My pharma and mushroom trips changed

[Anonymous2]

My trip starts. I enter the pharma/mushroom version of hyperspace that’s a bit more physical and less intense than how it is on vaped DMT.

I’m flying on a sled together with lovely entities or spirits. It’s a typical start of my pharma and mushroom trips. This time, everything was made of black smoke lines. It was unique and beautiful.

Soon, I’m following someone to a basement. “Following” means the camera is floating and moving there. After the basement, the camera enters a cave. It goes deeper and deeper to the ground. I thought DMT was going to show me the core of reality.

And then, in an instant, right when the essence of the trip should start, I’m back to another country where I used to live. No spirits, no aliens. I see my memories.

Except for, the memories don’t fit. Although they seem to be from this world and this life, some of them exhibit rules and conditions that couldn’t happen here. Others show me things I haven’t done here. For example, I haven’t walked in the subway tunnel from one station to another, in this life.

 

[Kumarajiva]

You are not seeing a simple fact: you gotta take a longer break between the trips to forget as much as possible to be able to restart a fresh.
Psychedelics are fueled by emotional baggage, you are burning your fuel at very high rate, in the near future it all will become very dull.

P.S.
A healthy conclusion of every trip should be something along the lines of: I don't want to do this shit no more.

 

[Anonymous2]

Edit: we discussed it on the chat, and we had a much better understanding than before

 

[Kumarajiva]

Our trips are definitely fundamentally different.
Still.
Rest is important, hence longer pause.
Emotional baggage is important - IT IS FUEL. No fuel - weak trips, everything that follows.
Spend a week to collect experiences. Burn them at the weekend during the trip. Steer in whatever direction you like.

 

[Anonymous2]

Our trips are definitely fundamentally different.
Still.
Rest is important, hence longer pause.
Emotional baggage is important - IT IS FUEL. No fuel - weak trips, everything that follows.
Spend a week to collect experiences. Burn them at the weekend during the trip. Steer in whatever direction you like.

The only thing I noticed that’s a bit similar to what you wrote was that sexual desire has a huge impact on the quality of the trip even if the trip isn’t sexual. It might be why they recommend refraining from sex before an ayahuasca trip. Although, I think it’s only the orgasm that one might want to avoid before a trip.

Allegory of the cave - Wikipedia

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[Icyseeker]

Interesting way of viewing psychedelics gogamoga. My cousin looks at them as a reset in terms of life. A chance to evaluate what you have done since you last tripped.

I am in agreement with gogamoga. You need more time in between trips that is good wisdom. Also Anonymous2 about your similar memories of yourself. Do you think that it is a red herring or do you think they have some sort of meaning in your life that you have yet to puzzle out? A view that comes to my mind might be that there is something it could be some form of premonition. Although if that is the case it is a pretty dull premonition.

Not going to lie but most of what you post I try to make sense of and just end up failing.

 

[Kumarajiva]

I am not advising you on how to act during your trip and what to do. Your trips are your own individual thing and NOONE can advise you on it.
I am advising you on two things: be ready and prepared and craving (Rest and abstinence), and bring enough fuel for higher intensity - emotional charge - do normal shit everybody else does, engage with people, get excited, get pissed get angry, get depressed get happy, go through the full human spectrum of emotions while sober. This is not to provide a content for your trip, this is to provide a fuel for the lamp that will illuminate your trip and will let you see clearly what you want to see. Its better to see something absolutely clear and unambiguous once rather then do it a dozen half-assed times.
The amount of trips that you can have in your life is limited, on any psychedelic. Its an initial deposit. You burn through it all - you got left with nothing. This is from my personal experience of 20 years of abusing various substances. Thats the reality, like it or not. Get supercharged with life - discharge everything while tripping. You wont regret it. Take care.

 

[Anonymous2]

Edit: we discussed it on the chat, and we had a much better understanding than before

 

[Kumarajiva]

1. Not talking about sex. Talking about substance moderation.
2. I read your wall of text, as hard as it was. My suggestions were to supercharge your trip, not to *sabotage* your thread.
3. You are spiraling.

P.S.
I wont post here anymore, if that annoys you so much. Have fun

P.P.S.
Judging from your other threads, we are all parts of your subconsciousness. So look at it this way: I am the part of your
sub that acts as safeguard, red-flag, self-preservation mechanism that is trying to alert you about spiraling out of control.
Maybe you will accept this notion without getting all aggressive. Its all out of genuine worry for your wellbeing.

 

[VibeSurfer]

How is it related to regaining memories of similar lives?
How would I understand the memories of I saw them less often?

You have Psychosis. Take a brake

 

[Anonymous2]

1. Not talking about sex. Talking about substance moderation.
2. I read your wall of text, as hard as it was. My suggestions were to supercharge your trip, not to *sabotage* your thread.
3. You are spiraling.

P.S.
I wont post here anymore, if that annoys you so much. Have fun

1. It’s possible I’m seeing fake memories.
2. It’s possible I am not supposed to see these memories.

 

[Anonymous2]

How is it related to regaining memories of similar lives?
How would I understand the memories of I saw them less often?

You have Psychosis. Take a brake

"Psychosis is an abnormal condition of the mind that results in difficulties determining what is real and what is not. Symptoms may include false beliefs (delusions) and seeing or hearing things that others do not see or hear (hallucinations). Other symptoms may include incoherent speech and behavior that is inappropriate for the situation. There may also be sleep problems, social withdrawal, lack of motivation, and difficulties carrying out daily activities."

Let’s see.

1. When I am sober, I am aware that I don’t know whether it’s real or not, or it is distorted.
2. When I am tripping, I am aware that I don’t know it for sure whether these memories are distorted or not.
3. I do not hear anything unreal when I am sober.
4. I do not hear anything unreal when I am on trip (since my trips are silent).
5. I do not see anything unreal when I am sober.
6. Yes, I see things on pharma and mushrooms. Everyone does. That’s why we take them.
7. My speech is normal.
8. I behave the way I did before.
9. I sleep well.
10. I am working on many things each day. I don’t even have time to play.

 

[Anonymous2]

If I should stop taking something, it’s not the psychedelics but the Golden Teachers.

 

[Anonymous2]

gogamoga, what did you mean when you said a proper trip ends with a feeling that you never want to do it again.

Can you please be more specific?

 

[Anonymous2]

I realized my trips changed soon after I started taking Lion’s Mane pills. (I started taking Chaga as well).

I did this to quit my prescribed ADD pills (see the thread about stimulants).