Listening and Learning.

[DeDao]

So, I don't know how I will manage to do this; but, I will attempt to explain/talk about my feelings on a few things.

Recently, I am learning more and more how to let go with smoked DMT. With this ability I am getting more out of the same amount of DMT. There seems to be a distinct feeling I have when I know I am completely leaving. I would guess others would call it breaking through.

Either way, this area of trip has entities and is a theme park almost. Very jester-like attitude, the entities are jokesters essentially, from my point of view.

I have recently been confused on ways to smoke/dose and the like. I can smoke one amount one day and barely be altered for 1minute and another time I will smoke the same amount and enter this space of entities and infinite wonder.

I do not understand the difference in my smoking method/ amount ingested between these experiences. It is utterly bizarre.

This past time I smoked. I spoke with one of the entities.. I was wondering why sometimes I enter this place and why other times I don't..I actually had a reply..

Essentially the reply was that when I ingest DMT I am meeting them half way.(Them being the entities or the whole of hyperspace) In order for a breakthrough experience to occur, I need them to meet me half way also. It seems to be a door. I am taking the trail to the door but if the door keeper doesn't let me in, I am out of luck that time. Also, they made a joke about not being able to count which completely threw me into a spiral of laughter. I do not seem to be 100% in control of the breaking through experience.

This view may change with future experiences but I felt the need to make this thread to see if any one else had had similar experiences or feelings.

I hope I explained that well. Thanks for reading.

 

[friken]

Interesting concept/answer that 'they' need to meet you half way and that there is some sort of gatekeeper.

My first aya trip really felt that I was denied entry. The dose was stupidly large and I spent what felt like an eternity in a void of nothing, ego-less. Then a colorful place where I felt an unseen entity/gatekeeper. I wrote in my trip report:

A room of color and pattern. Not a room as we know it as there were no walls or bounds but the patterns made it feel more confining than the abyss. Still nothing to greet me. No one, nothing but broken, warped time. I am unsure why I use the word time as it had no real meaning where I was. My mind does not have the words and I find my brain picking words or concepts to describe it that were not there in the visual sense. For example this silent 'room of color' I can only describe as the Cheshire cat from alice in wonderland. It was not an entity, it had no visual construct but it was a master of the clock. It was the gatekeeper and I was found unworthy to go further

 

[DeDao]

Well I am glad you can relate to some of what was written. It seemed to make so much sense an hour ago :thumb_up:

Either way, interesting topic indeed.

 

[Global]

This past time I smoked. I spoke with one of the entities.. I was wondering why sometimes I enter this place and why other times I don't..I actually had a reply..

Essentially the reply was that when I ingest DMT I am meeting them half way.(Them being the entities or the whole of hyperspace) In order for a breakthrough experience to occur, I need them to meet me half way also. It seems to be a door. I am taking the trail to the door but if the door keeper doesn't let me in, I am out of luck that time. Also, they made a joke about not being able to count which completely threw me into a spiral of laughter. I do not seem to be 100% in control of the breaking through experience.

We need more people asking them good questions like "why is it only sometimes I get in this theme park?" They usually won't answer, but every now and again we get a piece of gold like this. Firstly, I'm a big fan of that theme park or castle or whatever it is. When I wind up there, it's satisfying already.

Secondly, I find it intriguing the answer that they gave you when they told you that they needed to meet you half way because this is in agreement with my personal experience. I've said it a couple times around here that I seem to get the furthest when I "align" myself with them before I've even closed my eyes. It seems to give them more "energy" to do their magical work in order to present grander, more audacious presentations.

Finally, the same thing happened to me in regards to how much DMT I need to smoke. As I've grown ever more comfortable with the experience, essentially having traveled more and more, I need less and less (within reason) material to go the same distance if not further. I attribute it in part to psychedelic neuroplasticity. That is to say, the more you use some of these neuronal connections, the more excitable and easy to reactivate they become.

 

[cubeananda]

Also, they made a joke about not being able to count which completely threw me into a spiral of laughter.

"Practice by counting. After a meditator has regulated his breath so that it is neither tight
nor loose, he should count slowly, from one to ten, either his inspiration or expiration, choosing
whichever he likes. He should fix his attention on this counting so that his mind will not wander
elsewhere. If before coming to the number ten, his mind suddenly thinks of something else, he
should turn it back and start counting again from one"

Do not multiply your words. More pleasing is silence
than hastiness of the tongue. More pleasing is sitting than doing a trivial errand. Do not be hasty
when you speak before your master. Do not run too fast, lest you wait. If you are about to say
something before your master, count on your hands up to ten.

The best act of worship is to count your breaths with Allah.

On the path, ‘awareness of number’ is not merely a matter of
keeping count; it is a matter of deepening the remembrance of the heart, within the framework of
counting

There's one more quote which is relevant both to the counting technique and to your thoughts on a breakthrough experience.

When your energy is delicate enough, and your virtue is powerful enough, the immortals will respond to you

 

[Infectedstyle]

When the entities are near, that's when the weird things happen. You know that voice that tells you "to smoke DMT"? Often times people report their most extraordinary experiences when they received the call to smoke DMT. This i believe, is due to the entities contacting you in sober life. Then as soon as the DMT is inhaled the entities propell a person into hypserspace, resulting in one hell of an experience.

I have had that alot, where i smoke some DMT but nothing happens. Things just look kind of warped. I think i will find my "un"conscious activity if i close my eyes at this point. But i suspect, with the right method i will be able to propell myself into a special kind of hyperspace. With practice. When the time is right. I haven't smoked that much yet (I'm kind of anxious). We can break-through on our own accord. And just to make my point more accurately vague, breaking-through without help from entities involves entities anyway..

 

[DeDao]

I am very pleased to find a lot of you perceiving it in a spiritual, non-physical/less scientific way. Sometimes I think science and logical thinking just can't make sense of these experiences.

 

[cubeananda]

I'm sure my opinion can't be publish in any journals, but there is for sure at least one higher realm in harmony with our own.

We also exist in lower realms at the same time as in this one. When we resist there's more of us in the lower realms.
Just like how rocks can't float, if we're resisting our energy is just stuck in a lower realm.

When we relax, that energy slowly floats up in little bubbles at a certain rate(like helium )Eventually after long periods of consciously aware relaxation, a buildup of energy can break through on its own. Moving into the upper realms.

DMT seems to provide the potential to pull tons of energy from the lower space up into the higher realms. But if we resist, or if there's a blockage, then that energy can't access the higher realms. The entities live off of this energy, so if they can't find it connected to you, they will be somewhere else.

Just my opinion :lol: