Lophophora species

[Gone-and-Back]

There are a few different Lophophora species out there, and I was looking around on a live plant suppliers site to see that there are many others besides Williamsii that were categorized as entheogens. Are these other cacti in the Lophophora family active? Cacti such as Lophophora decipiens, or Lophophora diffusa or fricci?

I have always heard of only Williamsii being the active one.

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

i hear diffusa is active, though it has no mescaline.

i have not heard anything about the activity of other lophs.

would be fun to grow them anyways

 

[Gone-and-Back]

If it has no mescaline in it, what alks make it active and is it even worth while?

 

[bub]

Pellotine, but not sure if this is worthwhile.

 

[Gone-and-Back]

What if you were to graph a diffusa onto a San Pedro? Would it start to produce mescaline like the cactus its attached too? Maybe it would start to produce more then the San Pedro, due to being a lophophora?

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

What if you were to graph a diffusa onto a San Pedro? Would it start to produce mescaline like the cactus its attached too? Maybe it would start to produce more then the San Pedro, due to being a lophophora?

i don't think it would produce any alkaloids it didn't prior to grafting.
i might be mistaken, though i doubt it (if its true, it is a great idea)

 

[Gone-and-Back]

What if you were to graph a diffusa onto a San Pedro? Would it start to produce mescaline like the cactus its attached too? Maybe it would start to produce more then the San Pedro, due to being a lophophora?

i don't think it would produce any alkaloids it didn't prior to grafting.
i might be mistaken, though i doubt it (if its true, it is a great idea)

I dont know if its true, this is just purely speculation on my part. Someone with the know how and accesability to such cacti should give this a shot and extract from the diffusa, seeing if mescaline is present.

Or has anyone done this previously?

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

i am pretty sure it is confirmed diffusa has no mescaline.

you could still do an alkaloid extraction on it if you wanted..

 

[joshisom]

here is a great info and trip report on diffusa Erowid Peyote Vault : Lophophora diffusa.

the other day i ate a 2.5 inch caespitosa defanatly active even at that small of a dose

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

the other day i ate a 2.5 inch caespitosa defanatly active even at that small of a dose

caespitosa is williamsii.

i bet diffusa would be a great compliment with mescaline (based on that erowid report).
so it would probably be worth grafting on a bridgesii or what have you just so you could eat the whole thing :twisted:

 

[joshisom]

i know it is williamsii but ther has been reports that they contain less alks