Just got back from a wild one

[vegantoker]

Just got my mg scale in the mail so I weighed out 50mg loaded it up in my DMT bong Master Chief ( a 13" mainly green bong we got the day Halo 3 came out. If you were wondering) and after preparing myself I took 3 big hits held in the last one and layed down with my eyes closed. The mandala thing appeared and started coming towards me as usual but it felt oppressive and the colors were different, a dark yellow and black mostly. It felt very powerful and was not friendly. thinking about it now it was almost as if this mandala itself was an entity. wondering why I was in it's space.

Almost as soon as I realized I may have have gotten myself in a bad place I started singing aloud the tones I heard per Mr. McKenna's advice and very quickly ended up in the very weird but at the same time very familiar place. Picture the most beautiful blue sky you have ever seen and that was the background. I was suspended in the void watching and somewhat pertisapating in uh well... There were beings made of colorful light that was gathered together in spheres and lines in an L shape. We were on the edge of a floating marble looking building. I think it may have had pillers to the ceiling too but it seemed obvious that the structure wasn't really important anyways and it was the very first thing to leave the scene when I started coming down. Well before any other part in fact. They were pouring a substance that was much like themselfs between eachother. From the top of one L being into the base of the other. It was very ovious to me that they were getting alot of joy and having fun from this and so was I. I wonder now if they were having "sex"? Sure could have been a version of it. If so then those L shaped dudes got it pretty good!

As I came down I left whatever was just going on very slowly. Nothing specific really stands out from this part besides I remember saying aloud "OK, I guess I have a body." Which I think is funny. But I meant it at the time. When I opened my eyes my dog was looking at me like she just saw a ghost and I told her thank you because I got the distinct impression that she had helped me though it somehow. Maybe I'm just nuts, anyways. Thats about it, I felt way messed up for a wile longer but I'm down now. I love this stuff! What do you think?

 

[mad_banshee]

Maybe I'm just nuts, anyways. Thats about it, I felt way messed up for a wile longer but I'm down now. I love this stuff! What do you think?

I think I'll have to try to remember the idea of singing when needed as you did. Your trip doesn't sound strange to me at all. I love this stuff too, but from a distance. I would like it to last longer and also I would like it to be something I could do ten times a day, but then I'm glad its not because I think I could get consumed by it. As it stands, a few times a week use at the most is what it allows me to do.

 

[vegantoker]

Thanks for the comment. Yeah the singing/toning is really cool even when the trip is going great. You can change the visuals and everything using it.

I'm going to try a rue freebase I made to extend the trip tomorrow most likely. What's the recommended smoked dose of rue freebase and how long should you wait before smoking the spice?

 

[Espiridion]

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If you are smoking the rue extract start small and work your way up. Not only does it lengthen the time you are up, it can be a bit harsh mentally. It contains little to no THH(the favorite harmala of this psychonaut)

You could find yourself in a tough place. Sometimes the hard trips are the ones we need, though. All about your attitude.

Good report by the way. Thanks...


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[acolon_5]

50-75mgs of freebase rue extract should be plenty. As soon as you feel the extract working you are good to go, but don't wait too long.

 

[kungpow]

I have a bunch of rue sitting around the house and I have been thinking of using it to extend my experiences, but I know the dark side of rue. I have never had an easy experience with rue put in the equation. Rue seems to make things dark and really likes to kick me in the ass. I feel that if I take the rue for a dmt smoking session that it will do the same thing. I don't want to ruin the glory that is DMT. I have not broken through, but the sub breakthrough doses that I have had are amazing.

 

[vegantoker]

Do that many people really have bad trips with smoked freebase rue? Not really worth having a longer trip if it scares the shit out of me or something.

Would THH be a better substance to use to gain desired effects?
If so how do I search for that stuff? when I Google it only one site selling it comes up and it is back ordered. I can't believe only one place has it, what am I missing when searching? Thanks!

 

[West-en]

Can someone fill me up on the tones from McKenna? Interesting approach to bad feelings, and I sure want to learn that tune!

 

[kungpow]

Can someone fill me up on the tones from McKenna? Interesting approach to bad feelings, and I sure want to learn that tune!

me too :lol:

I have listened to and read lot of mckenna, but I don't really know what you guys are talking about a certain vocal tone that he can produce to stabilize an experience.

 

[vegantoker]

It's not really a specific tone. Rather simply vocally mimicking the tones you hear wile in the trip, that ringing sound you hear. It's just about matching the pitch so even just humming the tone works.

I wish I could tell you which McKenna recording I heard this on, but I have like 40-50 hours worth so it would be some serious work trying to find it :d

I think the reason this idea made an impression on me is because a similar technique can be used in a form of energy healing I've learned called Quantum Touch to change the intention or "flavor?" of the energy.

I tried it on my first DMT trip during the mandala pattern part. Mimicking the tones I heard changed the shape and color of the patterns I was watching in this stage very obviously.
If your interested you should try it on your next trip (during the sub breakthrough parts. I'm not sure how it works or even if you would remember to try during a breakthrough.) and let us know what it does for you. I would love to hear your experiences.

If you have any other questions about it I'll try to help enjoy!