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KannaRas

KannaRas

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Hey fello nexian's

Ive heared there are many who enjoy the art of music here live \ electronic

Id like to share some idea's id be happy to hear some to

Hz- i think its a good aproch to start from into music

im not sure with the A,b,c,d,e,f,g sounds theory how this should work when thinking in Hz.numbers

ive taken a guitar .. and tuned it with Gtune vst while looking the Hz's

ive tought about Takeing a 1-10 number and jumping in octaves to try and figure out maybe a scale or something but thats to confusing to try and connect the A-G theory with this one

So forgetting that for now

I saw that in the guitar when you move from fret to fret .. on spring wires the Hz always changes from fret to fret

i mean like it jumps 80-85.xx then 85-91... then 97 and ect

so i tought that i should try and see with the 1-10 (+octaves) - (half\quarter octaves) where the sounds will be good and try to figure out some sort of something i could call a scale

after that i setup my guitar with clean strings

the lower Hz's of them sounds good

ive tryin looking up diffrent strings in phone cables speaker and so

most of them dont generate a sound that the magnet can pick up

and those who do dont sell in many diffrent mass types

with the clean strings the jumps in Hz. is almost always 10

i figure that should work well if u start on a 10 multiplied number

it does

so the drop from fret to lower string is not always on the fifth and not always the same

gotta check what u can work with

the clean strings they could go up to almost 340 befor breaking

the octaves dont fall on the 12 string to depends on the Hz

when ill take some Hz's ill keep for the guitar im gonna write them down see how to understand it a bit deeper for chords\scales

if ill make those pages ill upload them

So i bet this can work with diffrent insturment to

The easiest one should be the piano it will be hard work to tune it im sure

but u could mix up a nice math of scales Hz and make it easy to play

Im goin to try reconfigure my Midi in Cubase so i could test this out soon




In cubase Using a sample and Just Eq\boost\eq\duplicate\diffrenteq\diffrentboost\ and so and so

you could make nice loops just from using a single sample with rich HZ's in the EQ

its lots and lots of EQ's and the order they are placed on the channel is really importent to

good time to dig deep in a signal and discover many sounds from it



***** piano tought's


440 dosnt divide by 12

if u can put aside the design of the piano and just tune it up with good frequencies u can make it
very simple for anyone to play without any knowledge from past

440 by 12 is 36.6666666666
im not sure how ur piano tuner works

im sure that he can adjust the piano in any way you wish

a good "note" im thinking to check is 5 from it goin up in octaves

10-20-40-80-160-320-640-1280-2560

E is 82

So if u give an octave 8 keys

u play in 20hz jumps

so if u tune it to 10\20\40 jumps in frequency by note

should be intresting




***** guitar

the standard tuneing is D82 and hes harmonics

82 as u know is called D but really 82 has a diffrent name
82 is called 1.28125

that is hes first octave

that might cuase a problem

becuse its not a complete number

so if u just start multiplyin and dividing by 2 u can learn alot

if u wish to play the standard tuneing you might want to consider playing it according to 80 \448




***Frq Hz c

7-14`28*56.112^224^448

112-126-140-144-158-172-186-200-214-228-242-256-270-284-308-322-338-352-366-380-394-408
14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14


112 `140 `168 `196 `224 `252 `280 `308 `336 `364 `392 `420
28 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 82 28


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ill update this post from time to time
 
Oh boy, where to begin. You seem to be trying to reinvent the wheel, which I find strange. First off, if you're trying to map Hz to notes you should know that it isn't a linear relationship. A note an octave higher is just doubling the Hz. So if you have A at 440Hz, A in the next octave would be 880Hz. Also, they're called wound strings, not springs. Here are some articles to get you started, though I really recommend learning actual notes rather than trying to memorize frequencies if you actually want to play music. Otherwise you'll never get past the basics


en.wikipedia.org

Pythagorean tuning - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org

Equal temperament - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Also, an octave is 12 notes, not 10. And why in the world would you use phone cable to amplify your guitar? Cables are like 10$ at the shop. Furthermore I'm not exactly sure what it is you're asking/trying to accomplish. Are you trying to sample the guitar sounds by running a direct xlr to your DAW? Please explain :?:

EDIT: I just reread your OP and you shouldn't use phone cables as guitar strings - it will ruin the instrument. I recommend learning how to clean and maintain your instrument, and then learning to play it. All you are going to achieve if you continue what you are doing is making a functional instrument unplayable, which is a waste. :thumb_dow
 
Also, an octave is 12 notes, not 10. And why in the world would you use phone cable to amplify your guitar? Cables are like 10$ at the shop. Furthermore I'm not exactly sure what it is you're asking/trying to accomplish. Are you trying to sample the guitar sounds by running a direct xlr to your DAW? Please explain :?:

thats a good idea that would give a nice spectrum in the eq
have not tested it yet

i wanted to test how thinker strings without wound will sound there were not many sizes of them around their usually pretty thin in the strings sets


EDIT: I just reread your OP and you shouldn't use phone cables as guitar strings - it will ruin the instrument. I recommend learning how to clean and maintain your instrument, and then learning to play it. All you are going to achieve if you continue what you are doing is making a functional instrument unplayable, which is a waste. :thumb_dow [/quote]

how will it ruin it ? how are those diffrent then normal strings ?

copper strings dont make waves in the magnetic field
one kind did maybe it was a hybrid
 
The guitar is designed to withstand a precise amount of tension calculated based on the diameter, length, tension, and material of the strings. By changing all of these variables at once, you will do damage to the instrument which may not always be visible till later in time. These things should all be basics for someone who owns a guitar or has done minimal research. You still haven't said - what are you even trying to go with this guitar (aside from destroying it)? My impression so far is that you have no idea. If that sounds harsh, it's only a result of my extreme shock and confusion at what you are communicating.

The reason they don't sell unwound strings in thicker guages is because putting strings like that on a guitar will break the guitar. The amount of tension needed to tune unwound strings to the same note as the thicker wound strings on a guitar will snap the truss rod and warp the neck, possibly breaking it in an explosion of wood, steel, and copper which could easily mame you or kill you.
 
Psybin said:
The guitar is designed to withstand a precise amount of tension calculated based on the diameter, length, tension, and material of the strings. By changing all of these variables at once, you will do damage to the instrument which may not always be visible till later in time. These things should all be basics for someone who owns a guitar or has done minimal research. You still haven't said - what are you even trying to go with this guitar (aside from destroying it)? My impression so far is that you have no idea. If that sounds harsh, it's only a result of my extreme shock and confusion at what you are communicating


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im not sure i do tune the guitar not to high

the standard tuneing is pretty stressed u know ? almost every string is pulled to the max

tuneing it fro 5'th fret down 1 string might be to streesed

thats true




yea your right things do get damaged over time thats common thing

im playing with it for a long time mostly just picking strings on low hz to make rythms for meditation

tryin to work out on higher notes how to make good sounds also when playing with the neck of the guitar

and not just the knobs who strech the strings

the tool i have is that octave is X2 so im using that

equal temperent might help ill read that soon and see what i can pick up from there to help

thanks for the links
 
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