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Most intense night# 2x pharmahuasca in one night. 150 + 220

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kyrolima

kyrolima

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I took together with a friend pharmahuasca.
Nearly about 150 mg for me and 75 mg for my friend.

We drank it down and as the first effects began i was surprised!
Not as usual, because i was used to capsules, which did not work that good.

3 stages:
1. feeling of aliens supervision.
2. geometric patterns
3. teachings

1. At the beginning i had the feeling, that some other species is watching how humankind is doing. Like watching little bacteria under a microscope! They check, how society forms, how our behavior works, how we reproduce and die!

2. I saw the fractual geometric patterns, moving and turning inwards, morphing and totally multicoloured beauty! I'd wish I could get a poster or a wallpaper from such images soon. Perhaps I try to paint my own picture.

I wonder where this patterns come from. Anybody an idea?

3. Every time i take DMT it is like feeling to get connected to a teacher! This time it tought me, that I can get all i want. There is infinite love, infinite wealth, infinite bliss!


T+4 h. effects clear away.

It was about 2 a.m.
I had the feeling that I want to go back!​

So I took my scale and weighted 220 mg DMT + 170 mg rue extract.
Put it in a small jar and poured some coke over it!

I got back into my bed and as the effects started to emerge, i was immediately reminded of my first experience with DMT!

I shook my entire body, left to right and really wild and odd.
I enjoyed it so much. This warm and wild feeling. Strange thing is, I had NO visuals or any other effects than that.

Unfortunately i pissed in my bed :D. Damn, that was a mess. As i tried to stand up, i realized that I was a total mess too. I had been bumping my head a few times against the wall, when i was still lying in my bed. I found myself lying on the floor.

Now I was so dizzy and fucked, that i just coulndn't gain orientation and switch the light back on.
I felt totally helpless trying to find the switch in the dark!

Thinking was not really possible. I felt like totally stupid. Every action i tried to plan needed a large amount of time! Decision making was VERY hard.

I cleaned up the mess. Threw the pissed sheets outside the house and made my bed.
I stood there like a total imbecile. I was afraid that i damaged my brain somehow (wall-bumping) and be imprisoned in a imbeciles body for the rest of my life.

I also thought that the DMT is able to make some permanent damage. I was glad that I soon "woke up".
I gained concentration again, and could relax!
As i tried to sleep, i had some interesting effects:

It was like everything, time, ego, thought processes got silent and really slow!
Like that it all faded. Like muting the stereo.
I disappeared.

Today I woke up, good feeling and still nicely meditative and relaxed.
 
Mr_DMT said:
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Sometimes just silence is a comment in its own. Some other times comments may come given some time.

Are you anxiously expecting comments on your report? Why?
 
I think these fractal patterns are a result of the decomposed awareness of space.
In our heads we break down space into the tiniest pieces we can be aware of.

The DMT experience is a sort of automatic self-analysis. The structure of our counsciousness is being revealed to us. In the case of the visuals this means the structure of visual awareness.

We aquire meaning from our visual impressions because of it's geometry.
The very awareness of different colours is a matter of geometry. A colour is defined by how close it is to the edge of the visual spectrum. Is it on the edge of high frequencies, then it is blue and on the edge of the low frequencies it is red.

The fractals are supergeometric. They have shapes that are defined by colours wich are defined by a more precise level of shape as i mentioned above.
Therefore they reveal how you see things. Everything you can see is rooted in this sense of geometry in your inner eye and this geometry is revealed by the fractals.

That is at least my view on it.
 
220mg of dmt....this is something that i do not understand..when SWIM takes dmt...if he gets more than 70mg worth..its more intense than smoking 50mg..

i really feel that people are missing something crucial when they have to take that much dmt...60mg for SWIM can so visually overwhelming..that SWIM loses all memory of who he is and where he is..and whats going on...

this is something that i recommend everyone tries if they have to take over 100mg dmt orally to get anything from it..

first...eat it on a completely empty stomach...take around 175-200mg harmala alkaloids...THH and harmine combined work the best so far in SWIMS experiments...even with other people....take 75mg dmt fumarate...

combine the dmt and harmala alkies in WARM to HOT water...this is important...mix it very very well....state your intentions to the brew...if its healing ask for healing...if its knowledge ask for knowledge...just remember the spice elves dont take kindly to power hungry requests

next...take the shot of brew...

now here is the most important part....eat something light...toast some bread..and put some butter on it...eat at least half..

effects will start in 20 minutes..

and if everything goes just right...you will be tripping harder than you think is safe
 
Thats some good advise brother Jorkest.

I think its also important to mention that for those peeps who dont use fumerate, they should dissolve it in something that contains vitamin C ie OJ or cranberry as it is more soluble in acidic solution. I think coke would work too due to the phosphoric.

Also, i think if you are gonna over do it on anything, you should over do it on the harmalas.
I have come to the conclusion that I have way more MAO enzymes than others and i suspect im not entirley unique in that sense.
I attend ceremonies regularly and always find that i have somewhat mediocre experiences compared to what other attendees report.
I generally have to go up for several times through out the night for booster doses, but never seem to get that deep.
Like i said, i suspected i had a high MAO count and so decided to suppliment the usual harmala drink with 200mg THH.
20mins later i had the jurema drink (2.5 shots) my usual starting amount. Now bearing in mind i normally have to have several of these shots through out the night, 2.5shots at the begining of the night had me absolutley GONE for the WHOLE night. I couldnt even think about going up for a second dose.
See Deepest iv been - DMT Experiences - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

My point is that i think people who are taking high doses of dmt and not goin that deep (as was i) are not sufficiently inhibiting their enzymes, and rather than upping the dmt dose, they should take a larger dose of harmalas at the begining.
This certainly worked for me anyway.
 
absolutely..you need to get the MAO inhibition...and for some people they need more...but seriously 50mg dmt fumarate can SEND YOU...you just need to get it to your brain...
 
i mean EVERYONE gets a breakthrough on 50mg smoked freebase...so that means to me..if you need to take 250mg that 200mg isnt even getting close to your head...this is the problem..
 
Jorkest said:
absolutely..you need to get the MAO inhibition...and for some people they need more...but seriously 50mg dmt fumarate can SEND YOU...you just need to get it to your brain...
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Yep, gotta get tht inhibition my brothers
 
Mr_DMT said:
No, i'm not.
But I thought maybe that alien part scared people off :D
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:lol:

People here are pretty dedicated neither Aliens, vomit, wetting the bed or spending the night on the bathroom floor will discourage most here. Its a serious bunch around here.:lol:

Thanks for posting your report.

PEACE
MV
 
True... although buckets and jars are useful allies for bodily fluids. I don't think I've ever actually used a toilet on aya/pharma... don't get me wrong. I'd love to, really. It's just... not feasible.
 
soulfood said:
True... although buckets and jars are useful allies for bodily fluids. I don't think I've ever actually used a toilet on aya/pharma... don't get me wrong. I'd love to, really. It's just... not feasible.
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wow, I plan on trying another pharma journey this weekend.... I tried last week and it wast too strong so swim is gonna try again. But should swim plan on this? What dose pharma do you take? and is it a common thing for everyone to not be able to get to the toilet?
 
I use 150mg harmalas + 50mg DMT in OJ. That's a heavy dose for me, literally. Gravity seems to get turned up somewhat.

I have tried using with friends this same dose and they are able to have CEV's but not OEV's and they are still able to function as sober (come in handy a few times for me :))

But I think if you are full into a heavy session you better have something close to hand that can substitute a toilet. I'm not saying it's impossible to get there, but I imagine it would be very hard work.

I agree with jorkest that it can be much more intense than DMT vapour.
 
Jorkest said:
220mg of dmt....this is something that i do not understand..when SWIM takes dmt...if he gets more than 70mg worth..its more intense than smoking 50mg..

i really feel that people are missing something crucial when they have to take that much dmt...60mg for SWIM can so visually overwhelming..that SWIM loses all memory of who he is and where he is..and whats going on...

this is something that i recommend everyone tries if they have to take over 100mg dmt orally to get anything from it..

first...eat it on a completely empty stomach...take around 175-200mg harmala alkaloids...THH and harmine combined work the best so far in SWIMS experiments...even with other people....take 75mg dmt fumarate...

combine the dmt and harmala alkies in WARM to HOT water...this is important...mix it very very well....state your intentions to the brew...if its healing ask for healing...if its knowledge ask for knowledge...just remember the spice elves dont take kindly to power hungry requests

next...take the shot of brew...

now here is the most important part....eat something light...toast some bread..and put some butter on it...eat at least half..

effects will start in 20 minutes..

and if everything goes just right...you will be tripping harder than you think is safe
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Finally a brilliant mind who has told us all the best way to do this. I loved it, the prayer to the brew and all. SWIM will be doing this in two days time, can't wait. tHanks
 
MagikVenom said:
Mr_DMT said:
No, i'm not.
But I thought maybe that alien part scared people off :D
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:lol:

People here are pretty dedicated neither Aliens, vomit, wetting the bed or spending the night on the bathroom floor will discourage most here. Its a serious bunch around here.:lol:

Thanks for posting your report.

PEACE
MV
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Touche!!!
 
thanks to Jorkest!
I know this was a fatal overdose.
I tried it another day 220 mg and I gone mad.
I screamed like a crazy fool ^^

After 1 day I tried again.
This time
as Jorkest said 75 mg and 200 mg in warm water + little food.

Excellent trip.
Nothing fancy, but very pleasurable!

I think 150 should be max dosage for me. Everything further creates just crazyness.
 
For some reason, pure DMT doesn't work as well as DMT in plant form.
I have to meet the first person who needs 200 grams of chacruna or 40 grams of jurema to be able to feel anything.

The fact that ayahuasca with mimosa and with psychotria, both have a different feel to it, also is worth mentioning. There are other alkaloids that contribute to the unique experience ayahuasca gives.

You need to get the right amounts of MAOI's wich seems to be not the same amount for everyone.
I personally need a little bit more then most people. 40 grams of caapi is júst too little. I need 50 grams, but some people even need much more then that.

A small amount of mushrooms that is too small to have much effects on it's own can significantly boost the effects of DMT as well.
 
Mr_DMT said:
No, i'm not.
But I thought maybe that alien part scared people off :D
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No my friend, most of us have had this type of contact before.

You're experience does ring familiar, wanting to go back is common!

I'm sorry you had some issues on your second try, but that's part of the process, sometimes it is a way to remove toxins (never heard of that type of purge happening, but I'm sure you are not the only one).

I frequently have the feeling of being watched, or at least studied, and frequently on Aya cerimonies I am taught things about myself, humanity, even the workings of the "big picture".

Also polytrip, keep in mind that in leafy plants a majority of the DMT is in DMT N-Oxide form, so analysis of these plants MAY NOT include the Oxides (same with Aya brews that have been tested, they only are testing the DMT content and not DMT Oxide, giving skewed results)....and no one should need 40grams of mimosa if properlly made. Effects for even most hardheads can be felt with as little as 6grams.

I need 200+ mgs of xtal spice for a moderate pharma voyage....the dosages range so much per person, and even change during the day. 200mgs sometimes takes me where I want to go and othertimes only gives a mild experience.

You are 100% correct about the varring amount of Caapi people need, but also keep in mind that Caapi varies wildy in the amount of harmala alkaloids it contains (depending on its age, genetic makeup, where it was grown, etc....). So 50g of weak Caapi might do what 20grams of really strong Caapi would. Plants are more difficult to work with because of this....I usually by large batches of plants at a time so I can test the stregnth of the plants and get more consistant results.
 
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