Kambo, Changa then Iboga + Mushrooms - All in 10 Days.

[CosmicLion]

Hey Everyone...

So I've been looking for the "deep cleanse" for a while... I have finally settled on my option.

I am traveling very far away to a sacred high-energy nexus where I will consume purifying plants.

I plan on getting some henna around my Kambo markings beforehand, taking good pics and documenting the experiences in a journal then posting it all on here.

I'm always focusing on my diet for 3 weeks beforehand and will be doing a very basic cleansing dieta during the two week journey.

I will have exactly 2 weeks, here is the plan I was thinking. Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations regarding tolerance & interactions? Thanks a lot!

I was thinking this:

Day 0: Arrive and relax

Day 1: Sapo in morning. Light Ayahuasca at night.

Day 2: .4g Iboga in morning, .4g at night

Day 3: .8g Iboga in morning, .8g at night

Day 4: .8g Iboga in the morning, 6grams at night

Day 5-6: Rest for 2 days. Hike & Stay active.

Day 7: Sapo in morning. Medium Ayahuasca at night

Day 8-11: Rest for 4 days. Hike & Stay active.

Day 12: .4g Iboga in morning, .4g at night.

Day 13: 3g Iboga with 2.5g Mushrooms

Day 14: Rest and meditate with crystals. Play the didgeridoo.

What do you think???

 

[۩]

I think you are going to have the time of your life!

Don't be too hard on yourself if things don't go exactly on schedule, listen to your body and mind and do what feels right.

Let us know how it goes, CosmicLion. Bliss!

 

[jamie]

sounds like a plan.

 

[Purges]

Will there not be any cross tolerance?

 

[Kambogahuascanga]

Progenitor of the brave heart equanimity to eschew in the nuance of our longing. Maybe this is the destiny for such a road less traveled. In all honesty I am reluctant to mix the mother with the father within 3 days. But it might work just perfect. I see by your measurements and amounts that you have taken this into account already. My only experience mixing the two was an underestimation. I had been microdosing for a week with about 500mg twice a day of Iboga and then I took the day off of and had Kambo then Ayahuasca and it blew my top. It was far beyond what I expected.

The thing about Kambo is I don't know if science measures this...it is the most powerful catalyst on the face of the earth. Honestly I only now really like Ayahuasca when it is after Kambo. But especially having a little before Kambo and then 1/2 to a full after when I can stomach it. It is unlike any other journeys with the mother. Some how the Frog manifests in song.

Nice Frog Yoga posture, you will need that as you know...yoga is so quintessential when it comes to Kambo. Thanks for the encouragements. It is such a divine blessing when folks like you have a love for Kambo because it will be a boon for the world as you manifest your visions to assist and help. Kambo is this jewel of manifestation. But not like we think. It takes like 1-3 weeks for the actions to become realized. At first right after I find Kambo is more subtle but then you can even feel it in your eyes, the Kambo eyes, and the bravery and courage becomes more and more powerful.

I think overall it is a prestine and precise plan that shows how much you value the spirit of these entheogens. I am however not nearly as happy for you as I am for the world because of the benefits you will bring to us all. So it is somewhat selfish that I root you on and would like to even know when the journey will be so I can smile.

Enemas are very good before Kambo too, if for really deep cleanse like Guayusa enemas. And it makes the Sapo/Kambo far more powerful somehow. I think the Kambo really likes this respect shown to clear out the body first.

I am very fortunate to hear from you!!! Thanks for lifting my spirit!!!

 

[Dante]

You are going to have fun 8)

 

[NamRa]

I want to add a bit of a warning.

Very close to me there has been a case of somebody experiencing colliding energies resulting in a kind of "brain melt".
This person was doing daily small dosages of Iboga and during the ayahuasca sessions he had a rough time.

Iboga and Ayahuasca "dont always, do not" go very well together to put it mild.
Many times its advised to not use Ayahuasca for serveral weeks upp to a month after having had Iboga.
The given reason is that the energy of ayahuasca will disconnect the work the Iboga is still doing in the whole body.
But it does get worse than that.


Very recently there was also a case of a very experienced ayahuasca drinker that did a 7 days sessions with ayahusca and Iboga.
This was under guidance of a "shaman"/facilitator.
I have no details about dosages of either Iboga or Ayahuasca but the fact is that this woman is now in a mental institution.
She doessent even know who her children are. I dont have any updates about her situation. I hope she will get well soon and can join her family

I really think you should reconsider, this might not end in a right way.
You are taking quite a risk in my opinion.

 

[Kambogahuascanga]

While this is quite true and I would normally very much say that a person should not ever take Ayahuasca and Iboga within 3 days, by the dosages I think Cosmic Lion is taking this into account. If it were larger amounts of Iboga especially it would be best not to do, but the amounts are quite moderate. I would say not having Ayahuasca within 2 weeks of an Iboga flood. This case you referred to, I heard of as well, not much references to the case and obviously the person that directed the woman to do it had no idea what he/she was doing.

The only time Cosmic Lion has a medium amount of Aya, then takes 4 days of break. Leading me to believe he/she (sorry I don't want to assume either way) is well experienced and has a deep respect for these sacraments.

It should be ok. But I agree never mix much of Aya with Iboga. Like I said I had a bad experience or too strong of one when I was microdosing with Iboga and then had a heaping portion of Ayahuasca. But Cosmic Lion is showing much more caution.

Just adding in that bit.

 

[mew]

mew loves you

 

[CosmicLion]

And it begins....

Today is Day 1 of serious preparation. So far I have had nothing to eat today.

I have some mega potent Reishi tea on the stove right now, gotta have tp simmer those things for 4-8 hours since they are so tough.

Gonna be prepping the best I can for my journey.

Things have changed a little! My best friend of 6 years moved to India 3 years ago and got married. He is coming to the states in a week and is coming to see me during that trip. I couldn't say no, nor did I want to. This will cut into some of my time.

I am going to stay away from Ayahuasca during this voyage... I have never had a "strong" or particularly visionary Ayahuasca ceremony, despite the many times Ive taken it. I don't want to risk it or over do it. So I will have Changa instead.

Also, been doing MUCH more research on Kambo and I want to dive right into it. I also found a shamanic practitioner with Peruvian experience that might administer the Kambo to me! The main idea is not so much to have a Shaman as it is to have someone to actually apply it on for me, which seems like it could get difficult.

Here is the updated plan for 10 Days:

Day 1: Arrive in AM and setup camp & relax

Day 2: Kambo (5 Dots) alone in the morning. Meditation & light Changa at night.

Day 3-4: Rest for 2 days. Hike and Stay Active.

Day 5: Kambo (5 Dots) with Shaman. Meditation & heavy Changa mid day. Iboga .4g at night.

Day 6: .4g Iboga in the Morning, .8g Iboga at Night

Day 7: .8g Iboga in the Morning, 1.2g Iboga at Night

Day 8: 1.2g Iboga in the morning then 5.2g Iboga at night with 1.5g Mushrooms

Day 9: Rest - Try to stay partially active

Day 10: Travel home as a new me.

---Wait a Week--

Day 17: Eat 3-4g Mushrooms and Meditate to Integrate all the lessons.

That's the new plan!

I want to integrate Ayahuasca in after Day 17. I will be experimenting with different brews throughout the summer.

 

[CosmicLion]

Some thoughts:

Heavy Changa after 5 Kambo Dots sounds toooo good.

All together I will be eating 10g Iboga over 4 days. This is enough to reach my target flood goal of 10g.

More Iboga, less mushrooms. I was thinking the 5.2g Iboga would be a good flood-catalyst while the 1.5g Mushrooms will help integrate the experience better without making it much more chaotic.

All the Iboga dosages are given in .4g increments as 1 gelcap filled with Iboga Root powder usually holds right about .4g

 

[amazingino]

Good luck and safe trip!

 

[Kambogahuascanga]

Day 8 with the mush and 5.2 gr Iboga will likely feel like a flood especially if you have never had that much before. It is possible that you won't be able to be active the next day as you had planned. There is a good homeopathic remedy for motion sickness from Newton Homeopathics that really mitigates the ataxia. http://shop.robbinspetcare.com/newt....html?osCsid=0417ef8a1a2688a7743901bad19e9d14

I would say if you want to stay active to have the homeopathic remedy all throughout your 9 day journey. Also the Iboga (as you probably know) will accumulate in your system converting to noribogaine and it will get stronger and stronger so that day 8 will likely split your temples into a uniform structure, winkles.

Careful with combining changa and Iboga in any way (I can't recommend that and would advise against it). If you want to go visionary in the future with Ayahuasca a great dependable version that really works across the boards is Banisteriopsis Muricata at 50 gr per dose and Acacia Confusa which will depend on whether you are working with inner stem or root for dosage.

Good luck with the good luck

kamBRO

 

[CosmicLion]

Good advice!

I edited Day 5. I figured I would get the 7 Kambo Dots and later that day use the Changa. I would wait until that night, once the MAOI + DMT was out of my system, to ingest that first .4g Iboga microdose.

 

[CosmicLion]

Also, within 28 days of my 7 Kambo Dots I am going to do 9 Kambo dots as per tradition:

In the caboclo use, the basic treatment is three doses, at intervals of time that depend on the development level of the person with Kambô. The first treatment is over no longer then three months, with three increasing doses (e.g. 5, 7 and 9 points), with no more then 28 days between each dose, preferably of the new moons and last quarter.

Another interesting side note:

Then, after at least six months from the last application of the first treatment, you can make one second, now every 15 days, with minor increasing doses(for example: 3, 5 and 7). They also make treatments for 7 days (at any moon other than the full moon) and for 3 days, combined with dietary changes (no solids or salt) and the use of Ayahuasca. The important thing is that the maximum interval between the two applications is a moon, 28 days. "If it takes more time than that between a dose and another, the Kambô will have to work all it had worked before again."

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[Kambogahuascanga]

Here's what my Kambo doses have been like, after every comma is a different treatment...

4,5,5,5,5,7,7,7,7,7,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,11,11,11.

To have done it that way of 5 then 7 then 9 would have been somewhat unnecessary as it increases in strength each time. You will know when to increase your dose. Having it already in your head of how much you will do after your first treatment is IMO a bit too far looking ahead. I advise for going on how that first treatment treats you. If 5 destroys you (hopefully) then stay on 5 for 2 more times at least. Every time it will get stronger. Your first time will be your easiest ever as your cells only recognize it/process it at a bioavailability range of 50%. Second time 75% third time all the way at 100%. It only gets stronger from there.

You can also save Kambo this way. The way of Kambo is intuitive but if you try to use your mind or figure it out it will utterly annihilate you.

Hope this comes across as kind words rather than preaching,
Blessings kamBRO in unison of individuality, unity of cohesion.

 

[CosmicLion]

Hmmmm... seems like I may want to just stick to 5 and not go up from there.

If I want to stick with the tradition of using odd numbers, what do you think about doing 1 dot first to increase the recognition and further bio-availability for when I do it the second time a few days later with 5 dots?

:?

 

[Kambogahuascanga]

Interesting. But with Kambo I am an utter traditionalist so I would just start with 5 if I were you. Also of note the closer you get to the brachial vein the stronger it gets. If you want to purge out black crude oil and get the most extreme experience possible do it as close as possible or on the bracial vein on your shoulder. Warning though it is hardcore. I only said this because I remembered in the initial posting you seemed to be prioritizing a total cleanse. Optimal locations are on the accupuncture points i.e. meridians (thanks to Giovanni Lattanzi).

Applying 1 per dose is interesting and I have thought about microdosing every day for 1 week like that. Microdosing Kambo wouldn't that be interesting.

But like so many things it is open for discovery.

 

[CosmicLion]

So I should see an acupuncturist, get a basic balancing and also use some henna to mark out good points. I will do that.

Cool, final edit then... 5 Dots alone the first day. Then 5 a few days later with the shaman. Hopefully I can get the shaman guy to work-trade for some Sapo, that would make it feel pretty legit. He had never heard of it before.

 

[D.REYx420]

Good info kambo I've been very interested in kambo ever since I heard about it I can't wait tompartake in it sometime soon.