Isopropyl resin vs. water (tea) resin?

[nicechrisman]

I'm curious to hear of others experiences with the differences. I've only tried the iso resin once, and was quite disappointed with the results. I've so far only tried a tea resin once as well, but had great results.

I find I ended up with a lot more volume of resin to consume with the tea resin compared to the iso resin, but as far as effect goes, it was night and day for me.

My most recent extraction (which I am just now finishing) was 120 grams dried peruvianus made into a water extracted resin. The ball of resin is bigger than a golf ball! I think this will grant me a truly visionary experience. It will take a while to ingest all of it though...roll it into little pill sized chunks and down it over the course of a couple hours along with some ginger tea.

What have you found to be the case? Do you prefer a water extracted resin, or an alcohol extracted resin?

 

[mew]

i prefer ethanol extracted resin, its more polar (it also has water further polarizing it) iso is something like half as polar as water and 2/3 as polar as ethanol. i like ethanol over ipa as its food safe. i find that a proper iso extraction is just as potent as any other extraction if performed properly (it takes more pulls).

on eating your resin, try to get it all down within a half hour, drink minimal liquid doing so (i swallow about 1cm diameter globs comfortably) dont drink liquids 2 hours prior or until 6 hours in. fast all day helps reduce nausea and increase effects.

considering the price of ethanol (151 rum) i go with water as it pretty much free, and its more polar (takes less pulls)
i like using the resin as an adhesive for potent cacti powder (such as the outter green flesh powder mixed homogenously with the resin made from cores)


as always sunset is the optimal time to dose, as youll have fasted all day and the night brings less interuption/distractions and the lack of light allows you to manifest your visions more clearly. also breaking fast at sunrise is great, i love some kiwis or clementines for this!

 

[nicechrisman]

That's gonna be a challenge getting all this down in said period of time. Especially with minimal liquids. Seriously, it's bigger than a golf ball.

I might have to look into doing a real extraction next time, I just hate to miss out on the full spectrum. I might just try decanting before reducing next time, so see if I can get anything to settle in the bottom to reduce volume. Is there any good in doing this when extracting from dried chunks rather than powder, or is the decanting really just to get all the plant solids out when using powder?

 

[christian]

That's gonna be a challenge getting all this down in said period of time. Especially with minimal liquids. Seriously, it's bigger than a golf ball.

A tea is fine, just pinch the nose and gulp it down, finish with oj juice slammer. DONE LIKE A MAN!!

I think it's all the same, you're gonna get some nauseau whatever, and it's a never gonna be a "easy" experience. Of course this is just my opinion.

 

[mew]

ive eaten a 35 g of cacti powder in 30 minutes, with 6 oz of calorie free liquid. this was enough to fill up my cupped hands. you can do it.

to refine your resin you can rehdrate it enough to make it a concentrated tea and put it in the fridge over night, decant away from the bottom and evap your new liquid


there is no painless way to ingest cacti, however i prefer the globs when eating it, they seem to be least offensive

 

[un-known-ome]

I am going to receive another 100 grams of san pedro powder shortly, and I am carefully considering the various ways of preparing it for oral dosing. Last time making tea was a success, but it tasted quite rancid, the consistency was brutal, and it was more difficult to make than it had to be. I have a few questions:

-What is the relative potency of Everclear soaking to other methods?
-Does the powder coagulate in the same way that it does when soaked in water?

 

[Guest]

69ron's D-Limonene Mescaline Extraction - DMT-Nexus Wiki

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I like 69Ron's tek. Im making some for a fest coming soon probably gonna sub in sodium hydroxide for calcium hydroxide and bring pH to 12. Extract with DCM but could probably use toluene or naptha. Pretty easy pure tek.

 

[Kash]

69ron's D-Limonene Mescaline Extraction - DMT-Nexus Wiki

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I like 69Ron's tek. Im making some for a fest coming soon probably gonna sub in sodium hydroxide for calcium hydroxide and bring pH to 12. Extract with DCM but could probably use toluene or naptha. Pretty easy pure tek.

Forgot to log in.. didnt realize I could post as a guest lol..

 

[The Day Tripper]

I am going to receive another 100 grams of san pedro powder shortly, and I am carefully considering the various ways of preparing it for oral dosing. Last time making tea was a success, but it tasted quite rancid, the consistency was brutal, and it was more difficult to make than it had to be. I have a few questions:

-What is the relative potency of Everclear soaking to other methods?
-Does the powder coagulate in the same way that it does when soaked in water?

Everclear should be right behind methanol, which is the best next to water.

Either will work great (etoh/meoh) especially if dry iirc. It won't swell at all like tea, no goop, penetrates cell walls, and its more polar(better solvent for mescaline salts) than isopropyl.

I've been contemplating on getting some denatured alcohol to try this with, hopefully with a bit of methanol and very little else as a denaturant. Or just use iso since it should work, just more solvent required.

Then if you take that resin and dissolve in slightly acidic hcl or vinegar water, and filter you get much less oils/fat/crap that alcohol pulls along with the phenethylamine salts that water doesn't. IE less polar crap. Evap that to get etoh/meoh residue free resin thats much more potent by weight than alcohol resin and easier to work with.

 

[mew]

69 rons tek can be done in 4 hours with all necessary cleans btw