Literally "smoking" DMT

[Akasha224]

As in putting it in a pipe, lighting it on fire, and inhaling. From what I've been told (and read on here), vaporizing is the most effective way of ingesting DMT, but I've also heard other accounts of people simply smoking it and still getting the effects. If I decide to continue using DMT, I will eventually invest in a GVG, seeing as the general consensus is that its the best choice.

The only reason that I'm asking this question is because I'm a little nervous about the actual act of smoking DMT. I was in possession of a very small amount before, which I unfortunately squandered because I didn't "properly" vaporize it (I sandwiched it between herb and held the lighter above the pipe, but everything ended up just bubbling up and I inhaled smoke from a bunch of oregano).

I hope to not waste any more of this substance once I perform an extraction...would simply smoking it be a good idea for a first time user?

Thanks.

 

[Vodsel]

Be sure to check the DMT FAQ, it contains the basic answers and will save you a lot of time.

As long as you do not have a vaporizer, your best bet might be preparing enhanced leaf or changa, if you want to smoke it. Please refer to the FAQ for more info ^^^

 

[Flippo]

From what i've heard your not supposed to burn the DMT.
The smoke will be very harsh and you'll waste your spice.

 

[sovereign_silver]

Vodsel said it all, but i would like to add a great way to smoke it if you don't have a vape pipe or just don't want to vape it. The best thing I have heard and tried to mix with DMT plant-wise is egyptian blue lotus flower. You can put a little in a pipe or roll it up with the spice joint style.

Unlike other herbs blue lotus is exceptionally pleasant to smoke, allowing deep long drags. Alot of other plants can burn if done this way. Also when it is rolled up and after it is lit, there is no more direct contact with the flame, so it can vaporize much better than smoking it bowl-style, where the high flame heat contact can just ruin it.

Cheers,

SS

 

[Akasha224]

Vodsel said it all, but i would like to add a great way to smoke it if you don't have a vape pipe or just don't want to vape it. The best thing I have heard and tried to mix with DMT plant-wise is egyptian blue lotus flower. You can put a little in a pipe or roll it up with the spice joint style.

Unlike other herbs blue lotus is exceptionally pleasant to smoke, allowing deep long drags. Alot of other plants can burn if done this way. Also when it is rolled up and after it is lit, there is no more direct contact with the flame, so it can vaporize much better than smoking it bowl-style, where the high flame heat contact can just ruin it.

Cheers,

SS

How long does it take for the effects to come on if you smoke DMT in a joint? Would you blast off halfway through and have to snuff it out, or finish the whole thing? So far, this seems like the best idea as far as smoking DMT.

 

[sovereign_silver]

How long does it take for the effects to come on if you smoke DMT in a joint? Would you blast off halfway through and have to snuff it out, or finish the whole thing? So far, this seems like the best idea as far as smoking DMT.

Its important to remember that the body will build up a tolerance to the molecule VERY quickly, around 60 seconds or so. Any more after this time period is just wasteful, it wont bring you up farther, and wont make it last much longer at all.

When I have smoked Blue-Lotus DMT joints, there were 3 people and we passed it around very quickly. Taking huge tokes and passing it fast, holding it until you burst or it comes around again. It will be even better if you take a second toke without blowing out the first one. It was an amazing experience to have three people on the same journey at once, truly unique. We finished it and did not have to snuff it out.

If you cant get blue lotus just try and get a completely neutral herb.

SS

 

[Desire Meaningful Truth]

I've actually had great success with the sandwich method. It worked the first time.. you just might want to put in a little bit more leaf, and inhale more slowly.

A little warning though... The experience is more....... gravitational.
That's all I'm going to say.

 

[Akasha224]

I've actually had great success with the sandwich method. It worked the first time.. you just might want to put in a little bit more leaf, and inhale more slowly.

A little warning though... The experience is more....... gravitational.
That's all I'm going to say.

Gravitational? Sounds intriguing...when you did it, did you use a pipe or a bong? Also, roughly how high up and for how long did you hold a flame over the bowl for? I'm thinking that I must have gotten it too close when I tried, and that's why it didn't work.

 

[The Traveler]

A little warning though... The experience is more....... gravitational.
That's all I'm going to say.

What leaf are you talking about here?

And did you test this 'more gravitational' theory of you in a double blind test?

This is not meant as a personal attack but we have to be carefull with giving 'special effects' properties to things like more leaf and slow smoking while it can in fact easily be placebo.

Some things are logically different like adding another active substance to the mix that will alter the experience. But just adding more leaf makes me wonder about what leaf you are talking.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

 

[Enoon]

Its important to remember that the body will build up a tolerance to the molecule VERY quickly, around 60 seconds or so. Any more after this time period is just wasteful, it wont bring you up farther, and wont make it last much longer at all.

Is this really true? I seem to remember being able to blast off twice or three times in a row, repacking the GVG inbetween or sometimes I knew there was still more left over and it always seemed to *get me there*. I felt like the tolerance is either very low or if it builds up as quickly as you say so it also gets reduced just as quickly. Which means perhaps you are right, that when smoking a changa/ enhanced leaf joint you have to do it quickly...

 

[۩]

Definitely not true.

 

[Vodsel]

DMT builds no tolerance as you smoke or vaporize. There's simply a saturation point when further intake is simply not possible because you're far gone, but if you kept vaping subbreakthrough doses of 5mg every 20 seconds and after the fourth you vaped 30, I'm pretty sure that would take you farther.

How long does it take for the effects to come on if you smoke DMT in a joint? Would you blast off halfway through and have to snuff it out, or finish the whole thing? So far, this seems like the best idea as far as smoking DMT.

That might be the easiest idea, but personally I don't think it's the better idea. You see, DMT effects depend on concentration and have something akin to energy levels. It makes me think of an electron trying to jump an orbit up, it will only do so once it has enough energy available, and there will be no middle ground - either it jumps completely or stays where it is. I think you're better off smoking/vaporizing your decided dosage quickly... loading a little bowl of enhanced leaf in a bong and smoking it in one long rip will waste less spice than spreading it in a joint.

Unless you are after mild effects, that is.

 

[FractalObscurity]

when i first had DMT, before i used a bulb pipe(or meth pipe), i would roll it up in a joint with blue lotus flower, you definitely use alot more this way, but it tastes smooth and it had an 80% success rate for me, just dont roll the joint to big, and roll it loose so it burns quickly, and has good airflow. You want to be able to smoke the whole thing in 3-4 big hoots. I remember a couple years ago I wanted to share the experience with two of my friends so I rolled two little blue lotus joints with cardboard filters with like 60-70 mg of spice in each. We went outside by the river at night, sat down on a bench. I lit one took a fat haul and passed it, and then immediately lit the second one and passed it. We passed them around until the were gone and all three of us were flying! It was a very insane experience that they thanked me heavily for. They couldn't believe it! Neither could I haha, the experience gets better and better every time!! Also I recommend dmt joints outside, because you could drop a lit cherry in your ascent to hyperspace and possibly start a fire!

Added: your DMT joint should only be about 2/3 of a regular size rolling paper, maybe even a little less.

 

[AfroHorror]

Literally smoking.
I've had mine cherry inside a glass pipe... and that resulted in true smoke, since then i have a new pipe. There was a lot of buildup in the old one. I even caught my pipe on fire with wax, the invisible entities in my room seemed concerned which made me decide stop the journey. i regret that decision.

 

[Guyomech]

I've had mixed results with rolling it (DMJ). Each time it's been 30mg, sprinkled along the last 2/3 of an MJ doob. It's definitely nice for outdoors. But yes, mild compared to properly vaping it.

One problem is that parts of the joint might burn past the spice, wasting it entirely. You'll probably effectively vaporize about half of it. Secondly, your lungs are filling with herb smoke, so the ratio of contact with your lungs is much less for the DMT vapor.

Also, in the case of MJ, it will affect your recall of the trip pretty distinctly, especially after huffing a whole joint in short order. And if you're not a regular MJ user, the joint's effects even without the DMT will be pretty significant.

You do not effectively build any tolerance. That said, I've found that if I put down my DMJ to proceed with the trip, then pick it up again an re-light it during the peak, the resulting trip can be smeary and unorganized, almost like two trips happening on top of each other- like a dissasociative effect. Better to just choke it down quickly.

If using a standard pipe, try an ash sandwich. The lower layer of ash contains the spice and slows the drip of its melt; while the upper layer protects the crystal from the naked flame and prevents burning. Plus, you are only inhaling DMT vapor, no herb smoke. I've found this to work extremely well.

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

if you want to smoke it, just infuse it into herbs.

its still good to use low heat when smoking it (similar to smoking hash)