I want to start things off by saying, that I have been truly humbled by this experience. It completely exceeded my expectations. Somewhere in this "Bufotenine and 5-MeO-DMT" subforum, one member pointed out how Oroc referred to N,N as 'child's play' compared to 5-MeO with another member retorting in disbelief that N,N could look like child's play. As far as I'm concerned, Oroc's statement stands. This singular experience has entirely dwarfed on the scale of intensity any DMT (or DMT vaped on harmalas or at an aya peak) experience I've had, and there have been some pretty epically intense ones.
Ok, now bear with me as I go through this rundown leading into the experience. I want to make sure this is thoroughly documented so there is no confusion. I smoked around 5-7mg 5-MeO-DMT HCl, though I intend to freebase some in the future. I lent away my GVG to a friend, so all I had was my wooden VG, and I had no screens, ash or plant material, but I figured 'what the heck' and threw the tiny bit of 5-MeO on top of the single screen that comes with the VG. I figured if it melts into the neck, it'll probably just lessen the blow. So I'm a mere second away from activating my butane torch above the VG when all of a sudden I hear a loud yappy dog start barking, and I think, "you've gotta be kidding me." I wait a minute or so, and the dog stops, and I go to activate the butane...and of course it breaks. It's been more reliable than most butanes, but just as I go to vape 5-MeO for the first time, it busts. I wasn't about to let that stop me, so I decide to take the top part of the VG with the ceramic filter off, grab a bic, and pull down the flame the old fashioned way.
I took one very long inhale. The smoke was notably not harsh at all, and tasted a bit sweet actually. Now people around here have said that 5-MeO comes on even faster than N,N, and as I would read that, I would think, "how is that even possible?" For me N,N comes on within 5-7 seconds while holding the hit in...well let me tell you, they were right. It was a good 2-3 seconds that the sweet smoke was in my lungs, and all of a sudden I'm in the deep end of the pool. The aesthetic in the air is indicating an imminent breakthrough of the highest order. Taking that second hit was in no way ever seriously considered. So I put the pipe down, and things are starting fast, and I'm already losing my bearings.
Within instants my hands start going through automatic mudras, creating spirals near my temples. The amount of energy that flooded the room in such a short time was astounding. There were patterns and visuals, and they were a bit DMT-like but they weren't the main attraction in the slightest. They certainly didn't form anything representational at any point. It was more like a gigantic quilt or swath of patterns that just pervaded everything. They were holographic, and I was sort of bleeding into them. The tactile sensations were very difficult to cope with including bizarre boundary dissolution. It made sense to me when people talk about becoming a pattern on 5-MeO, and it's quite a different feeling than becoming the pattern on N,N. In the case of 5-MeO, it was much more physical and literal. So this is all within the first few seconds, and I can tell pretty quickly that I'm in over my head. I recall thinking right as I was going into the experience that, "I hope I don't run into any entities" but little did I realize that it's not entities that you have to fear with this stuff.
The sheer intensity was overwhelming, and I just couldn't let go and settle into it, so I spin around, open my laptop, and try to put on some music to get my bearings. I turn the music on, but at this point, I can now tell that purging is inevitable (should have listened to Pandora by having a puke bucket ready). I stand up, and make my expedient, well-practiced tryptamine-dash-to-the-toilet routine. It was sort of like diving headfirst into an aya purge, particularly one brought on by smoking too much DMT on an aya experience. It twists my intestines, and I hack up some bile, so now I have a knotted stomach, and a burning throat...and wouldn't you know that's when the euphoria starts kicking in.
I do my ecstatic, sluggish shuffle back to the seat in my room, and now I can enjoy the experience. It lasts a good deal longer than N,N. I'd say it was a good 20-30 minutes with a nice afterglow persisting for another 30 min. After returning from purging the euphoria was shooting through the roof. It was on par with returning from a white light encounter with the godhead with +++++ euphoria just flowing on and on. The patterns were still there, and as I closed my eyes I became enveloped in them, as the energy which was still flooding the room oscillated my body gyroscopically along odd angles and trajectories. It's a real treat to exist in that effortlessly connected state for such a duration of time. I opened my eyes, saw my guitar on my bed, decided to document the experience musically, and recorded a well-inspired jam. I was using these long swelling tones, and I was creating big warbling oscillations with vibrato and feedback, that mimicked the energetic state I was in. I capped it off with a triumphant, majestic ending as I was trying to express the royal divine euphoria that was flowing through me. I was pretty deeply intertwined in the 5-MeO state throughout the jam.
Next time, I intend to take it sublingually for hopefully a more gentle and all 'round enjoyable experience. The next time I smoke/vape it, it will also be in the freebase form. Now, I know my way around hyperspace, but I don't know just how much hundreds of N,N experiences prepared me for this. It truly is in a league of its own by dwarfing the intensity of any DMT breakthrough, and I've spent a fair amount of time in the upper echelon of hyperspace. I said it to start, and I'll say it to end: I am truly humbled.
Ok, now bear with me as I go through this rundown leading into the experience. I want to make sure this is thoroughly documented so there is no confusion. I smoked around 5-7mg 5-MeO-DMT HCl, though I intend to freebase some in the future. I lent away my GVG to a friend, so all I had was my wooden VG, and I had no screens, ash or plant material, but I figured 'what the heck' and threw the tiny bit of 5-MeO on top of the single screen that comes with the VG. I figured if it melts into the neck, it'll probably just lessen the blow. So I'm a mere second away from activating my butane torch above the VG when all of a sudden I hear a loud yappy dog start barking, and I think, "you've gotta be kidding me." I wait a minute or so, and the dog stops, and I go to activate the butane...and of course it breaks. It's been more reliable than most butanes, but just as I go to vape 5-MeO for the first time, it busts. I wasn't about to let that stop me, so I decide to take the top part of the VG with the ceramic filter off, grab a bic, and pull down the flame the old fashioned way.
I took one very long inhale. The smoke was notably not harsh at all, and tasted a bit sweet actually. Now people around here have said that 5-MeO comes on even faster than N,N, and as I would read that, I would think, "how is that even possible?" For me N,N comes on within 5-7 seconds while holding the hit in...well let me tell you, they were right. It was a good 2-3 seconds that the sweet smoke was in my lungs, and all of a sudden I'm in the deep end of the pool. The aesthetic in the air is indicating an imminent breakthrough of the highest order. Taking that second hit was in no way ever seriously considered. So I put the pipe down, and things are starting fast, and I'm already losing my bearings.
Within instants my hands start going through automatic mudras, creating spirals near my temples. The amount of energy that flooded the room in such a short time was astounding. There were patterns and visuals, and they were a bit DMT-like but they weren't the main attraction in the slightest. They certainly didn't form anything representational at any point. It was more like a gigantic quilt or swath of patterns that just pervaded everything. They were holographic, and I was sort of bleeding into them. The tactile sensations were very difficult to cope with including bizarre boundary dissolution. It made sense to me when people talk about becoming a pattern on 5-MeO, and it's quite a different feeling than becoming the pattern on N,N. In the case of 5-MeO, it was much more physical and literal. So this is all within the first few seconds, and I can tell pretty quickly that I'm in over my head. I recall thinking right as I was going into the experience that, "I hope I don't run into any entities" but little did I realize that it's not entities that you have to fear with this stuff.
The sheer intensity was overwhelming, and I just couldn't let go and settle into it, so I spin around, open my laptop, and try to put on some music to get my bearings. I turn the music on, but at this point, I can now tell that purging is inevitable (should have listened to Pandora by having a puke bucket ready). I stand up, and make my expedient, well-practiced tryptamine-dash-to-the-toilet routine. It was sort of like diving headfirst into an aya purge, particularly one brought on by smoking too much DMT on an aya experience. It twists my intestines, and I hack up some bile, so now I have a knotted stomach, and a burning throat...and wouldn't you know that's when the euphoria starts kicking in.
I do my ecstatic, sluggish shuffle back to the seat in my room, and now I can enjoy the experience. It lasts a good deal longer than N,N. I'd say it was a good 20-30 minutes with a nice afterglow persisting for another 30 min. After returning from purging the euphoria was shooting through the roof. It was on par with returning from a white light encounter with the godhead with +++++ euphoria just flowing on and on. The patterns were still there, and as I closed my eyes I became enveloped in them, as the energy which was still flooding the room oscillated my body gyroscopically along odd angles and trajectories. It's a real treat to exist in that effortlessly connected state for such a duration of time. I opened my eyes, saw my guitar on my bed, decided to document the experience musically, and recorded a well-inspired jam. I was using these long swelling tones, and I was creating big warbling oscillations with vibrato and feedback, that mimicked the energetic state I was in. I capped it off with a triumphant, majestic ending as I was trying to express the royal divine euphoria that was flowing through me. I was pretty deeply intertwined in the 5-MeO state throughout the jam.
Next time, I intend to take it sublingually for hopefully a more gentle and all 'round enjoyable experience. The next time I smoke/vape it, it will also be in the freebase form. Now, I know my way around hyperspace, but I don't know just how much hundreds of N,N experiences prepared me for this. It truly is in a league of its own by dwarfing the intensity of any DMT breakthrough, and I've spent a fair amount of time in the upper echelon of hyperspace. I said it to start, and I'll say it to end: I am truly humbled.
