyone has the means to do their own extractions. I myself do it without the knowledge of my three housemates, using information from the tubes. I just wish I had the means to do it from local ingredients (ie acacia/wattle trees), so that I could enjoy a homegrown experience, though I'm also quite partial to the fact that what I'm using comes from the same place on earth that Amazonian shamans get theirs :)
 
Deleriant said:
though I'm also quite partial to the fact that what I'm using comes from the same place on earth that Amazonian shamans get theirs :)
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I feel the same way =)

I absolutely love the exotic yet pure feeling I get from MHRB, and it makes it 10x better to know that I'm also doing it while following shamanic tradition (at least for the most part, shamans rarely smoke spice though from what I've heard).
 
I've introduced 8 friends and 3 of them had a breakthrough experience. One will never be the same and had a very interesting extremely positive experience and now says he knows there's no death and life has a purpose :) He has had his share of difficulties through his life but he feels this experience has helped him understand his life and him self on a new level.
And he didn't believe in any God before but didn't deny God either. But now he says he knows God is a reality. God is a dimension in your existence :) He left my house afterwards, went home and prayed for the first time in his life :)

I'd say that was a positive encounter.
 
Dreamer introduced 3 people to smoked DMT, who all broke through. Two found it interesting and enjoyable, not sure how the girl thinks of it now because she only did it once, but the guy who did it a dozen times found it rewarding and has fond and profound memories, though he doesn't want to smoke it again. The third is a girl who decided never to do it again- she enjoyed 4 of 6 trips, but stopped after an uncomfortable experience on her 6th time. The experiences didn't seem to change her- she's the same morally questionable person and she still gets herself in a state on all sorts of drugs, sending me weird messages at silly o'clock about how she's messed up and should she drink orange juice, etc.

My sister wanted to try it but I didn't let her. Dreamer came round and brewed her some aya instead, and she had a wonderful healing session, talked about her problems and decided how to resolve them, and we are now closer because of it.

I'm not actually anti-vaped DMT, those are just observations from limited experience of Dreamer sharing the molecule with people who wouldn't be described as 'spiritual' types.

So many people tell Dreamer they want to try ayawaska, but he's reluctant to give it to people he isn't really close to in case they freak out or something. Sad but safe! I'm not sure if they're serious though anyway. He tells them to go to a shaman event, or research it on the internet at aya forums.
 
At one point I did share it with a very small number of people. I am glad I didn't share it with more.
There are times where i wish i never shared it with anyone. I am now at a deeper place with it and understand its power and it scares me sometimes. At one point i felt like everyone should experience it but i am feeling different now.

I am ultra careful with where when and how much. After an intense trip a while back I'm on a totally different page with spice now.

I will only do it under optimum conditions. I am adopting a careful shamanic approach to all my journeying now.

In my humble opinion this stuff is way too powerful to do under anything less than perfect conditions.
This stuff can bite you in your ass and leave a permanent mark if you get what i'm saying.

I see it as a tremendous resposibility that i now take very seriously. Sharing it with other people I now realize is very serious business.

If your going to do it just be careful of all factors, ask the person alot of questions, make sure the setting is right . If its not than nothing will be right.
teach them how to deep breath. talk about the duration of the trip. that simple information can save someone from having a total panic attack.
Stay nearby to help them through if need be. start with low doses work up.
 
You have to be careful introducing something like this to people even friends as you are taking their mental well being into your hands. Understand that you are giving to that person the most powerful experience most of them will ever know. 20+ years from that time they will still remember it for good or for ill. The one person I introduced the spice to told me afterward that I had changed her life more than anyone she had ever known. IMHO there are many people in this world that would be willing to take of this journey if given the opportunity but there are far fewer who should. I believe it is not the place of one to hold such power over another. It could easily be abused. One of the benefits of figuring it out for yourself is that you have to read and research what the experience is like for others and from that the individual can decide if it is wise for them to take this journey.
 
^^ that's true Vovin, but everyone gets introduced to it by someone else in one way or another, unless it came to you in a dream 😉

By posting advice, experiences, teks etc. we are effectively introducing it to anyone who cares to look at this site. They could have found this site through their own research, or it could be because they were searching for a pair of DMT branded shoes. (DMT shoes exist BTW)

I would say that teaching and introducing a friend you judge to be "ready" about DMT is perhaps more responsible than posting here, where any minor, mentally unsound or reckless person can learn from your experiences. Granted, you need to extract your own, but that is not exactly a difficult thing to do.

Because this site is remote from contact between contributors and readers, does that absolve us of responsibility? I'm not sure, but I think it's an interesting point.
 
I dunno, extracting your own may be easy but it takes time... it took Dreamer months to source materials and then perform the extraction. All the while, he was soaking up what was being said on here instead, so when it was time to smoke it, he was well aware of the enormity of what he was taking on, much more so than if a friend just gave him some.
 
After introducing a few people to spice, ive decided that il only do so if they are familiar and have researched what DMT is. Out of say 5 people, only one has pushed forward with working with the molecule, the rest of them are not interested/ready for what it has to show.

This is far to powerfull a substance to be just dosing people on.

I researched this molecule for many years before actually extacting and smoking it. And as oyahoco said, soaking up information all the time. Even then I was not prepared for what it showed me.
 
I've introduced a nine people to spice. Most had tripped before, others had not. None of them had a bad experience, in fact they all told me it was the most profound/powerful experience of their life.

Introducing people to it is something I pride myself in. I provide a stress-free environment and tell them only to take me up on my offer if they are completely sure they want to do it.

That being said... I'm not looking forward to giving one of my friends a bad trip. Seriously, that'd be rough!
 
I introduced around 8 people the first night after I finished my extraction and had all the smoking tools in order. All but one broke through. At that point, we were kind of winging it. The only thing I knew was to have quiet when someone was trying it. All but one person enjoyed it; the last person was terrified by its intensity but thought it was worthwhile. Since that time, I've introduced others, but in a more controlled setting where possible.

Now, after working with DMT a bit, I've realized that what I did wasn't necessarily wrong, but it was doing DMT a disservice. A one-and-done introduction isn't the way. Neither is a large group setting. I hope to have repeat sessions with those I've introduced during which we can break through several times so they can integrate something from their experiences.

I enjoy introducing others to DMT probably more than using it (which I also enjoy). But I have to do it right.
 
I've let most of my close friends try it, i think it's something everyone should try atleast once in their lives. I didn't give them a small dose either. I basically made them blast off in dmt hyperspace first time, they all loved every second of it. I don't really believe in small doses of dmt, if someone can't handle the full effects of dmt they really shouldn't be smoking small quantities of it anyways. I also have some very potent yet extremely euphoric jungle spice so it helps them really go far when it feels so good.
 
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