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LSA half-extraction

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tigerstrike92

tigerstrike92

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Last time I extracted LSA down to a brown crystal, but it lost potency very rapidly. I'm assuming because I kept it in a small plastic baggie, and sometimes sunlight reached it. It is also known that LSA isn't the most stable of molecules.

So I was trying to think of a way to solve this problem. I could put extracted LSA into some alcohol and do liquid doses, but I don't really want to do the math for that.

Instead I thought this: I could just grind the seeds up into a powder, and do a few naptha washes, and make sure it completely dried, then consume the powder via gel cap. I would just have to weigh the powder as compared to the weight of a dose of seeds.

What do you guys think? Good/bad idea?
 
The answer there would be vacuum filtration.

Or perhaps a solvent other than naptha, but I don't know what specifically the OP is trying to remove.
 
From what I understand, the nausea that is caused by HBWR and other LSA containing seeds, is caused by non-polar chemicals. This is why a cold water extraction is commonly used, because it does not pull these unwanted chemicals, in theory.

The naptha washes would pull the unwanted, nausea causing chemicals from the HBWR powder, thereby leaving it gentle on the stomach. But since the LSA is still contained in the seed powder, since it is polar, it may have more protection from light and heat than it would on its own.
 
Well there are several factors to think about if you want to just leave the LSA as a defatted seed powder. Clearly this is a step above eating straight seeds and will reduce nausea but.. There will also be extra alkaloids in the seed powder that can affect the trip that possibly arent there with an extract. The LSA's will be better protected from oxidation in the seed powder but will still oxidize if poorly handled or *cough* put in a plastic bag.

Just make sure to put it in something air tight and keep it out of light when storing. Deffated powder is a huge improvement from raw seeds and naptha evaporates cleanly.
 
I just received a decent sized order of seeds, so I will be trying this fairly soon, and will report back with results.
 
Not yet no. I should have results by this weekend.

P.S. Can i get a confirmation that most of the negative side effects of HBWR come from the non-polar compounds?
 
Update:

I did three non-polar washes on 8g of HBWR seeds, then left them out until perfectly dry to make sure it was safe to consume.

I took the equivalent weight of 4 seeds, and my friend did 3. Both of us reported a great minimalization of stomach cramping / nausea, thought it was not a complete abscence.

Fairly similar trip as per usual with HBWR, but felt weaker then 4 would normally feel. Perhaps some of the ergines that contribute to the experience were stripped too. I will be trying a higher dose of weight equivalent to 8 seeds, and will update again. But so far, it is promising.
 
I found the NP wash helpful with HBMG at least; only I used an edible oil as the N.P. (I used Canola but sunflower, etc. work also) and proceeded with CWE.

Most clean feeling.

Risidual oil isn't the yummiest :p

Blessings.
 
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