made a STUPID decision and can use your help asap!!!

[The Gnome]

So I had crystal that was perfectly fine but had a slight smell of nap... it was folded in a piece of paper and I decided to stick it on on a heating pad to evap the remaining nap.... Well it evaporated everything and now the paper is saturated with deem goo!!! what do i do?!?? should I put the paper in naphtha again to re-x? This was SUCH a stupid mistake! Is there any way to salvage it?

I feel SO f-ing stupid right now you dont understand

 

[The Gnome]

ill probably be up all night refreshing this page in hopes that someone will be able to help me out of this mess

 

[DeMenTed]

Just put the paper back in some minimal solvent, say 20ml per gramme of dmt and see if it moves back into the solvent that way or create a solutiun of Naoh and put the paper in there and repull with clean naptha. I'd try just the naptha first though. That's what i would try. Maybe heating the naptha would help also. Hope you sort it out

 

[Crazyhorse]

Just vape it, I don't think the paper will burn at the temps DMT vaporizes at (115-150).

 

[DeMenTed]

Then you will be inhaling paper fumes, bad idea.

 

[Soy sauce]

I did something quite similar to this my very first time drying all those crystals I just got out. I ended up folding my filter over and over, and putting it under a book, thinking that would help it draw out the naptha quicker.

Goo.. Just like you. I didn't know what to do so I just dumped out the naptha I just pulled the crystals from, got it back up to room temp, and put the filter in it, open, and goo side down. I left that over night, and refroze it again, and got significantly less back.
Such a sad day.. I still ended up getting a decent amount in total though. So, I was happy.

I know this doesn't really help much, but, if you decide to do this, you'll know what to sort of expect. I'm sure other people have had this happen before too. And I know they'll know more than I do.
It's all still there, it's just not as accessable yet.:thumb_dow

 

[Crazyhorse]

Then you will be inhaling paper fumes, bad idea.

What, you never smoked a joint? It's not going to hurt anything.

Seriously, it takes very little heat to vaporize DMT. If the paper burns you are doing something wrong and would have burned your DMT anyway. Trying to exrtact it is just going to waste it.

 

[DeMenTed]

If it's joint paper then fine but it may be newspaper or hard paper or something. Would be a nightmare to measure doses also.

 

[obliguhl]

What, you never smoked a joint? Razz It's not going to hurt anything.

It really depends on the paper. Have you, for instance tried to burn regular white copier paper? I don't know what it is, but it does release something very toxic. I would not chance it and rather soak the paper in naptha to get the goodies back. Perhaps shredding the paper and then shaking the naptha would be even better. No need for lye, since your dmt is already a freebase and can be pulled by naptha just fine.

 

[anrchy]

Just vape it, I don't think the paper will burn at the temps DMT vaporizes at (115-150).

Make sure any advice you give someone is 100% safe. This is a bad idea. Not only do you not know exactly what kind of paper OP used, but your information isn't quite accurate. Due to the fact the paper is saturated, it's going to take more heat than usual in order for the DMT to properly vaporize.

ALSO, do you know with which method op uses to vaporize his DMT? Although I am assuming you don't, due to the fact OP now has DMT in a different form, paper DMT, if OP did follow your advise its possible he would attempt a different method for this new form of DMT.

Different kinds of paper contain different chemicals. Do not smoke paper.

 

[Crazyhorse]

Eh, to each their own I guess. I've used all kinds of things for rolling papers and I'm still here. Bible pages are espescially nice when you're traveling, thank god for the Gideons!

 

[anrchy]

Eh, to each their own I guess. I've used all kinds of things for rolling papers and I'm still here. Bible pages are espescially nice when you're traveling, thank god for the Gideons!

It's also forum rules to not give unsafe advice.


Safe and constructive drug talk

 

[Crazyhorse]

It's also forum rules to not give unsafe advice.

And that's as it should be. If I had any reason to think it was unsafe I wouldn't have advised it. As I said, since DMT has such a low vaporizing temp, I think he should be able to get it out without combusting the paper and breathing whatever might be in it. Could I be wrong? Sure. I haven't tried it. I'm just offering an opinion based on what I know of it. But if you know for certain it wouldn't work like I think it would, then great, that's helpful info, and all that needs to be said. There's no need to make it out like I'm intentionally trying to hurt the guy.

 

[anrchy]

I mean no offense, but you have to understand, you told him to "just Vape it" and that alone is bad advice. Smoking paper that isn't designed to be smoked is a bad idea, and we stress on this forum that people practice giving only sound advice. You don't have to take it personal, just know that if you give advice that COULD end up hurting someone, and no one that knows any better replies stating otherwise, we'll you get the point.

I'm sure that smoking a bit of paper probably wouldn't hurt. But we at the nexus don't do "probably".

 

[Crazyhorse]

I really don't want to argue but you seem to be missing my point. I never said he should smoke the paper. I said he should try to vaporize the DMT WITHOUT combusting the paper, by keeping the temp low enough for it not to burn. Either it works and the DMT is vaporized without the paper burning, or it doesn't work and nothing happens. If the paper gets "smoked", then it wasn't done the way I described. I only mentioned smoking joints as a joke when someone apparently misunderstood what I was saying.

 

[soulfood]

I really don't want to argue but you seem to be missing my point. I never said he should smoke the paper. I said he should vaporize the DMT WITHOUT combusting the paper. Either it works and the DMT is vaporized without the paper burning, or it doesn't work and nothing happens. If the paper gets "smoked", then it wasn't done the way I described. I only mentioned smoking joints as a joke when someone apparently misunderstood what I was saying.

May main quarrel would be.with applying heat to a piece of paper containing a possibly extreme dose of DMT. I.don't believe it would be easy to deliver anything less than a monster dose using this method.

 

[Crazyhorse]

May main quarrel would be.with applying heat to a piece of paper containing a possibly extreme dose of DMT. I.don't believe it would be easy to deliver anything less than a monster dose using this method.

And that's actually a good point. When I first saw this post I read it as "I had *A* crystal on some paper", which I took to mean a very small amount, like one of those big chunky recrystalized crystals I've only seen pictures of. But rereading it he actually doesnt say how much just "I had crystal", so that's my bad. If it was like a whole extraction or something then yeah trying to recover it with solvent makes more sense regardless of the whole paper smoking fuss.

 

[Infundibulum]

I really don't want to argue but you seem to be missing my point. I never said he should smoke the paper. I said he should try to vaporize the DMT WITHOUT combusting the paper, by keeping the temp low enough for it not to burn. Either it works and the DMT is vaporized without the paper burning, or it doesn't work and nothing happens. If the paper gets "smoked", then it wasn't done the way I described. I only mentioned smoking joints as a joke when someone apparently misunderstood what I was saying.

Crazyhorse, there is no way you can argue like this, so please do not continue.

You have already been presented with two good arguments to which you have given no answers; first is about dosage when vaping the spice-laden paper and the second is about vaping a paper of of unknown origin (is it rice smoking paper? is it ink-laden gideon's bible? is it some other paper treated with what-ever, including chemicals that also vaporise at around the dmt vaporisation range?). There is no way you can convince us that what you propose is the safe enough.

ill probably be up all night refreshing this page in hopes that someone will be able to help me out of this mess

What's with this impatience? your dmt isn't going anywhere; it was once inside a plant and you managed to take it out, right? Now its' inside paper and you also have to take it out.

 

[Crazyhorse]

You have already been presented with two good arguments to which you have given no answers; first is about dosage when vaping the spice-laden paper

Please see my previous post. I'll assume you just didn't have a chance to read it prior to starting your response.

I did not come here for an argument. As a mater of fact, I despise arguments, and avoid them whenever I can. I was honestly only trying to help, and offering an opinion. As I stated earlier in the thread, I recognize I could always be wrong. I'm not claiming to be any kind of expert. I just wanted to make sure it was clear I was talking about vaporizing, not smoking, as it seemed like I was being misunderstood.

But regardless of whether heating paper without combusing it would release anything dangerous, The amount of crystal we are talking about was totally MY misunderstanding, and I apologize for that. If I'd understood the original post correctly, I wouldn't have had anything to say in the first place. I'm sure Gnome isn't going to do anything dangerous, so at this point continuing to tell me how wrong I am would just be beating a dead Crazyhorse. :roll:

So no harm done, and no hard feelings as far as I'm concerned. I made a simple mistake and hope it won't be held against me.

 

[Infundibulum]

You have already been presented with two good arguments to which you have given no answers; first is about dosage when vaping the spice-laden paper

Please see my previous post. I'll assume you just didn't have a chance to read it prior to starting your response.

Yup, that be the case! thanks for your replies and clearing the issue.