Mimosa hostilis and Mimosa spp. (pudica, ophthalmocentra etc) Workspace

[NISMAS]

I couldnt find flowers it was made to seeds. This plant grows in tenerife, this island has few climate zones, it is similar to hawaii.

 

[NISMAS]

I found the flowers it look the same but this tree has no spikes

 

[Justintime]

Any ideas about this plant?

I know for sure it isn't Mimosa Podica, I have already identified that growing locally as well as Mimosa Pigra.

This plant is very very thorny.

I'm guessing that this is Mimosa Somnians....

If any more pictures are needed to help identify this plant then please let me know. The quality of my phones camera isn't up to much.

That's mimosa latidens. Vie been gathering roots for testing.

 

[Norsern_vind]

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[Norsern_vind]

Help identifying, fellow travelers?

Obtained with the understanding it was Hostilis from Brazil, but now it is exhibiting characteristics of pudica; i.e. thorns/ hairs inconsistent, but most specifically, a light touch or breeze causes the leaves to close.

Assistance in confirming would be greatly appreciated, as I wanted to make sure i wasn't making a mistake by scraping.

Note: in the first close leaf picture, they are open. The 2nd picture was approximately 20 seconds after lightly brushing with a finger.

 

[Aum_Shanti]

I would have a similar question. Many years ago we got some seeds from Taiwan. Now I'm actually interested in what it could be.
Could that be a Mimosa? If yes maybe which one?
It has no thorns or hairs.

From an online search, I would guess it could be a Mimosa bimucronata, but it's not from south-america, but Taiwan, so ???.
IMHO it looks very similar to Desmanthus illinoensis, but the seedpods look completely different. (you can see the upper part of a seed pod in the lower right corner)

 

[endlessness]

Sorry guys I can't help you with IDing these plants, not an expert.. As mentioned in post 6 of the first page of this thread, there are many look alikes. Norsern_vind, it is specially hard to ID when there are no pics of flowers.

Either way, you guys can always test for alkaloid content at least in a crude way. Do a test extraction by soaking shredded plant material in alcohol or water, evap the liquid, then use Ehrlich reagent and see if it turns purple. If not, probably doesn't have alkaloids of interest. If yes, then more research can be done. Reagents can be bought here, TLC kits for more advanced testing can be bought here, and if there are good indications that the plants contain alkaloids of interest, I am still willing to test people's extracts as explained here

 

[Norsern_vind]

Thanks Endlesness :thumb_up:

 

[twitchy]

Does anyone have any entheo-relevant information on Mimosa nuttallii? I did a google search and wasn't able to turn up much on it, which usually means it's either uninteresting or just hasn't been examined (in the right context that is :d ) It grows in USDA Zones: 4-8 which give it a fairly broad range and cold tolerance, and it's awful purty to boot. Common names include "Cat's Claw, Nuttall's Sensitive Brier, Bashful Brier, Shame-boy, Devil's Shoestrings, Sensitive Briar"*. 'Devil's Shoestrings' got my attention initially as plants that have been given common names with religous connotations are often active or toxic.

Range:

https://www.everwilde.com/media/BONAP-Wildflower-Maps/Mimosa-nuttallii-Distribution-Map.gif

Wiki:

Mimosa nuttallii - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

*Mimosa nuttallii (Sensitive Briar) Wildflower Seed