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awalmartbag

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So yesterday I tried the oral route for the first time.

Harmalas were extracted with a few A/B cycles, not too much cleanup. Stored in the fridge as aqueous citrate.

DMT was extracted using Limonene/FASW, without washing/re-basing the resulting jungle spice, so it may very well have been 1:1 fumaric acid/DMT fumarate, i.e. actual DMT dose may be much lower than listed. It is light orange in color.

I ate normally, had a bit of water and 2 energy drinks throughout the day beforehand (a mistake, as youll see...)

I took ~110mg harmalas (as citrate brew, diluted with water - slightly bitter taste, but quite tolerable) with 30mg crude spice.

Waited 30 mins. Very weak effects. Took another ~60mg harmalas and 20mg spice. Drank some Pepsi (phosphoric acid...).

Waited 20 mins. Some effects. Took another 20mg spice. More Pepsi.


Peak was about an hour after that, with minor visual effects and interesting mental sensations. Not dissimilar to a max dose mushroom gummies, but more intense, and with more clarity - so clearly this is still a light dose.

No throwing up or stomach issues. Lightheadedness. Coordination slightly impaired. All quite tolerable.

But after that initial hour, my heart rate and blood pressure went uncomfortably high, and my thoughts were racing, hands shaking a bit... I became very painfully aware of all the things I had done wrong and how fucked-up my life must seem from the outside. I also felt more empathetic towards some people, more able to see how they perceive my actions. The world seemed very dark.

So I went to bed, joined by the cat. My thoughts calmed over the following hours and the anxiety and despair receded, but my heart kept pumping. I thought about an ex-girlfriend a lot. I know now what she wanted me to say... I think.

Towards the end of the trip (~6 hours), a mild headache set in and persisted until the next day. I assume this is just due the blood pressure + dehydration + agitated emotional state.

Now, ~30 hours after the initial dose, I'm mostly back to normal. Just feeling a bit weak and hungover.


Obviously the caffeine was a bad idea. I'm thinking next time I'll try the same dose, all at once, with 1-2 shots of vodka instead, and plenty of water beforehand. Or maybe even phenibut?

Any other advice would be appreciated, if you have wisdom to share
 
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Hey awalmartbag!!

Why would you take Vodka and Phenibut, two depressants prior DMT administration?

I'm just a nobody, but by simple search I did, this is what I found about Phenibut, Alcohol and MAOI..

Combining phenibut and MAOIs (Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitors) is highly dangerous and strongly discouraged. Phenibut acts as a central nervous system depressant and can stimulate dopamine transmission. Mixing it with MAOIs can lead to a potentially fatal hypertensive crisis, severe respiratory depression, or acute serotonin toxicity.

Mixing vodka with Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitors (MAOIs) is highly dangerous and strongly discouraged. Because MAOIs impair your central nervous system's ability to metabolize certain compounds, this combination can lead to severe, life-threatening spikes in blood pressure known as a hypertensive crisis.

I'm not encouraging you ta take such a serious substance like DMT by any means, but at least, maybe you should search and learn what Jungle people (shamans) are saying about Ayahuasca diet prior administration. From my perspective it is a very important part of experience.

Stay safe and take care of yourself bud

Best regards 💝
 
Hey awalmartbag!!

Why would you take Vodka and Phenibut, two depressants prior DMT administration?

I'm just a nobody, but by simple search I did, this is what I found about Phenibut, Alcohol and MAOI..

Combining phenibut and MAOIs (Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitors) is highly dangerous and strongly discouraged. Phenibut acts as a central nervous system depressant and can stimulate dopamine transmission. Mixing it with MAOIs can lead to a potentially fatal hypertensive crisis, severe respiratory depression, or acute serotonin toxicity.

Mixing vodka with Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitors (MAOIs) is highly dangerous and strongly discouraged. Because MAOIs impair your central nervous system's ability to metabolize certain compounds, this combination can lead to severe, life-threatening spikes in blood pressure known as a hypertensive crisis.

I'm not encouraging you ta take such a serious substance like DMT by any means, but at least, maybe you should search and learn what Jungle people (shamans) are saying about Ayahuasca diet prior administration. From my perspective it is a very important part of experience.

Stay safe and take care of yourself bud

Best regards 💝
Where did you see that he took that?
 
Hey Sakkadelic!!

End of his post

"Obviously the caffeine was a bad idea. I'm thinking next time I'll try the same dose, all at once, with 1-2 shots of vodka instead, and plenty of water beforehand. Or maybe even phenibut?

Any other advice would be appreciated, if you have wisdom to share"

Best regards
 
Hey Sakkadelic!!

End of his post

"Obviously the caffeine was a bad idea. I'm thinking next time I'll try the same dose, all at once, with 1-2 shots of vodka instead, and plenty of water beforehand. Or maybe even phenibut?

Any other advice would be appreciated, if you have wisdom to share"

Best regards
Oh I see he's considering that, and yes it's a bad idea as you pointed out.
 
I'm not wise by any means, all i want to say, since folks are curious to experiment with such serious substance as DMT, maybe they should pay attention and give some more credit to guidance of Amazonian tribes and shamans, since those people are medicine pioneers🙏🏼

Best regards
 
Alcohol is drunk with ayahuasca traditionally in some instances…I’m not sure the combo would cause hypertension.,maybe lower blood pressure? I wouldn’t recommend it. It’s best to live healthy and avoid junk like Pepsi etc anyway if you want to prepare for oral DMT/harmalas.
 
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