is my bark still any good?

[BoDigga420]

Hey everybody, this is my first time posting here. I just attempted my first extraction, an a/b of acacia confusa. I had 500 grams boiling in 2000ml of water with 100ml of phosphoric acid over an electric stovetop. I foolishly left its side for about an hour, and when I came back all of the water had evaporated and the bark was smoking. i quickly added another liter of water to the pot, but i'm afraid that the damage has already been done. Do you think the bark is salvageable or has all the dmt been burnt up?

 

[BoDigga420]

if anyone takes the time to read this, thank you so much. i forgot to mention that in original post

 

[Professor Paradise]

Too much heat can damage sensitive compounds.

If it isn't burnt I would still proceed with the extraction, though your yield may not be as good.

 

[BoDigga420]

some of the bark was obviously destroyed as it was blackened and crispy but Im going to go on and cross my fingers. I'll post yield (if any) when I'm finished

 

[Professor Paradise]

I hope you don't end up with burnt compounds in your extract.

Good luck!

 

[Warrior]

You should still be able to do the extraction just fine. It may affect the crystals, but active compound is active compound. Maybe someone more familiar with the combustion products of the actives can chime in, but the products are most likely inert (hopefully).

 

[BoDigga420]

Thanks everyone! :d
I'm hoping only the bottom of the bark was burnt, I have to imagine that it couldn't have been burning for long as it was only about an hour from when I put it on the stove. most of it is still a nice red color as it should be

 

[Mister_Niles]

An unwatched pot..... catches on fire! I hope you learned from this experience, or you'll never cook a good risotto

 

[indydude19]

Were you able to tell if it was the bark smoking or just the last parts of solution boiling off?

I recently did an extraction where I did the same careless thing but I caught it in time to where the bark was still saturated and unburned. Just the last free reservoirs of solution were boiling away (though a negligible amount of bark burnt to the pot on the stoves hot spots).

I continued through the extraction and am currently seeing the beginnings on what I anticipate to be a nice yield based on the current formation and how freakishly cloudy the naphtha is on the first pull.

 

[BoDigga420]

indydude, the bark was definately smoking. the room was full of smoke that had a different smell to the acacia steam.

well, I did a pull and evaporated it due to lack of a cold freezer, and as I had feared the product is inactive

 

[Warrior]

Uhhh... You need a freezer to precipitate the final product. What were you planning to do without a freezer?

I would recommend planning better next time. It sounds like there were multiple things that went wrong but could have been avoided.

 

[Entheogenerator]

Uhhh... You need a freezer to precipitate the final product. What were you planning to do without a freezer?

I would recommend planning better next time. It sounds like there were multiple things that went wrong but could have been avoided.

Uhhh... Evaporation works every bit as well, although perhaps leaving a slightly more impure product... Evaporation was standard procedure in the days before freeze-precipitation. Please doing some additional research before taking a condescending tone with newcomers.

BoDigga420, I'm sorry to hear about the results. Unfortunately, one can expect to waste a little bit of bark in the process of learning hwo to extract. Next time, I would suggest starting with small batches of 100g or so. This way if something goes wrong, you've only wasted 100g; and working through 500g bark would give you the experience of 5 extractions rather than only one. Practice makes perfect!

 

[BoDigga420]

Uhhh... You need a freezer to precipitate the final product. What were you planning to do without a freezer?

I would recommend planning better next time. It sounds like there were multiple things that went wrong but could have been avoided.

You are absolutely correct. I made several foolish mistakes such as not watching the soup that could have prevented this from happening, but whats done is done. Now at least I am more comfortable with the procedure and the next extraction can go smoothly.

Entheogenerator, Im definitely going to take your advice next time. Thanks so much

 

[Warrior]

Uhhh... Evaporation works every bit as well, although perhaps leaving a slightly more impure product... Evaporation was standard procedure in the days before freeze-precipitation. Please doing some additional research before taking a condescending tone with newcomers.

Precipitate. Not evaporate.

 

[Warrior]

You are absolutely correct. I made several foolish mistakes such as not watching the soup that could have prevented this from happening, but whats done is done. Now at least I am more comfortable with the procedure and the next extraction can go smoothly.
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Yeah, we learn from trial and error. The important part is to learn from everything you try, and to develop skill of execution.

Best wishes to you!

 

[Entheogenerator]

Precipitate. Not evaporate.

Right, but BoDigga420 didn't say anything about precipitation. Your post implied there was no alternative to freeze-precipitation.

 

[TryptamineChampion]

Hey everybody, this is my first time posting here. I just attempted my first extraction, an a/b of acacia confusa. I had 500 grams boiling in 2000ml of water with 100ml of phosphoric acid over an electric stovetop. I foolishly left its side for about an hour, and when I came back all of the water had evaporated and the bark was smoking. i quickly added another liter of water to the pot, but i'm afraid that the damage has already been done. Do you think the bark is salvageable or has all the dmt been burnt up?

Y Not Try The Noman Tek? The Heat Is Gonna Destroy Everything

 

[Entheogenerator]

Y Not Try The Noman Tek? The Heat Is Gonna Destroy Everything

Heat will not destroy everything. Too much heat will break down the active alkaloids, but the right amount of heat will make an extraction much more thorough and efficient than it would be if it had been done at room temperature.

A/B extractions are also far more efficient than STB extractions like Noman's. In addition: many people, including myself, have tried STB extractions on Acacia confusa without having good results.

 

[halfhead]

This is a great question, I have almost done this... a couple times... so knowing if the next 8 hours is worth my time would be great information!

A question I would like to add is, if you are drawing the salt(dmt) from the bark to the acidified water, and you boil off all the water, does the salt stay in the mix or evaporate out?
If it DOES boil/evaporate out, then depending on bark quantity and time spent boiling, could give you an idea of how much dmt is lost, i would assume.

 

[3rdI]

the Magic wont evap at water boiling temps, if it did you wouldn't be able to reduce Aya brews.