Research Maybe a step towards harmine vaping juice

[Nachooo1]

Hi, after trying to develop a way to prepare an harmine juice since a few years ago and having used PGP, PEG base liquids that do not disolve the harmine well, I was inspired by this post :
1-3 propanediol (trimethylene glycol) instead of propylene glycol for DMT e-cig juice ?
So initially I purchased some propanediol , used it for dmt and found that it works very nice and much better for my lungs than pgp . But at some point I read somewhere that it was very good disolving alkaloids..so I think...maybe harmine is one of them..so I took some harmine powder a few militers of propanediol , heated a little and voila....it disolves the harmine hundreds of times better than PGP..leaving a clean nice red wine color solution...
Big thanks to The sofa traveler for pointing me towards propanediol .. my asthma is a problem when using PGP .

 

[Nachooo1]

Finally I put the solution in a ccell cartridge and take some hits...not hard in the lungs..in fact much smooth than I expected considering how harsh is the harmine freebase. I think I took too much..around 10 little hits...but just wanted to be sure harmine was going to work.. after it I wait a few minutes and took two little hits of dmt in other cartridge..... Yes....electro changa... finally....without lung problems and harmine working perfectly in the ccell .... By the way all my solutions dmt and harmine in propanediol were passed by a syringue filter.. just to prolong the coils life

 

[blig-blug]

This is very interesting, thanks for posting!
Was it harmine freebase or a salt?
Have you tried dissolving harmalas from rue, harmine and harmaline? I imagine harmaline should dissolve well too.
It will be great if this works well for e-juice changa!

 

[TransistorBass]

Interesting.
I forget who it was in a few threads the other week about using Lactic acid to make Lactate Harmalas that dissolved in PG.

 

[_Trip_]

That was me, it works well still have the original syringe of it somewhere it never crashed out. That was harmine and harmaline.
I csnt remember if it was pg vg or a combo I'd have to go over old threads.

 

[Nachooo1]

This is very interesting, thanks for posting!
Was it harmine freebase or a salt?
Have you tried dissolving harmalas from rue, harmine and harmaline? I imagine harmaline should dissolve well too.
It will be great if this works well for e-juice changa!

It was harmine freebase. Still not tried harmaline.

 

[Nachooo1]

Have done another batch of harmine juice and have to point a few things. Although harmine freebase disolves way better in propanediol than in PGP, it not disolves as well as DMT.
For 100 mg of harmine freebase you will need more than 2 ml of propanediol and heat it well. What I do is basically add an excess of harmine until it does not disolve . After heating it , I let decant the solution and the not disolved harmine rest in the bottom. Then with a syringue I take the solution except the excess of harmine and pass it through a filter and it become red cristal clear.
Is not a very concentrated solution. Not like as happens with DMT..but as harmine works in lungs at very low doses, it works well. I used a ccell with 1,5 ohms and have to take several hits...I think using a sub ohm coil will be better and less hits will be needed. Anyway It worked nicely even with the ccell, and disolves better than PGP , and for me is less hard on lungs than when I have use PGP.
I have read that harmine needs high temps to vaporize, but I am using temps used for THC, so around 200 C and for whatever reason it works well