Lingering effects

[ChickenTikka]

I wondered if many people get persistent after effects, i know of the apparently rare persistent hallucination problem people can get, but for me its quite different.

The most amusing thing for me, that happened a few times over the two week following the experience.

Just to try and explain it, those times when your eyes are compelled to close, like when you're a bit tired/waking up, stretching, similar to yawning, it just kind of happens by itself.

Anyway during these times i had the windows BSOD flash up, unfortunately not long enough to read the error message.

Now without fail, every time i do this, i see a mosaic like pattern formed out of what would have otherwise been a visual snow type thing (which i've had for as long as i can remember)

It never lasts more than a fraction of a second, but definitely something i wasn't seeing before hand.

The other interesting thing i noticed is when trying to sleep it seems like my imagination is enhanced somewhat, i get what could be a mild pre sleep dream that almost becomes visual (with eyes closed), it starts off pretty relaxing interesting but ends up turning nasty. It takes nothing more than opening my eyes for a second to clear my head, and its worth me saying again how mild it is, but far more "visual" than your usual imagination.

The only other time i can recall something similar to the latter part was when i had taken kratom and was lying down and relaxing, i had this enhanced imagination (best way i can describe it), only it was exaggerated to the extent i forgot what i was simply thinking about and what had actually happened. In this instance i had imagined someone walked into my room, but took me a while to realise, and look to discover no one had.

 

[rjb]

Erowid documents a range of post-trip effects, check this out.

I was myself experiencing some late effects these days. One time I thought a little spider crossed my view, then the 2nd time, I experienced a little moment of space dilation (the view "warped" for just a fraction of a second). Both these events happened during intense moments of concentration (I was well focused on a thought, which was of totally different importance, unrelated to tripping or anything like that).

However, those were not scary, not for me, at least. Like you said, those moments are pretty amusing; I always feel presently surprised by those little things, they just seem to alter the whole course of the day. I've also noticed an increase of dream activity and recall since working with DMT and mushrooms; no bad dreams here, though.

Hope this helps. Peace,

 

[tele]

The other interesting thing i noticed is when trying to sleep it seems like my imagination is enhanced somewhat, i get what could be a mild pre sleep dream that almost becomes visual (with eyes closed), it starts off pretty relaxing interesting but ends up turning nasty. It takes nothing more than opening my eyes for a second to clear my head, and its worth me saying again how mild it is, but far more "visual" than your usual imagination.

Many people get "hallucinations" before falling asleep.

 

[ChickenTikka]

Indeed, but it is now of a different nature and intensity.

 

[۩]

Indeed, but it is now of a different nature and intensity.

DMT, what profound stuff.

I don't think you are the same person after using it. For how long? Depends on the person. Some people revert. Others are permanently convert.

 

[Ice House]

Reisdual or persistent effects from hyperspace are sort of, hmmmm, how should I say this? They are the cost of doing business so to speak.

Over the years I have had many different lingering effects. Some go away some dont. Some efeects you learn to live with and they just integrate and you for get that they are even an artifact of DMT use. Other effects are a constant reminder.

Welcome to DMT world!

 

[ChickenTikka]

I admit i was a bit surpised by these effects.

I am not at all bothered by it though. I'm no stranger to changes to my vision and perception, i have "suffered" from effects that could be linked to various substances long before i ever dreamt of taking anything.

If it is to be the cost of admission, its a small price to pay.

 

[majesticnature]

I would consider this the effects of now having an open 3rd eye. You are now experiencing your inter-dimensional nature. Believe it or not, there are many yous living in dimensions different from yours. An infinite amount to be more precise.

 

[Global]

If you look into the phenomena of flicker phosphenes and form constants, that information may help provide you with some answers. You mention how it's prevalent when you are compelled to close your eyes. I get this sometimes too, and the increased pressure on the eyes will very temporarily increase the intensity of the phosphenes. If I'm reading your story right, it looks like we're both in the same boat of sorts. Taking hallucinogens and especially with DMT where the visuals are especially prominent, you may begin to notice things that have been part of your experience since before taking any hallucinogens, but after seeing a certain amount of 'chaos' "under the microscope", your brain may start recognizing the order within the chaos as the patterns that it has been all along, but that you simply "learned" better. This phenomena is usually most intense for me when waking up, smoking cannabis, meditating or listening to music (most of which either involve having my eyes closed at the time, or having just had my eyes closed for a while).

 

[tele]

Believe it or not, there are many yous living in dimensions different from yours. An infinite amount to be more precise.

Prove it?

 

[ChickenTikka]

Believe it or not, there are many yous living in dimensions different from yours. An infinite amount to be more precise.

Its a nice idea, but i find the concept even harder to believe than the possibility of DMT literally taking us places.

Its indeed possible, but i doubt it massively.

 

[majesticnature]

Believe it or not, there are many yous living in dimensions different from yours. An infinite amount to be more precise.

Its a nice idea, but i find the concept even harder to believe than the possibility of DMT literally taking us places.

Its indeed possible, but i doubt it massively.

We are all entitled to our beliefs but consider this. In the realm of eternity all things exist.

 

[tele]

Believe it or not, there are many yous living in dimensions different from yours. An infinite amount to be more precise.

Its a nice idea, but i find the concept even harder to believe than the possibility of DMT literally taking us places.

Its indeed possible, but i doubt it massively.

We are all entitled to our beliefs but consider this. In the realm of eternity all things exist.

Yeah sure, but I don't think there is point saying something like "we live many lives at the same time" without actually having any base or fact for that. Equally I could say anything imaginable.
Sure we are all one and perfect etc. but lets keep things real so to speak.

 

[ChickenTikka]

I found most of the effects from my early experience went away completely.

From my later experiences i find that i have the mosaic patterns back as i described, but the most interesting thing is how it has affected my dreams.

A lot of the time dreams are senseless and seemingly random. Now all my dreams are very realistic and vivid, mostly involving friends, family, and variations of possible day to day events.

A dream about such things is not unusual, but being that it is consistent and limited in such a way following dmt experiences makes it interesting. I can say i'm quite enjoying it, and hope it stays this way for a good while, although i don't doubt it will start to fade soon enough.

Also for me at least, DMT really does enhance the imagination, prior to sleeping i've been able to visulise things and play games in my head in a way i have never been able to before, unfortunately this didn't last too long.

 

[oden]

imo.. its the shock of hyperspace

 

[Super Radical]

I was seeing the same kinds of things and I thought it was because of the DMT.
I honestly really enjoy it, the quilt patterns are pretty and the 'vision's are cool.

It could be some residual effect on the visual centers of the brain, but I have absolutely no idea.

 

[ChickenTikka]

DMT really does allow me* to visulise my imagination, i smoked a very small amount a while ago, not enough to send me anywhere, not enough for any defined closed eye visuals, something was going on but so vague i couldn't really make it out. After a while i was treated to this visual imagination, which i could almost command as i wished, but mostly saw things related to what i was doing and what was on my mind before i took the hit. Very different from the DMT experience, it was a vivid visulisation of my thoughts, that i could see without actually seeing like you would normally with DMT, i think it came on after the main effects (which were minimal due to the small dose) were due to start wearing off.


Its similar in a way to a very low dose of salvia which allows you to almost see things, although you cant actually see them, really hard to explain. While a low dose of dmt allows you to faintly see the experience, but you actually do see it.


* just realised i'm repeating myself here

 

[dontworryaboutgod]

Believe it or not, there are many yous living in dimensions different from yours. An infinite amount to be more precise.

Its a nice idea, but i find the concept even harder to believe than the possibility of DMT literally taking us places.

Its indeed possible, but i doubt it massively.

We are all entitled to our beliefs but consider this. In the realm of eternity all things exist.

Yeah sure, but I don't think there is point saying something like "we live many lives at the same time" without actually having any base or fact for that. Equally I could say anything imaginable.
Sure we are all one and perfect etc. but lets keep things real so to speak.

Is this different from the concept of 'multiverse'?
Multiverse, possibly a misnomer, predicts that there is a universe for each and every possibility (not just each and every choice). For each one of these there would be a differing 'you', therefore infinite renditions of self.

What is another plane or dimension? Could it not be another universe? What if it were another universe where the conditions were so different that it were unrecognisable to us (hyperspace?), or even that another 'you' doesn't even exist as any form of energy at all?
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[miyagi]

Hi all,
I have been actively exploring so to speak for many years(not so much with DMT though) and I have a random brain fart that may be such a lingering effect, maybe not. It's usually when I'm laying down, just getting ready for sleep when I get what is probably a minor epileptic fit! Not a real seizure but like an electrical spike in the brain, kind sounds like an old dial up modem kicking in but is only 1 or 2 blended tones that are acompanied by a mighty flash, even though it's dark and my eyes are closed, etc. This is something I joke about with my partner as being aliens scanning my brain and ripping off my good ideas. No that's not really what I think, but it is the best way I could describe it, like my brain has been scanned by a powerful instrument far away. Add to that it always comes after a day of good writing, a good idea, anything creative- which is probably a sign of the current high activity in my brain- or someone stealing my thoughts and putting my ideas on the shopping network!
Anyone know what I mean?