My first Ayahuasca trip, what went wrong?

[purepositiveenergy]

So I simmered the 15g mimosa powder a total of 6-7 hours in destilled water with some vinegar (about a tablespoon per 600 ml of water) on a very low setting (just enough to see some tiny bubbles forming like a bit of foam on the sides as I was scared to destroy alkaloids). I did three washes in total and combined the water at the end and reduced it to two shot glasses. I simmered a little over 3 grams of Syrian r. seeds, which I had put in the blender before, twice for about half an hour with destilled water and a bit of vinegar.

I took the rue tea first and about half an hour later after starting to feel the rue I took my first shot glass with about 8-9 g of mimosa as it was the biggest of the two. The mimosa slowly started to work but very mildly and stayed at this very mild fase for well over half an hour. I had vomited but not lots and it was mostly water with a tiny bit of mimosa once. Then after it had been more than an hour since I had taken the mimosa I took the other shot glass. I couldn't hold this one in for very long and I did vomit most of the mimosa out. I also had to go to the toilet and once there I wasn't able to move back to the living room since it came on very very strong and My sitter came in a few times to try and get me out of there but I was unable to respond and come. About 1.5 hours later I made it out on my own. I wasn't sure what was happening in my head it was very strong but it was just in my head, I never saw much of anything, just a few colours and also when I closed my eyes there were just a few colours. I never had any visions or went to another place even though it was strong in my head.

Once I was back in the living room I maybe passed out for an hour or two since I don't remember much else for these two hours. Then after that I put on headphones and listened to some reiki music which was nice but not that great. On a trip the music should be way way better than that. Then for another 4 or 5 hours I couldn't really sleep so I just listened to some music feeling alright but my body seemed a bit tired. Didn't sleep till the next night but was not tired just a bit spaced out all day.

So how come there were virtually no visuals, just some shimmering of colours now and then even when I closed my eyes? The reason I took it was to go somewhere and not just stay in my living room so was it to weak? But in the bathroom it was very very strong in my head. Did I maybe not take enough rue (3g) and too much mimosa or is that not possible?

Any ideas, anyone?

Kind regards,
PPE

 

[upload]

hmmm. Sounds like it should have worked, though I've never used mimosa powder. I use acrb..How long was it before you purged the first time? If you purge real early, the dmt won't be absorbed. That's the only prob I can imagine..unless you have some weak powder. Also, did you filter the tea? IME, when I've tried to drink either tea (acrb/rue) with lots of plant material, I always purge too soon. Hope that helps

 

[3rdI]

hello, purepositiveenergy

8-9g's of mimosa is quite a lot, but if you are comfortable with that dose then there's a couple of things which you might want to try

Take more rue, 3g doesn't do it for me, I use closer to 5g

Take the rue and the mimosa together, I now go for drinking together or 10 mins apart since 20-30mins seemed to produce much lighter effects.

smoke a little Changa/DMT to kick things off.

the other thing that springs to mind is that, for me, working with the brews isn't really about flashy colours and dancing elves, if im after that I would just blaze some changa as that's pretty fool proof. Don't get me wrong, Aya will produce the colourful goods, but I find that when that doesn't happen I can still take a lot from the experience, in fact I probably take just as much from the less visionary doses as I do from the visionary ones. Sometimes the visions can be distracting and mesmerising and I miss the point of the journey and fixate on the prettiness of it all.

If you were not able to leave the bathroom because you were so heavily effected then it seems to me like the brew worked fine, remember you don't always get what you want, you get what you need, ive read more than a couple of reports about people not getting visionary effects for the first few brews.

Could you elaborate on what happened in your head while in the bathroom, did you get anything from it at all?

anyway, it sounds like you are now well on your way, it will take a bit of dialling in before you perfect your brew, but I think that there's a lot to be said for working your way up through the doses.

 

[Elpo]

If you were not able to leave the bathroom because you were so heavily effected then it seems to me like the brew worked fine, remember you don't always get what you want, you get what you need, ive read more than a couple of reports about people not getting visionary effects for the first few brews.

That's what I would say as well. It is not so uncommon to feel "nothing" the first time. I have read and heard this from a lot of people.

You might try the same amount next time and have a whole other kind of experience.

 

[3rdI]

You might try the same amount next time and have a whole other kind of experience.

indeed, if that 8-9g's of mimosa kicked in properly it would be a hell of a second trip.

be careful purepositiveenergy, it gets intensely weird

 

[downwardsfromzero]

It doesn't sound to me as though your trip went wrong; maybe your expectations

It isn't always about the pretty pictures, maybe you realise.

Sometimes the cognitive language of the experience can take a little getting used to!

 

[purepositiveenergy]

Thanks a lot for your reply's everyone, I am very grateful for that. It's wonderful to have a little community like this.

To what happened in the bathroom...my mind was just racing and seeing things from lots of different perspectives as it can do on a normal trip but nothing really significant I guess but I don't remember much of it anymore. But it wasn't much fun as it was maybe a bit too strong. But I remember walking out of there and feeling ok and able to get some water from the fridge and it didn't seem that strong anymore but it probably still was since I seem to have lost the next two hours or so on the couch after that. And the rest of the night until the morning I was just lying there not really noticing much except a bit of a tired body and a pretty calm mind. When the aya came up I did have some feelings of love and appreciation coming up but again very mild.

I don't really care too much for visions per se, my main reason was to get something out of it and I really can't say that at all. So maybe I dosed it a bit too strong then with my second dose even though I did puke most of that out? I do know that after the first dose there was hardly any vomiting but I did feel fairly sick. But after the second dose there was a lot of vomiting and diarrhoea but then I did go hard on the toilet. So either I should use a little more than the 8-9g mimosa but not as much as 15 in total but I will first try it with a bit more of rue, I did think afterwards that that must have been the problem so that's probably the best guess for next time. I did filter the rue tea. So are there a lot more people who prefer taking them together? Maybe I should first try taking 5g of rue after 10 min. next time. I will be having another go in the next few weeks.

Kind regards,
PPE

 

[Ez]

It sounds like you had your first successful attempt to me. Many people try brewing Ayahuasca with no effects whatsoever.

My first brew was mimosa and rue together and not much happened. Then someone said, you can always re-dose if the first dose doesn't hit the market. Now when I make a brew, I make extra just to insure there is no failure to launch.

Sometimes one needs to simply purge a few times before Ayahuasca will unlock it's secrets for you. Be persistent, be patient.