Mescaline Acetate storage diasaster

[GobblinTorch]

So I extracted a solid 5 grams of pretty gorgeous (albeit waxy) impure Mescaline Acetate several months ago.

Unfortunately I was overconfident with its solid texture and just stored it in a tiny paper cup. I hate myself so much for not just throwing it in a salve jar. I scraped some of the more solid bits of the substance into a glass jar, but the paper cup is heavily saturated with tan oils. The solids I recovered only weigh 1.4g so there must be ~3.6g of goodies in that paper cup.

Anyways what's the best tactic to pull the mescaline off it? I have IPA and d-limonene.

 

[endlessness]

maybe redissolving in a bit of warm water, re-basing and re-extracting.

 

[GobblinTorch]

So originally I used a dry tek.

So basically dissolve in water (probably cut the paper cup into peices). Then add a tiny bit of calcium hydroxide. Then add some limonene. Then complete pulls with vinegar?

 

[endlessness]

Maybe... Ive never worked with calcium hydroxide, but I know that its not very water soluble, so unless the mixture is thick (not much water) like a dry tek, im not sure if it will base well enough. You can try that, and if yield is bad, add some sodium carbonate which will react with calcium hydroxide and form lye, which should increase the pH and therefore solubility of mescaline in the limonene.

either way just dont throw anything away till youre finished.

let us know how it goes

 

[Yerba]

Alternatively, just dissolve in water and evap. The product may come out relatively clean, or you can still decide to re-extract the remnants at that time if so desired.

 

[dg]

Alternatively, just dissolve in water and evap. The product may come out relatively clean, or you can still decide to re-extract the remnants at that time if so desired.

agreed, a couple of hot water pulls and evap might be the simplest

 

[endlessness]

Thats true, I probably over complicated it

 

[mew]

it dosent matter what solvent used, just dissolve and evap in a glass dish and store in an airtight and chilly enviroment

 

[GobblinTorch]

Wow so I almost thought I got really stoned and had thrown away the Mescaline saturated paper cup. I was keeping it inside a shot glass in a glass jar, but there was only a small residue on the shot glass when I went to try a recovery.

Luckily, I wasn't so daft and I had simply moved it into a film canister elsewhere. My Gonzo shoeboxes are a little cluttered with various vials and containers of psycho-actives!

Phew. Anyways thanks everyone, I'll give this a shot and report my findings.

 

[GobblinTorch]

So I cut the paper cup w/ residue and tossed it in a pyrex dish with some 8% acetic acid. Gave this a hot water bath for a while until the vinegar turned a light yellow colour and the paper cup was more white.

I then separated the peices of paper cup from the vinegar in the pyrex dish with a pair of tweezers and am giving the peices another pull with vingar in a small pan on low heat.

The only issue I'm envisioning is that some paper fibers seem to of dissolved along with the mescaline into the vinegar. Do you think there's any way to separate these, or am I just going to have to live with some slight paper fibers mixed in with the mescaline salts?

 

[endlessness]

Vinegar dissolved the paper?? I doubt it, maybe you mean some little pieces suspended in the vinegar? In that case, just filter it through paper filter or a funnel and cotton plug.

 

[GobblinTorch]

It's definitely not little pieces. I left them big enough to pick up with tweezers/metal sieve.

But you're probably right. I've left it to evap with a fan blowing over it and the "paper fibers" seem to of settled into a clumb of mucousy white-ish stuff.

Probably just something that was an original part of the impure mescaline acetate.

Makes me really eager to get my hands on MEK so I can purify my mescaline, but unfortunately I asked at a chemical supply store and they basically said I should be using DCM instead.

 

[endlessness]

The alkaloids will be dissolved in vinegar.. So if its already dried or nearly, and mixed with the white stuff, just add warm vinegar and filter the vinegar, the non-alkaloid stuff will be on top of the filter, and the mesc acetate will pass through dissolved in the vinegar. Just run a bit of warm vinegar over the filter afterwards to pick up any last bits of dmt acetate that the filter soaked up as it filtered.


Also, you can re-A/B your acetates to purify them. Redisslve, rebase, repull, resalt. When you salt again, use pure acetic acid if possible (or some clean distilled vinegar if thats not possible) or HCl, and use the right amounts dont use excess and the alks will be significantly purer.

 

[GobblinTorch]

It's nearly evapped. I'm going to let it dry completely and give it a scrape just to get a better idea what i'm dealing with.

The original product looked pretty pure. Basically a waxy yellow-tan with extremely minor amounts of brown here-and there. By dosage experience (using a scale) I'd estimate it's 70% pure mescaline (it was Peruvian Torch), but it looks more like 85% pure aesthetically.

Previous products were VERY brown and icky—this extraction was my first real success with a pretty clean mescaline acetate. I went beyond the goo factor!

Got a bottle of glacial acetic acid that I mix with water to make 5%.

So about this re-A/B ..

What do you mean about "right" amounts? Do you just mean use small amounts of all the solvents/acids/bases involved?


PS my current chemical supply is as follows:

**Glacial Acetic Acid, Reagent Grade 99%+
**d-limonene, 98%
**IPA, 99%
**Potentially Acetone (currently undergoing an evap test)
**Calcium Hydroxide
**Sodium Carbonate
**Sodium Hydroxide
**Fumaric Acid

 

[GobblinTorch]

So it's pretty dry. Could even call it all dry, but with this stuff I give it lots of extra time under a fan to make sure.

I used pure, reagent grade glacial acetic acid mixed with distilled water so I don't think the impurities are from the "vinegar." They're almost for sure Cactus alkaloids.

Here's some pictures. Unfortunately I only yielded 0.7g which is enough for a vibrantly psychedelic dose.

my original statement of 5g might of been incorrect (i might of packed a few 0.5g caps) because my original discovery of the melted acetates was during an endeavour to weigh what I had left. I know for sure it was AT LEAST 3g, but it might not of been 5g (at least I'm hoping it wasn't 5g).

That's still a pretty significant loss ... 2 doses

2.1g recovered, ~0.9g loss
But it could be as high as 2.9g loss which makes me CRY! Waaaah