Moved to tears...

[TmC47]

I honestly haven't researched this section of the Nexus on this, yet here goes:

I still don't know if I've broken trough in the sense as it's spoken about. I've surely been to CandyLand on 40 mgs and have seen amazing things when I upped to 60 twice. But, as different as any batch or dosage-level is experientially, one of the things that always happens to me is that at the end of the experience, as the veil of consensus-reality is once more laid over my mind, I shed tears. Half a dozen or so. While still in reclined position. I do not feel an emotion at that point that could precipitate such an occurrence, other than being homesick from leaving the DMT realm, as well as a feeling of gratitude. If anything, I feel privileged, emotionally vulnerable and sad I have to go (but not overly so: Smoking DMT scares me still, yet I keep coming back about once a month).

What I'm getting at is that I wonder if this is a shared occurrence with more travellers, and what their views are on this. (the only)Two of my fellow travellers do not exhibit this reaction.
Is it a physiological reaction to a chemical introduced into the body, a throw-back to more 'naive' states of mind (having witnessed toddlers cry bloody murder when I left friends' houses after a 2-night stay) or is there a more 'real' emotional turmoil at work here.

I'd love to hear opinions on this.

Peace.

 

[TrustLoveMan]

You and me both buddy. DMT has made me cry before. I wasn't sad or happy really but I felt the urge to cry and I didn't fight it. I was also laughing though. I remember thinking it was because the trip was so amazing, but it was actually a pretty tame experience.

 

[endlessness]

Oh yeah, tears is quite common with me. Sometimes it is tears of joy/amazement, accompanied by very strong emotions, and many times Im also laughing at the sheer absurdity of what I just experienced, wishing I could express even a tiny bit of what just happened but knowing its impossible.

But at times it seems like a plain biological reaction, that comes regardless of the emotions. In the publications of DMT pharmacology, I dont remember reading anything about the effect of DMT in the lacrimal glands.. But it seems to indeed be reasonably common, at least for some people, just like yawning happens when taking oral psychedelics for some people (with me, specially on mushrooms)

 

[antrocles]

i have cried many times. most recently, just a week ago, i wept for a half-hour solid. hard as i've ever cried. i cried from the sheer massive gift i had received and the weight of it's knowledge. the ineffable beauty and the immeasureable gift of insight....

let 'em flow!

L&G!!

 

[Bill Cipher]

I have cried myself more than once. It's just such an overwhelming (and overwhelmingly beautiful) experience, that I get pretty raw in the aftermath. I think this is totally normal. In fact, I would say that one would have to be pretty shut down (emotionally speaking) to go deep and not be rocked to the point of emotional instability.

 

[TrustLoveMan]

The time I cried. That was the first time I prayed and meditated before a trip. I wanted to see if it could make my trips easier. I had thought that people exaggerated the wow factor and was having trips compared to 1/4oz of shrooms. I took a lot of advice and fixed my smoking technique so basically this was my first huge rip without tolerance already built up. Since then I've had more amazing trips but that first one was very emotional because I knew I found something truly amazing.

I think it'll probably happen again whenever I get around to buying some caapi.

 

[aetherbound]

Happens to me about 75% of the time...they are tears of joy and amazement....tears because I feel so incredibly lucky to experience such a wonderful thing...often saying thank you over and over...
Aether

 

[TmC47]

You and me both buddy. DMT has made me cry before. I wasn't sad or happy really but I felt the urge to cry and I didn't fight it. I was also laughing though. I remember thinking it was because the trip was so amazing, but it was actually a pretty tame experience.

That is precisely what I am trying to convey. Being quite in-touch with my emotions, I embrace every opportunity for sincere tears OR laughs. (the Laughs usually come if and when I open my eyes mid-journey :shock: :d )

Happens to me about 75% of the time...they are tears of joy and amazement....tears because I feel so incredibly lucky to experience such a wonderful thing...often saying thank you over and over...

I hear you. There was a period when I politely asked the guides to show me something more interesting than last time... turns out a grateful exit is worth a lot more than a request or demand beforehand. I've had no journeys the same since I changed my stance.

I have cried myself more than once. It's just such an overwhelming (and overwhelmingly beautiful) experience, that I get pretty raw in the aftermath. I think this is totally normal. In fact, I would say that one would have to be pretty shut down (emotionally speaking) to go deep and not be rocked to the point of emotional instability.

Raw in the aftermath..... that touches upon a feeling I've had for some time now. I've never been addicted to substances (well....there's nicotine.... ), but the symptoms of 'cold turkey' have been adequately described. The whole DMT experience feels to me as I imagine to feel as if I first use a substance, go through habituation, withdrawal and be clean, all compressed in the space-time of 10-15 mins. And I mean it includes bodily shivers and everything imaginable in such a short time-frame. I know it's absurd: the body won't be able to reproduce these symptoms to any appreciable extend, but the thought lingers in my mind.. But then again, that's mostly my brain talking. The journey is undertaken with the heart, or so it is for me. Thanks for sharing this, Art (what's in a name...)

i have cried many times. most recently, just a week ago, i wept for a half-hour solid. hard as i've ever cried. i cried from the sheer massive gift i had received and the weight of it's knowledge. the ineffable beauty and the immeasureable gift of insight....

I do hope to have the revelation of insight one time. For now, I feel like I'm just roaming at the sidelines. But boy! such sights to see and feelings to feel. With other substances, I do fall into the '50% entertainment / 50% revelation'-category. DMT is not 'entertaining' in the usual sense. I guess I am a seeker of arcane knowledge when it comes to DMT.... I might need a stronger light to guide me.

But at times it seems like a plain biological reaction, that comes regardless of the emotions. In the publications of DMT pharmacology, I dont remember reading anything about the effect of DMT in the lacrimal glands.. But it seems to indeed be reasonably common, at least for some people, just like yawning happens when taking oral psychedelics for some people (with me, specially on mushrooms)

Wow! I yawn my jaw off in the after-time of a DMT-journey. I yawn shamelessly at least 6 times at that point, every time. There seems to be a cultural misunderstanding about yawning in that it is perceived as a insulting lack of interest at the subject(s) at hand, whereas it is really a limbic trigger to increase the oxygen-supply to the brain. Granted, sometimes needed to keep attention-levels up :d
Again, none of my fellow-travellers have this reaction. Yay! I'm not alone!
(BTW: I dig the eclectic mix of cerebral and emotional analytical approach you lean towards, endlessness. I'm somewhat of the same persuasion: the dichotomy of this keeps me balanced, I feel.
Thank you for your insights!

The time I cried. That was the first time I prayed and meditated before a trip. I wanted to see if it could make my trips easier. I had thought that people exaggerated the wow factor and was having trips compared to 1/4oz of shrooms. I took a lot of advice and fixed my smoking technique so basically this was my first huge rip without tolerance already built up. Since then I've had more amazing trips but that first one was very emotional because I knew I found something truly amazing.

I went into DMT with cold feet, a healthy sense of self-preservation and a piece-meal upping of dosage myself. My first couple of 'tries' were uneventful, but the feeling of having found some truly amazing strikes a familiar chord in me too. Sometimes I think one should 'drink deep or taste not' of this well of knowledge and experience, but one cannot change the way one is. Mind you, my crying only became common after I found the solution of the problem of having my mouth and throat feel full of gems, and subsequently finding the solution to this problem (toking with my mouth DRY), but once I found that out I had not so much anxiety any more.
I have to add: I am deeply in debt to the enlightened soul who introduced me to DMT, with spice to try and all. He casually described the experience as 'dying'. I guess that kept me on my toes! Thank you, you know who you are!



Thanks you all!

Peace.

 

[Espiridion]

all my base are belong to you....
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tears oh the tears.

my favorite part of the post-hyperspace-reality-segue.

I cry as a newborn. I cry as a human with good reason and I cry because hey: get that negativity out EVERY CHANCE YOU GET!!!

I thank the mind-DMT connection for the tears the laughter the sheer lack of conundrum-explaining-vocabulary and the chemical RESET button deep in my cerebral matter.



now. how 'bout LAUGHTER, EH?

........................WHO'S WITH ME?????!!!!!!



E

 

[TmC47]

I'm all for it Espiridion. As a wise woman once told me, laughter in the temple is a wonderful thing to have. I'm sure ones on the the other side would agree! However, maybe crying is to tears as laughter is to smiles. The two former don't happen as much as the two latter with me. But I keep my emotion wide open for both!

 

[DMTripper]

Happens to me about 75% of the time...they are tears of joy and amazement....tears because I feel so incredibly lucky to experience such a wonderful thing...often saying thank you over and over...
Aether

Same here.
I feel privileged and I feel extremely grateful. And I feel very special Most people I think couldn't get there with DMT. They would panic and get too scared. Never try it again after blasting off once.

 

[ms_manic_minxx]

There is nothing more cathartic than a good cry with Mama Aya... it goes so much deeper than a regular cry... almost like exorcising the pain of the world...

 

[TmC47]

There is nothing more cathartic than a good cry with Mama Aya... it goes so much deeper than a regular cry... almost like exorcising the pain of the world...

Aye! But I shudder at the prospect of taking Aya though... I don't classify my tear-drops as anywhere near the forcefulness of that transitional ritual I expect it to be. I have to grow a second pair first...

 

[State of the Mind]

DMT has never brought tears to my eyes, however as I come back to reality after travels, I am allways filled with laughter and butterfly's in my stomach. Also I seem to have a nice sense of well-being that lasts for a good few hours after the experience.

These feelings of emotion must be down to the minds awe of what has just been experienced.