My 1st DMT extration...A Blog (UK)

[thepureskunk]

Hi to everyone on the DMT Nexus

As the title suggests, this is my first ever DMT extraction and maybe some help will be needed so I thought why not blog the process which will be a STB.

It has been over 2 months of reading that has gotten me to this point. My initial interest was sparked sometime ago when I was given some mushrooms and some Ketamine.
It had been ages since I had done any sort of tripping. In my past I have done mushrooms over 10 times and LSD in the form of tabs and micro dots over 10 times as well…sometimes at strong doses.
Well I had never done K before and while searching erowid i came across DMT. The trip reports just blew me away...

It was amazing to think that you could visit other worlds and for the trip to take no longer that 30mins or so!! Mushrooms, although I love them, always seem to last too long…this seemed a perfect thing to experiment with and it also quite a safe chemical to use and one which our own bodies make…cool

I then got The Spirit Molecule by straussman and my resolve to enter hyperspace had been cemented.

After reading a lot here and at another site, i came across this post...nice:

Extract it. Be careful with your extraction make sure you know what your doing first. Your not gonna get much of a yield! But id say you can get a good 400 mg worth out of it! But if you waste 200 mg worth thru mistakes etc , some always sticks to sides of jars etc. here's what id do. get a liter pop bottle. Rinse out thouroghly with water. You can use that because its plastic, clear, and has a long skinny neck.

Mix 800 ml of distilled water with
54 grams of lye and
your 54 grams of bark in that bottle.

Shake the bottle, vent the lid the bottle will expand with the heat that will generate from adding lye and to vent some of the vapors(wont be much think smell of drain cleaner)

Now added 150 ml of VM + P naptha. Swirl the mixture trying to not shake and cause too many air bubbles. After 10 minutes of swirling and mixin the mixture allow it to settle for at least an hour. The suck off the top naptha layer into an evaporating dish or jar. Thats your first pull. repeat two more pulls. Take that 400-450 ml of solvent and evaporate to a third volume bout 100 to 150 ml and freeze precipitate it. that means seal that reduced solvent in an airtight container and put in an extremely cold freezer for a day. Pour off solvent, perhaps filter, and allow the crystals to dry. Thats it.

Many do A/B extractions and id recomend that 2 but STB eliminates some possible sources of losses and it works!

Wow this was what i needed for my stoner brain...a nice simple write up

I done some more research and then got the supplies..

The pics show what i have got together so far. I wanted to ask a couple of Q's before i started to extract..

1) Is the bottle in the pic ok to use for the lye/MHRB/water/nap mix? It has a rubber seal on, is this ok?

2) The bottle has a capacity of 750ml or .75L. How much MHRB can i mix in this size bottle...or is it too small?

3) My Caustic Soda say its 99% NaOh. Is this acceptable?

4) Is the amount of Nap quoted above a little to much and maybe 100ml per pull would suffice

That's it really for now...unless someone knows how to easily get the tops off these lighter-fuel bottles??

I will take pics as i extract.. just need to get these Q's answered and i will give it a go!!

Peace and thanks for reading, TPS

 

[fourthripley]

Pliers will have those lighter fluid tops off in a jiffy.

 

[soulfood]

Hi to everyone on the DMT Nexus



Now added 150 ml of VM + P naptha. Swirl the mixture trying to not shake and cause too many air bubbles. After 10 minutes of swirling and mixin the mixture allow it to settle for at least an hour. The suck off the top naptha layer into an evaporating dish or jar. Thats your first pull. repeat two more pulls. Take that 400-450 ml of solvent and evaporate to a third volume bout 100 to 150 ml and freeze precipitate it. that means seal that reduced solvent in an airtight container and put in an extremely cold freezer for a day. Pour off solvent, perhaps filter, and allow the crystals to dry. Thats it.

One comment on this tek. I've heard that with the volumes you are talking about 3 pulls with 50ml (or maybe even 25ml) solvent per pull will be much more efficient. You don't want to be evaporating so much solvent as it's extra hassle and also as solvents can be re-used a total waste.

Keep the base/MHRB solution on the side. If the 3rd pull yields a fair quantity of product do another pull.

SWIM does their initial mix in a larger container and when doing solvent pulls transfers small quantities of solution to a more narrow vessel so that the solvent layer appears taller. There's nothing worse than trying to pipette a skinny layer of solvent as you always end up sucking some of the lower solution up through it.

Also unless it's a large bulk extraction turkey basters are a pain. They are not very accurate and they drip lots, even with extra air sealing via sticky tape around where the bulb and the drawer meet. It's recommended that one invests in some smaller pipettes or uses a make-shift sep. funnel from a zip-lock sandwich bag (works fine but can be a little messy).

Also one should carefully plan about how to remove the crystals from the solvent after freezing (i.e. a coffee filter in a funnel) and a good setup for letting the crystals dry. Very often the crystals will stick to the jar and it's best to leave the jar up-turned but angled slightly to let anyway moisture drip down and escape as to not disolve the crystals and then give the jar a good scraping once it's thoroughly dry.

The NaOH should be fine.

The skinny neck on the bottle may cause some bother as it's good to be able to stir, but as long as a funnel is used to carefully get everything in a good shaking before the solvent is added should suffice.

Educated purists would frown on a rubber seal, but I heard of someone using old pasta sauce jars and they never thought twice about it after obtaining the final product.

If someone's going to put that dish in a freezer it's going to have to be very well sealed somehow as moisture is a big no-no.

As for measurements, refer to nomans "DMT for the masses" tek. It's a good starter and one can refine it to their own tastes for future extractions.

 

[thepureskunk]

One comment on this tek. I've heard that with the volumes you are talking about 3 pulls with 50ml (or maybe even 25ml) solvent per pull will be much more efficient. You don't want to be evaporating so much solvent as it's extra hassle and also as solvents can be re-used a total waste.

Keep the base/MHRB solution on the side. If the 3rd pull yields a fair quantity of product do another pull.

SWIM does their initial mix in a larger container and when doing solvent pulls transfers small quantities of solution to a more narrow vessel so that the solvent layer appears taller. There's nothing worse than trying to pipette a skinny layer of solvent as you always end up sucking some of the lower solution up through it.

Also unless it's a large bulk extraction turkey basters are a pain. They are not very accurate and they drip lots, even with extra air sealing via sticky tape around where the bulb and the drawer meet. It's recommended that one invests in some smaller pipettes or uses a make-shift sep. funnel from a zip-lock sandwich bag (works fine but can be a little messy).

Also one should carefully plan about how to remove the crystals from the solvent after freezing (i.e. a coffee filter in a funnel) and a good setup for letting the crystals dry. Very often the crystals will stick to the jar and it's best to leave the jar up-turned but angled slightly to let anyway moisture drip down and escape as to not disolve the crystals and then give the jar a good scraping once it's thoroughly dry.

The NaOH should be fine.

The skinny neck on the bottle may cause some bother as it's good to be able to stir, but as long as a funnel is used to carefully get everything in a good shaking before the solvent is added should suffice.

Educated purists would frown on a rubber seal, but I heard of someone using old pasta sauce jars and they never thought twice about it after obtaining the final product.

If someone's going to put that dish in a freezer it's going to have to be very well sealed somehow as moisture is a big no-no.

As for measurements, refer to nomans "DMT for the masses" tek. It's a good starter and one can refine it to their own tastes for future extractions.

Thanks a lot soulfood for the excellent reply and for taking the time out to help a fellow extractor. Really cool of you

Intresting that you use a different container for mixing and one for the nap pulls. Something i will try out. What type of bottles are good for the mix...is plastic ok?
I will also use a lot less nap per pull.

Shame my brand new sparkling baster will not be used I did test it out earlier and you are right it aint that good. I will get some pipettes...again is plastic ok (got a couple lying around)?

The glass dish pictured above also has a secure air-tight lid. Gotta admit i had forgotten about getting the coffee filters

So i will re-group and get the extra few things in the next couple of days and then i will get to work!!

Thanks also to forthripley for the advice

 

[soulfood]

Thanks a lot soulfood for the excellent reply and for taking the time out to help a fellow extractor. Really cool of you

Intresting that you use a different container for mixing and one for the nap pulls. Something i will try out. What type of bottles are good for the mix...is plastic ok?
I will also use a lot less nap per pull.

Shame my brand new sparkling baster will not be used I did test it out earlier and you are right it aint that good. I will get some pipettes...again is plastic ok (got a couple lying around)?

The glass dish pictured above also has a secure air-tight lid. Gotta admit i had forgotten about getting the coffee filters

So i will re-group and get the extra few things in the next couple of days and then i will get to work!!

Thanks also to forthripley for the advice

Plastic pipettes are fine, plastic containers will get the job done, but I can't confirm whether or not they will contaminate the spice. I know of someone who uses plastic pop bottles and has never complained about bad spice.

 

[thepureskunk]

Well exciting stuff going on!!

This morning i started my 1st ever extraction.. And its not going too bad so far!!!

I started by dividing my MHRB into half as i didn't wanna fuck up the whole batch if i made a mistake.. So i mixed 50 grams of MHRB with 50 grams of caustic soda and then added 750ml of distilled water. The whole lot was mixed and left to stand for 6 hours.

All was looking ok so far. There was a thin layer of foam but it soon went and then i added my naptha. I did 4 pulls in total using around 80ml of nap each time. The last pull was done with heated nap...nice.

I put all the pulls in my dish and then went out for a couple of hours to let the nap evap down a bit. Got back and deep joy the nap had gone really cloudy and there were crystals already around the edge of the dish!!!! 8)

I have now put the dish in my now super cold freezer...

A couple of quick Q's..

How long should i leave the dish in the freezer?
I think i can harvest the crystals ok, but if anyone has any tips...
Its now 5pm GMT. Will i be able to smoke some tonight???? :shock:

Peace and love, TPS

 

[soulman]

Lucky lucky bastard haha,
Good work man, glad it all went well for you.

SWIM normally leaves it over night, and iv read elsewhere that some people leave it 48-72hrs, but from the sounds of it, i bet you could harvest a small sample tonight. Call quality control : )

Good luck brother

 

[thepureskunk]

haha thanks soulman :d

In the end i decided to leave the spice alone till this morning..
I didn't sleep too well...excited about what was going down in my freezer :lol:

I got my dish out and it looked like i was in business.. (see pic)

Those crystals looked so white! I put the dish on its end and allowed to dry with a little help from a fan. After an hour all looked dry so i started scraping... Its mad but the crystals looked so white but when collected there is a yellow tint to the powder..

Still IMO it doesn't look to bad and it has that sorta weird smell...i'm sure i've smelt that smell somewhere before but have no idea where..

I suppose a big plus is it's weight..a good half a gram!! I have heated the nap that i had in the dish and added it to my base again and now have put it in the dish again to see if i can get anymore..

A couple of Q's..

Does this stuff look like the real deal?
Am i good to have a try??? :shock:

And i have to say that without the nexus and the hours i have spent reading i would never have got this far.. See you all in the experiances section soon!

Peace and love, TPS

 

[soulman]

Still IMO it doesn't look to bad and it has that sorta weird smell...i'm sure i've smelt that smell somewhere before but have no idea where..

Yeah, it smells kinda weird doesnt it. After much deliberation I decided it smells like a mixture between moth balls and fartspray that you get from joke shops : )

But yeah dude, that stuff looks like the spice alright. I believe the orange tint is dmt oxide, which can be got rid of via recrystalisation, but i dont think this is really necessary and I beleive you do lose a little bit of product in the process. Not entirely sure though.
Looks like you got a pretty good yeild though. How much root bark did you use for that?

Just a word of friendly advice on administration technique.
If its your first time, a lot of the precious spice can be wasted tryna find a technique to get sufficient amounts down the gullet. SWIMS first 3-4 attempts were sub par and i wasnt till he re-evaluated his tecniques and equipment that he was able to get suitably altered
So defo read up on how to do it, as it were

Will look forward to reading your reports

 

[thepureskunk]

Hey thanks for the post soulman

I only used 50G's of powder and still have my last pull in the freezer..I've just had a peek and there is some more in there!

I've been thinking of doing a recrystalisation but will try it as is first. I have read a few threads where peeps enjoyed the yellow stuff more..although the pure white has many fans as well.

Thanks for the smoking advice. What i'm gonna use is a small bong that i don't use any more. Will try some small doses first to get a feel for it. Gotta admit i'm quite nervous about a full break through!

Also ala Normans tek i used a nice Cindy99 ganja bud to wipe up the crytals on the first pull (which i couldn't scrape out of my dish)..now i have bud covered in spice. May try a joint of that later.. 8)

Peace