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antrocles

Rising Star
OG Pioneer
i wrestled a shadow tonight. i will make all attempts to make this statement NOT sound like a crazy person is talking. although i will also take this time to mention that a lot of cubensis, caapi and DMT was involved...

our tale begins thus:

i've been feeling better about my recent batch of deep work, though there was still a bit of niggling confusion. i was thinking i might just take a break...still am....but at around 5pm i felt inspired to face whatever this residual funk was.

head on. :shock:

it began with popping 2 grams of our beloved caapi 20x extract straight down with a splash of grapefruit juice. i immediately got in my car and started driving north and east.

i have a batch of cubensis right now that are some of the most potent cubes i've ever come across. they look like mexican strain but they feel like azurescense to be honest. 1 humble gram of these little teachers will have you unable to walk during the peak of the experience. i can normally polish off an 1/8 and carry on like nothing ever happened..but these guys.....i'm just sayin...

i took 1.5 grams knowing full-well that this would be a SOLID conversation with the fungods. this was done in my car, halfway to the foothills of the sierra madre mountains...

got there just as i was "getting there". night was falling. hard. stars were already splashed across the sky. the world was already breathing as one.

checklist:

bundled up nice n' toasty? check.

loaded VG? check.

ready to rumble? double check.

a ravine up ahead cleft it's way between two summitless peaks. if the mountains had a crotch, i was gonna head straight up into it. "it'll either end up orgasmically good or shittily bad", i said out loud with a giggle. i enjoy black and white like that.

not another soul for lifetimes in any direction. whatever i would face would be my battle to rise to. i pulled my coat closed and started up into the thin black canyon...

the wall of the mountains on either side of me rose up past the limits of time and space. beyond my sight. beyond my mind. the walls of eternity funneling all that i was deeper into visionless void. i couldn't see more than 6 feet in front of my face. the ravine was maybe wide enough for 5 of me to walk shoulder to shoulder. if i came to an abrupt end, i would climb. i didn't think for a minute of how i would get back. i didn't think of anything other than the fact that i needed to keep going deeper until i reached a point where i simply could not go any further.

an hour later, i came to a sheer wall of granite. if i wanted to corner myself more completely, i would need divine guidance to show me how. i turned and lay my back against the immovable haunch of a great granite sentinel and looked back into blackness. ink blackness. an hour's worth of it. if fear were a shark, i had just thrown about a million gallons of chum into that mountain pass.

i stood and waited. i closed my eyes. i was so buried into this mountain, i could not even see the sky overhead.

turns out the mountain was female...i had to earn this re-birth. there was something in this womb with me, vying for the one life on offer.

fear.

i opened my eyes into blackness and immediately felt the gravity of what i had committed myself to. i felt fear on a scale that went beyond rational thought. it was primordial. it was the fear whose fingers shown for the briefest moment in my last deep ego-death DMT journey. it was fully present now. i felt it's breath on my neck and my heart began to race.

i started forward into an endless singularity. each step was slow as i felt for the ground's complexion. the mushrooms' potency was fully engaged and space and clarity was distorted. even perfect blackness became "cloudy", as if that were even possible. i made the decision to keep contact with one of the cliff walls as i walked. this somehow kept me feeling connected to something as i stumbled through blackness back to my beginning.

and then it happened. with a good 40 minutes left to the opening of the gorge, i felt a hand grab my shoulder and turn me around. both of my fists balled up instinctively and i let out the most primal, terrifying yell of any creature roaming the earth. i literally scared myself with what came out of me. and in that exact moment, it sunk in completely....the fear was inside me. it wasn't something outside of myself. it was IN me.

and here is where we start sounding a little crazy. in the blackest corridor of nothingness, i proceeded to have a battle with myself. i became a monster. i yelled with every atom of the universe. the most blood-chilliing screams from deep down in my balls. screams that echoed off the tight walls and back at me with the effect of 10,000 voices. i was surrounded by my own demons. nameless, faceless, no rationality whatsoever.

and all the while, a part of me trembled in absolute terror beneath this exorcism. i was possessed by my own fear. i was angered by it. my anger raged outward and my fear only grew.

"this is madness", i thought. "i am so angry that i feel this fear. i am so fucking angry!!" and a voice in my head softly whispered something i had heard only just recently in a deep DMT journey.

"surrender your need to want".

i instantly stopped yelling and said this one simple sentence plainly and calmly.

"surrender your need to want".

of course. my fear WANTS me to be angry. my anger WANTS me to be fearful. everything WANTS something from everything else so that IT CAN BE. wanting is what makes this density continue to be the classroom and not the heaven it really is. wanting is the root of all conditioned existence. wanting is what is needed to begin the game. in order for want to exist, SOMETHING has to want SOMETHING OTHER.

in that instant, the entire universe aligned itself inside a single atom that vibrated at the very center of my pineal gland. the very heart of all i was ever searching for.

like a man just realizing that the world was made out of chocolate, i pulled the very fabric of time and space into the smile that spread across my face. i didn't even blink. in one perfect motion, i simultaneously sat down on the moist canyon floor, brought my GVG up to my lips, deftly took my lighter out from my pocket and watched with a gleam in my eye as the torch illuminated the face of the dragon sitting across from me...

i did something i've never done before. i stood up with my eyes open and began to walk...though not completely "broken through", i was deeply in hyperspace and only just aware of any sense of self that existed. i genuinely felt like i had just put on a pair of "night-vision" goggles. prismatic grids filled my field of vision and a "skin" of shiny golds, greens and reds was stretched over it. this made up the basic shape of the once jet-black canyon that snaked before me.

note to self: DMT allows you to see in the dark. :shock:

for reasons beyond my human mind, i began to sing (not speak, but SING!) the Green Tara's Om Tare Tutare Ture Soha. i sang this with the gold-leafed voice of a god for the entire remainder of my journey out of the mountain's womb.

as the spice's control ebbed slightly, i found my thoughts beginning to manifest a green hue to the canyon. i felt as if at any moment, the Tara herself was about to reveal herself to me. like she was just "around the next corner"...even though there were no corners for the entirety of my corridor. i felt absolutley freed from fear...but not "rid" of fear. it was a part of me just as every other part of me is a part of me. i loved, accepted and embraced all of these "parts". i was everything. i AM everything.

i got back to my car nearly 3 hours after i had left it. the drive home was spent laughing uncontrollably and falling in love with everything i looked at for more than 3 seconds. i walked into my room 20 minutes ago and came straight to my computer to tap this out while it's still somewhat fresh. definitely the longest one yet and for those who made it through all of this, i tell you from the bottom of my heart that i appreciate the love and support of this community beyond anything.

this one made every struggle that came before it more than worthwhile. this one was huge.

WITH LOVE AND GRATITUDE!!
 
everything WANTS something from everything else so that IT CAN BE.

huh.

So you see a deeper, truer reality ( "the heaven it really is" ) behind this? What I found out is that there is nothing beyond that. I found this WANT to be a necessity for the world of experience to exist at all. There is a foundational pain that makes pleasure possible. But of course, I may be wrong (it would be nice if I were).
 
This from the Gospel of St Thomas, because I know you dig quotes and big felines:

"Blessed is the lion which becomes man when consumed by man;
and cursed is the man whom the lion consumes, and the lion becomes man"
 
This tale sends chills through my spine!

You're dissecting the nature of human consciousness to the core... is there an end to these deep levels of Fear and Want?
Wise to choose a setting in nature where you can yell and scream unrestricted, no fear of panicked neighbors calling the cops ;)

I hope you bundle your tales in a book one day Ant - guaranteed bestseller!
 
Success!!!
good to hear it went so well antrocles.
perfect setting for it too.
now that this shadow has been dealt with - is the break still in order ?
 
that was so damn good ant...that i had to read it out loud to my brother..he doesnt trip very often..but you wrote that so wonderfully i didnt want to be the only one to experience it


absolutely awesome....love the whole
 
woah...i have been thinking that i want to return to the mushrooms..have not had any since september..but i have this bag waiting for me in the freezer...

Great report ant..
 
Gee thanks for sharing a great experience , but in the real world you were pretty how shall I say stupid ?! Not only did you take a chance driving , counting on knowing when the drugs you took would reach their onset , but you ventured out where ? While stoned , by yourself ? These are the kinds of adventures that end up involving the search and rescue and possibly the Coroner . When adventures like this end up badly , the entire entho community suffers from the negative publicity that can result .

I don't mean to be hard on you Antrocles , but I have risked my life far too many times rescuing "extreme sport" enthusiasts who tend to check their brain out before heading off on a death defying feat , yours is right up there . Be safe when you venture and think it through before you imbibe .

namaste 8)
 
I go off into the bc woods alone all time tripping balls late at night...other people have told me i need to be careful..but..they..just arn't me..same with swimming on mushrooms and surfing..just cant help it..

I wont drive when tripping though.
 
noted. i knew very well the time frame i was working with and arrived while still very much able to drive. only the slightest sensation of "here comes the magic" was beginning to manifest as i stepped out of the mighty prius. within minutes of getting out of my car and moving around i began to officially go into my trance. risky? technically yes. however, if i had started truly tripping in any undeniable way whilest en route, i would most certainly have pulled over right then and there. as for the drive back, i was nearly four and a half hours into it and very much back and in control. almost more on point than normal....i'm sure any who work with mushrooms can attest to the unbelieveable mental alertness and clairty of mind that comes at the end of a mushroom journey. i am in no way condoning driving whilest in dialogue with entheogens. personally i find it neither cool nor enjoyable. if i made it sound like i was in anyway seriously messed up whilest behind the wheel i will set your mind at ease right now and tell that i wasn't.

i am honestly touched by your concern though. i know it comes from a place of love!

as for the venture into the abyss.....well....THAT may be a bit more open to criticism and i take it with love and gratitude again for your concern and kindness. i guess i'm just going to have to say that i just "knew" i was going to be alright. i also just "knew" that it was something i had to do. i had no idea what i was going to do when i originally headed out. i only knew that i wanted to go to the sierras and let the mushrooms teach me beneath the stars and away from a man-made environment. when i got there and saw that rift winding up into the tiger's cave, i simply had no choice but to follow the voice that was leading me. in the end, it could very well go down as the most empowering event of my life to date.

i do not simply brush off your concern and legitimate points deweeb. in truth, i might think the very same thing if i had read a report similar from someone else. i can only say that sometimes great risk is required to achieve great reward. this was risky to an almost foolhardy degree...

the reward reflects that completely. ;)

p.s. I FEEL AMAZING TODAY!!! SO ALIVE AND HAPPY! JUST DID A 3 HOUR HILLY TRAINING RIDE LIKE IT WAS NOTHING....CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT ELSE LIES IN STORE FOR ME... :D

phlux- interestingly, i DO actually feel like i may take a little break now. as i tell my training clients almost daily, "you don't get strong from training. you get strong from RECOVERING from training." i've done a boat-load of training....think i might let things "lock-in". a few days should do it...

LOVE AND GRATITUDE!!
 
"a few days should do it..."

:d hahaha..thats like me taking a break as well...so funny. I keep saying, oh il take a week off..maybe just aya once a week..yet i always find myself right back there ready to go like 3 days later..
 
I admit that I often walk at the start of my mushroom trips, because I don't like sitting around waiting. However, I know from past experience with the same batch how long it takes for the effects to get going. I leave as soon as I dose, and the route I take is exactly a 45 minute walk. The only thing that has ever concerned me about this is the final street I must cross right before I get back home. This takes concentration, because the trip is starting, however I've never felt like I had any close calls.

As for driving, I have my own policy that I will never drive after I have ingested mushrooms (or similar psychedelics) until the next day (i.e. after a full night's sleep).

elphologist
 
antrocles, really thanks for sharing this.
It's not only the experience itself, but the wonderful writing style you got that catch me completely. I usually don't read such long reports, but your was somewhat outstanding.

Also, interesting for me. I suffer of a deep fear, sometimes, when enter the psychedelic world, although I go there again, like a call. And I get panic by it, but the way you react, first the anger, than the annihilation of both in a deep yell, is a strong exemple of acting.
Although I guess you didn't consciously choose to, the istinct of liberate yourself by such a powerful gesture is touching me.


Good luck, share again =)
 
i wish i had a situation like yours where i could just go out into a isolated ravine by my self.
about the safety factor - in life there are hints, if you listen and notice that flow then at times like this - you just know, i always follow that feeling and never once in my whole life has it let me down - ever.(i feel this is part of living in harmony with the earth - and listening)
When i am at risk - i feel that i am at risk.
Many of my friends live their lives the same way.

I find Those break periods are just as important as the experiences themselves, taking the time to integrate and more - sometimes the true meaning of things takes time to sink in, sometimes one overlooks the important factors unknowingly, sometimes one finds themselves applying too much focus on an area that doesnt need it, neglecting something one is not even aware of at that time.

dunno what im trying to say here other than - but imo antrocles is not a random pedestrian, he was not at risk.
 
After reading your report I ponder the intrinsic duality of love and fear. As every psycho-naught who has touched the veil will attest fear is a barrier we encounter but conitnually attempt to evade. It is the bliss and awe of divinity that seems to catalyse our search for truth. But I wonder as I read your reports is it possible to ever truly be free of fear? As with the ying and yang there must be polar opposites for every experience in both consciousness and matter.

Can we ever transcend this hard wired instinctual meta-program routed in self preservation that is fear? Can we ever truely experience love without being able to understand its nature through comparison with its darker mirror... fear? Is it possible to be able to become experienced with this deep feeling of fear/terror? Perhaps there is reason that we are still wired with this reaction to the unknown?

Can we ever learn to use it?

Can fear be a tool?
 
timeloop said:
After reading your report I ponder the intrinsic duality of love and fear. As every psycho-naught who has touched the veil will attest fear is a barrier we encounter but conitnually attempt to evade. It is the bliss and awe of divinity that seems to catalyse our search for truth. But I wonder as I read your reports is it possible to ever truly be free of fear? As with the ying and yang there must be polar opposites for every experience in both consciousness and matter.

Can we ever transcend this hard wired instinctual meta-program routed in self preservation that is fear? Can we ever truely experience love without being able to understand its nature through comparison with its darker mirror... fear? Is it possible to be able to become experienced with this deep feeling of fear/terror? Perhaps there is reason that we are still wired with this reaction to the unknown?

Can we ever learn to use it?

Can fear be a tool?


all of the taoism i once held as absolute truth came back to me on this journey. this one truly rattled somethings loose that has been clinging on for many lifetimes. yin needs yang to beget the 10,000 things....love NEEDS fear to provide a platform on which it can stand juxtapozed. only in a sky of the darkest black can the stars shine the whitest.

on that most powerful of nights, i discovered that my journey is not to "get over" fear. it is to see it as part of a whole of all that is. to allow it to be. to accept and embrace ALL that is. not to SUPPORT it, per se...but to not try to get to a place where i can effectively deny it's existence. in fact, it is the 'wanting' to get over it that has caused me the most annoyance. i have minimal experience with fear and my first reaction to it is anger. like a dog (which i am), i immediately go into "fight" mode rather than "flight" mode. but either response is based on "wanting" to do something to be rid of it. the path that presented itself to me like light shining down from the heavens was to niether fight or flee...but to embrace.

fear is energy. energy cannot cease to be. i have become quite good at surrendering to what is so i have not had to truly experience fear like this in, well....ever. i feel like i am a miner and that i've been pulling gold out of my mine for a long time. this fear is gold you see. it is what we get to be challenged by, and by this we are given a golden opportunity to not overcome, but embrace and love it as part of ourselves.

i've had to dig for a long time in this lifetime to get to this little chunk of gold. there aren't too many left...and the ones that may be left will require me to do even more courageous actions than what i have done. selling everything i own, surrendering all that i have, facing fears in THIS physical world (money, security, love)...many of these will need to be done without the direct connection to entheogenic wisdom. only what i have been able to retain and apply from my past experiences...

this is a powerful time for me. a huge change is taking place in my life. i have never felt so connected to everything, yet at the same time so alone. i am not sad or afraid. i am simply surrendered to something that i invoked. something that i myself asked for.

ONE MORE TIME: TO ANY AND ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE VOICED YOUR CONCERNS TO ME EITHER VIA THIS THREAD OR VIA PM ABOUT MY DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE- i feel the love and concern and i just want to reiterate that i was VERY MUCH back from my journey when i headed back home. i had been gone for nearly 4 hours, then sat and ate in my car for at least another half hour before heading back. i do not condone, nor would i personally ever drive under the influence of anything. i don't drink and i won't even drive on cannibis. i'm truly sorry if my report gave that impression. after re-reading it, i can see how the "giggling like an idiot and falling in love with everything" might seem a bit suspect. but that was (and still is) from the EFFECT of my journey, not the CAUSE. i am truly truly sorry if i gave anyone any kind of unease or worry on the matter.

WITH LOVE AND GRATITUDE!!
 
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