Master Toad

[a1pha]

If this has already been addressed, forgive.

Can any of the Enlightened Souls here provide references to suppliers of the Master Toad?

I've seen them listed on BBB and I hesitate with a $125.00 price tag.

Moreover, having some care for the well-being of this animal I would like to find a pair.

I don't mate well with toads (even ones with dreamy eyes).

=)

 

[psychedeliack]

According to this site im not an Enlightened Soul but Ill give it a go...lol...
Honestly, I feel very weary about caging or shipping a live animal (any live animal) especially one that contains such profound properties. It seems a little disrespectful in my eyes, but perhaps that is just me. To each his own I suppose.

I dont know how far you are from the Sonoran desert, but if you ever find yourself out here during the months of june and july (monsoon season), send me a PM and I'll happily inform you of many spots abundant with the Alvarius.

My concerns with BBB is how they grow their Alvarius. What I mean is, that this toad stays in suspension beneath the earth %80 of the time and only comes out during the monsoons. Although it may not kill them to drastically alter their habitat and hibernation, I find it to be detrimental to the toads well being. My hopes are that they are breeding them from tadpole in order to insure that they are acclimated to being out all year, as well as being catged or confined to smaller non indigenous areas. If I ever keep an Alvarius, it is only ones that have been bred from tadpole and raised in a large yard with a pond and their native plants and insects so they may further breed.

The potency of the venom varies widely with these toads, I have smoked plenty of venom from wild toads, and almost as much from captive ones, and I can attest to this, that the wild toads provide more potent venom overall. This makes sense, because in captivity, I assume the toad doesnt feel as threatened and perhaps this is why the lack of more potent venom. Then again, it could all have been hit and miss. ☼ The captive toad batches I have tried, were small mix batches, just meaning the venom only came from three toads versus 6-25+. Mind you, the best toad venom Ive ever smoked came from only 4 wild toads, so it varies, but in my experience, the scope of difference is emense.

As for buying a single or even just a pair, you might get lucky and get a pair that produces some potent stuff, but the best way to get the most out of toad venom, is to milk from (at least 4) several healthy specimens and mix the batch to get a consitant potency all throughout. Down here we have groups of folks that collect with us, at the end of the season we combine them all and then redistribute, it makes for a VERY productive and VERY potent batch in the end, not to mention the eternal bonds created oin the toad journeys within the webs of toad practicioners.

Finding and consorting with the toad, asking for the opportunity to milk, forming a true communicative relationship, is a very sacred task, and if youve been to the toad space, you may feel the same. The process itself is deeply enlightening, especially when you have seen. So do what you gotta do, or what you feel is appropriate, but if you do find yourself in this neck of the woods, I assure you, you will not be displeased in the slightest.:d

 

[a1pha]

According to this site im not an Enlightened Soul but Ill give it a go...lol...
Honestly, I feel very weary about caging or shipping a live animal (any live animal) especially one that contains such profound properties. It seems a little disrespectful in my eyes, but perhaps that is just me. To each his own I suppose.

I dont know how far you are from the Sonoran desert, but if you ever find yourself out here during the months of june and july (monsoon season), send me a PM and I'll happily take you to many spots abundant with the Alvarius.

Interesting point because this was my deep feeling. I almost added to my post thoughts of going out and trying to find one myself, but thought this laughable. This would be, by far, my preferred method of obtaining a toad. After clicking on BBB's toad section, my gut just didn't feel right -- and the main lesson of late is listen to my gut.

I would be honored to have someone who knows what they're doing help me find my toad. Thanks again for your help and I will eagerly await monsoon!

PS I'm certainly close enough to make a weekend trip out of it!

 

[Big Inhale]

My opinion about buying toads is do it .You propably will take better care of it than some stupid company. I ts like the petsore in the mall. I can take better care of those animals thean they do. What happens at night when the store is closed. Must be awfully lonely and dark.Save the toads buy one.

 

[SoCal]

your heart is in the right place big inhale, but in purchasing captive toads it creates demand for more captive toads to be sold. same story with buying pets from a pet store. That said, hopefully BBB takes better care of their toads than your every day run of the mill pet store does. I suspect BBB probably operates from a higher standard of ethics.

By the way, where can I learn more about the psychedelic usages and effects of these toads?

 

[Phlux-]

use cebil - leave the froggies alone.
most ppl that own a toad only ever smoke the venom once.
for bufotinene to be nice it must be pure - or at least thats what iv read.

 

[HappyCamper]

Let's not get all treehugger about this. Buy it, just don't abuse it. What's wrong with toad venom? 5meo and bufo seem like a good combo

 

[psychedeliack]

your heart is in the right place big inhale, but in purchasing captive toads it creates demand for more captive toads to be sold. same story with buying pets from a pet store. That said, hopefully BBB takes better care of their toads than your every day run of the mill pet store does. I suspect BBB probably operates from a higher standard of ethics.

By the way, where can I learn more about the psychedelic usages and effects of these toads?

if you scope out the entheogenic evolution podcast, there are a couple of episodes one titles 5-meo-dmt and the mystic toad, and another called Temple Of Awakening Divinty. They both speak about the toad sacrament experience. I greatly enjoyed both, and Oroc and Hal's description, is right in line with my experiences.

most ppl that own a toad only ever smoke the venom once.

Hmm, Ive seen that many times as well. I think maybe it has to do with how intense it is. And my second thought is, because they dont need to.
First time I smoked, was so profound, I was glowing until next milking season, at which point, I saw it not needed, but delved in anyways and was to my surprise, greatly rewarded. Odd how you can blow your mind time and time over.
Its not any sort of gradual ego death like with other methods that are more gradual and drawn out like with some ayahuasca reports. (reports vary so much for so many reasons its hard for me to say anything with definitive measure beyond my own experience) I think 5-meo might be better suggested to folks with some nn-DMT experience, or a general to broad spiritual understanding, otherwise, it seems, folks sometimes black out, or cannot remember the experience simply due to not having anything to assimilate it to. What may be considered an overdose for some, may be perfect for others, not in the sense of how much does it take to work, but in the sense of how much can you assimilate and bring back to your understanding. For the most part, everyone Ive journeyed with was able to integrate at some point or another.
As for physical maladies, I have never experienced anything negative with 5-meo-DMT. There is the underdose that is not always so pleasant, but its only as unpleasant as we so accept it to be, its tricky. Ive been right on the cusp and realized it was me that was holding it back, then with the let go in a point when I figured the trip should me completely over, it went full bore. It does seem to be a tricky entheogen, but one that if you figure it out, is truly priceless. Or maybe Im just full of myself. lol doubt it, but gotta stay rational...lmao

Why do you think that is Phlux~?