Is anyone exeriencing this?

[Madaload]

Hi, I understand why there are restrictions on posting for new members, but not everyone is interested in spending significant time here writing introduction essays. The question I want to ask contains just enough I want to reveal about myself.

I apologize if my approach irritates anyone, so feel free to delete this and ban me. Now to the point:

I'm having increasingly strange experiences on psychedelics an I wonder if anyone is experiencing anything similar.

The first time I used them it was 2g's of liberty cap mushroom. I took it alone in quiet darkness. This was the first and also the last time my visions were personal, apparently healing my one personal issue. A lot of good came from it.

However, my next two trips were completely unpersonal and revelatory concerning reality. Then I took part in a few Ayahuasca ceremonies. The first 4 or 5 were very spiritual and outright religious, but not in the popular sense of a personalized God.

Then I had some DMT and that was a game changer for me as far as physical reality is concerned. It was like there is another world existing alongside this one. I always entered in through my so called waiting room, and I always felt safe and welcome.

Then, participating in more Ayahuasca ceremonies and more DMT, my experiences became very stable and only slightly spiritual during the onset. But at peak I am always travelling through roughly the same space and there seem to be attempts at communication of some sort. Not on a spiritual level, but on a very real level, just like when someone calls you on the phone. The last megatrip on 3g's of lemon tek liberty caps (roughly equivalent to 6-7g's of cubensis strains in my subjective estimation), I got a breakthrough on the communication part. I was contacted very specifically. I was told music and lights were blocking the communication and as I tried to observe the situation and rationalize it as being just my imagination, "they" insisted it was real, and when I asked why should I believe them I got several 1 second flashes of a very technically looking pictogram. Every time "they" showed it to me I had zero doubt as to the reality of what was happening. It was as real as when you ask a question about something you don't fully understand and the answer explains it to you so clearly that you don't need any other explanation. It wasn't anything vague like a dream.

All of my psychedelic co-travellers keep having more or less the same experiences they've always had. They get horny, appreciative, and frankly ignorant of the experiences others are having. Like people in the 60s. Just get high, say nothing is real and therefore hedonism is the only way worth persuing. If I try to discuss my visions with them they tell me it's all spiritual and that I see it the way I do because I want to. I think they assume I'm subconsciously blocking their kind of experience.

I don't know why I don't have personal visions, except that I don't think I have any suppressed unresolved issues. I've also zero sexual thoughts on psychedelics. I'm not even trying to impose my views on anyone, just trying to make sense of what I experienced, but I always get attacked if I don't talk spiritual, all loving and non material.

Does this sound familiar to anyone? Is there a place where people discuss these things without prejudice?

 

[Jin]

So what was the message , what did you receive ?
What were they trying to communicate?

 

[bismillah]

Yes, and you're there!

Whether tripping for pleasure is valid or not is a personal question. Just let those people go their own way, and don't try to redpill them, so to speak. Odds are they will realize it for themselves. Maybe someone else will come along who understands it the way you do in the meantime.

 

[kneesocks]

Not on a spiritual level, but on a very real level, just like when someone calls you on the phone. The last megatrip on 3g's of lemon tek liberty caps (roughly equivalent to 6-7g's of cubensis strains in my subjective estimation), I got a breakthrough on the communication part. I was contacted very specifically. I was told music and lights were blocking the communication and as I tried to observe the situation and rationalize it as being just my imagination, "they" insisted it was real, and when I asked why should I believe them I got several 1 second flashes of a very technically looking pictogram. Every time "they" showed it to me I had zero doubt as to the reality of what was happening. It was as real as when you ask a question about something you don't fully understand and the answer explains it to you so clearly that you don't need any other explanation. It wasn't anything vague like a dream.

You seem to be a bit confused as to what spiritual means. Spiritual reality is just a form of non-physical reality that can be experienced. Your experience was indeed real.
You said it yourself, that there is another world alongside this one. That is the world of spirit and the immaterial.

 

[potnoble]

Hello

I think you have a valid point. However sometimes it is really cool to trip
and get lost in some music.
There are many ways to have beneficial life changing experiences.
What works for one person might be wrong to the next.

My last trip was in the dark with no music for the most part.
Lots of good stuff happend to me.
But the last two hours were spent dancing like a mad man around the house.

And one more thing: I have to absolutely disagree with your comment about the 60s or
about people having meaningless trips.
This might be your group of people but just read through the nexus.
There are many people here that do great work and not just get horny.
No offense.

Have a gud one

 

[ithaca]

For me, the most important thing to my enjoyment of both life and tripping has been to learn not to impose a narrative of what it should be. A trip doesn't need to follow a type or narrative, or it can, but if you just surrender to it, whatever it is, it's better. Life is just another trip, to be cliche about it.

 

[BobDobbs]

I can relate to some or even most of what you wrote although I put my own most recent strange experiences down to lack of practice (still throwing in different variables and giving more cause for inconsistent results), lack of deeply held personal intention and simply not being patient enough to wait for the right time and place to try to take off. This year has not made that easy! Regarding the spiritual dimension of life in general and psychedelic experiences specifically, I consider myself to be very lucky to have found a few (one in particular) very down to earth and articulate people that help me to keep joining the dots for myself. Hopefully one or both of us are promoted before too long and one can PM the other if you'd like a recommendation. Travel well!

 

[ithaca]

I can relate to some or even most of what you wrote although I put my own most recent strange experiences down to lack of practice (still throwing in different variables and giving more cause for inconsistent results), lack of deeply held personal intention and simply not being patient enough to wait for the right time and place to try to take off. This year has not made that easy! Regarding the spiritual dimension of life in general and psychedelic experiences specifically, I consider myself to be very lucky to have found a few (one in particular) very down to earth and articulate people that help me to keep joining the dots for myself. Hopefully one or both of us are promoted before too long and one can PM the other if you'd like a recommendation. Travel well!

right on, you too