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Joe Rogan good or bad?

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dragonrider said:
Yes, it is a form of tribalism. That's also why the strategy applied by cambridge analytics was so succesfull.

In many ways we still live in the "paradigm of the 60's", where there was a civil rights struggle going on that literally WAS as binary as black and white, male and female, etc.

Many people see todays struggles in the same light. People on the left say that their current struggle is the continuation of the struggle of the 60's, but many of the people on the right also refer to the 60's and say:"we are the countercultural movement of this generation".

I personally think this era is nothing like the 60's. It's more a fragmentization of society today, where people live in their own little bubbles and fight to be shielded from opinions that exist outside of these little bubbles, instead of good versus evil.
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Well said.

Reading this made me think of many cognitive biases that most are unaware of. Bandwagon effect is a big one that supports your point about everyone being in their own bubbles. Creates an echo chamber with the cognitive bias that stipulates "the more one hears something the more likely they are to think it's true," (sorry, I can't remember the name of that one right now), not to mention the many confirmation biases.

I am a "mixed race" individual, and personally, am sick of the polarization and tribalism that surrounds race. I don't care what race you are. I'm more interested in what's going on in your mind. Being predominantly "black" due to not fitting common stereotypes, have been told many times that I'm not black, or I'm "into white people stuff." People that have statements of the sort are a little too basic and naive for me to want to interact with, but I try to humbly and kindly show them the potential errors in thinking they may be committing. This type of thing also leaves me singled out often; I don't "fit" into black culture, so am treated differently by black people, and I'm not white, but because of how I speak, dress and think, am lumped in with them, but not actually , because I'm predominantly black.

I laugh at it all now.

Have even been called things like "Uncle Tom" despite my awareness and embrace of afro history (african descendant history the world over).

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I am a half-breed. When I was five years old, in the homeland of my mother (and she is something like local Indians), we visited the family of her sister, my aunt, then on my own skin faced the rejection of me as a half-breed from my brothers. .tam is very highly developedpurity of blood. they threw me into the forest (deep forest), but after wandering around here and there, I myself found the way without getting lost, and there was a place to get lost
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People have a lot of anger and are looking for objects to direct their anger at.

But nothing, NOTHİNG justifies cursing or belittling other people, individuals or anonymous groups.

The video that DFZ posted is trying to be informative and funny, but sorry, calling a person you dont know an idiot and asking people to be kind is paradoxical and ineffective.

We thought psychedelics were all about the realization that love is the most essential thing, what's going on here?

İt's not just a matter of abstract morals. You can't get your message across by spewing hatred at people who are candidates to receive and accept your message. You might as well just mass murder them all if you hate them so much and believe they are nothing but an obstacle to "fixing" the world.

Sorry, western civilization. You have some unrealistic views on reality. İt actually is not possible to achieve total control over humanity and the planet. Some things need to be surrendered to. Join a Yage ceremony and purge your mass ego.
 
Well, firstly i don't think john oliver speaks on behalf of western civilization as a whole. But secondly, i don't find the video to be that hatefull.

It does express outrage for sure. But, as we've already seen before, covid-19 has become an unnessecarily politicized topic. The occasional expression of outrage is an almost inavoidable consequence of that.

Outrage is a dimension of political and social communication in almost every civilization.
The BJP in india deploys the sentiment, as well as the FPR in rwanda, the AKP in turkey, the ANC in south africa, the DPP in taiwan, the jiyuminshuto party in japan, the CCP in china, etc.

Ultimately we'll all have to surrender ourselves to what the universe has planned for us. But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't "rage against the dying of the light". That is all part, and i would say intention, of being alive as well.
 
I used to listen to Joe Rogan; if only because I was interested in DMT, but his stupidity turned me off. This is not recent. It's been about two years now.

I remember when he interviewed Hamilton Morris. The contrast between their intellects couldn't be more obvious.
 
JKW said:
I used to listen to Joe Rogan; if only because I was interested in DMT, but his stupidity turned me off. This is not recent. It's been about two years now.

I remember when he interviewed Hamilton Morris. The contrast between their intellects couldn't be more obvious.
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I agree. He just had has Hamilton on again, and it seems to be getting worse. There are just points where I am really interested in what HM is saying and Joe is just unable to continue the conversation any further without turning it into a HM monologue, which is frustrating. But I try to not look down on him for his education being less than that of a chemist, director, and journalist. He has still helped me realize a lot of things about the way I communicate and the way I live. I just try to take him at face value. There is still value in small nuggets from time to time, but they are becoming fewer and far between.
 
For the love of god...

www.nbcnews.com

Joe Rogan criticized, mocked after saying straight white men are silenced by 'woke' culture

The 53-year-old former television personality ranted that straight white men would eventually no longer be "allowed to go outside."
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A good rule of thumb in my opinion (which is apropos as Joe Rogan's head looks exactly like one...) is that anyone who feels compelled to bitch about the plight and oppression of straight white men is seriously in need of historical context (as well as an ass beatin' and a bucket o' feces tossed in their smug, thumb-like faces).
 
Bill Cipher said:
For the love of god...

www.nbcnews.com

Joe Rogan criticized, mocked after saying straight white men are silenced by 'woke' culture

The 53-year-old former television personality ranted that straight white men would eventually no longer be "allowed to go outside."
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

A good rule of thumb in my opinion (which is apropos as Joe Rogan's head looks exactly like one...) is that anyone who feels compelled to bitch about the plight and oppression of straight white men is seriously in need of historical context (as well as an ass beatin' and a bucket o' feces tossed in their smug, thumb-like faces).
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Wow, boohoo Joe. 😂 That's just asinine.

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ColorfulElfBoy said:
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Ramma said:
admin, you couldn't even beat joe's ass in your dreams
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Not me, but I’d pay good money to watch a gay black or Islamic woman beat him up.
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So specific 🤣
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I vote for a gay, black, Islamic woman. Having had it pretty hard the world over, there's a lot of rage that could make for a good ass kicking lmao.

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Voidmatrix said:
I vote for a gay, black, Islamic woman. Having had it pretty hard the world over, there's a lot of rage that could make for a good ass kicking lmao.

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An exception to the rules is granted when agreeing with Bill Cipher.
 
RoundAbout said:
Voidmatrix said:
I vote for a gay, black, Islamic woman. Having had it pretty hard the world over, there's a lot of rage that could make for a good ass kicking lmao.

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An exception to the rules is granted when agreeing with Bill Cipher.
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Interesting...

Ramma said:
admin, you couldn't even beat joe's ass in your dreams
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And here...?

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Voidmatrix said:
RoundAbout said:
Voidmatrix said:
I vote for a gay, black, Islamic woman. Having had it pretty hard the world over, there's a lot of rage that could make for a good ass kicking lmao.

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An exception to the rules is granted when agreeing with Bill Cipher.
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Interesting...

Ramma said:
admin, you couldn't even beat joe's ass in your dreams
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And here...?

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This seems silly to explain. That is a criticism of the fantasy, Ramma is not wanting to watch anyone be beaten. You are voting on who should beat someone because they deserve it, and responding to someone who wants to watch.
 
Seems silly to have to enlighten you to the idea of humor, which is what my response was couched in along with societal observation. I can't speak for Bill, but doubt how serious he may have been in regards to Joe Rogan getting his ass beat.

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Voidmatrix said:
Seems silly to have to enlighten you to the idea of humor, which is what my response was couched in along with societal observation. I can't speak for Bill, but doubt how serious he may have been in regards to Joe Rogan getting his ass beat.

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Maybe I am cynical (about this) after the opening and closing of the politics subforum.

Bill has done a spectacular job of making a 3D model of a naked, charred Trump being spit roasted over coals. Detailed modelling of the blood smeared over the skewer after being impaled through his body. A swastika carved into his belly. Surrounded by statues of middle fingers pointed at his corpse. To be clear: this is easily available to view (currently, anyways).

I think there's reasonable chance Bill has a little hatred in his heart, and wouldn't mind seeing Joe be beaten.
 
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