new member interested in ayahuasca and peganum harmala

[Corax]

(updated may 2015)
I just filled the Questionnaire and realized my presentation is very outdatted. I was only starting to experiment a deeper relation with harmal jurema last time I posted back in 2012 while it has been a bit further since.

I also realize I have been a bit shy about mushrooms in my presentation, since they allowed me to have my first break through experience, which changed me, and we still have a non intensive but regular relation.

Since my last post, my partner and I drank the jurema about thrice a week for about one year and a half (with a three month break), we still have regular jurema or ayahuasca "personal" sessions, about once a month, and we were introduced to the sacred wood from Gabon - about that I can't enter into much details. We also participated in some ceremonies with a bunch of friendly people in a "free style way".

Fact is the more I received through the plants the less relevant I feel when talking about those things !

I'm currently extremely curious about Tabernamontana Sanango, which is also why I came back to posting here (and filled that crazy Questionnaire) and still a regular reader.
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(original forgotten 2012 presentation)
Hello,

Born in the 1970s, I'm a small time ayahuesquero (I had a few two to four days sessions in different contexts) and peganum harmala afficionado (mostly adaptogen use), with a little bit of mushroom and salvia experiences, plus other less interesting and recommandable stuffs in the past (so-called stimulants and "mood enhancers" mainly) which I gladly left behind a while back.

As most readers have noticed, english is definitely not my native speaking language, so please forgive by advance my spelling mistakes and aproximate grammar.

I've heard many good thing about dmt-nexus and thought it was time to join as my life-partner and myself are starting experimenting ayahuasca on our own.

I registered on the forum because it's easier for searchs, and to follow ongoing discussions, but I'll probably keep low profile and don't plan to post a lot in the near future.

Thank you for sharing the informations on this website.

 

[endlessness]

Welcome to the Nexus!

Dont feel shy to say something if you feel you have something to say. The different points of view are very enriching, and your english seems just fine to me

I hope you find what you're looking for! Be well!

 

[ntwhtyouknw]

Welcome corax, your English sounds great to me as well. I'd love to hear about your experience with Aya.

 

[Corax]

Hello,

Thank you endlessness, I already found several detailed information about cooking I was looking for, but the links in your signatures invite me to other researches.

ntwhtyouknw > As I said "small time ayauesquero" there's not much to say in words. To sum up the most distinctive aspects that can be verbalised : I had a deeply enlightening though physically intensive first time experience with an excellent ayahuasca, three nights in a row, with a strong and talkative connexion to the vegetal world (good thing the place was surrounded by trees) but I know from experience I shall not talk too much about it ; another two nights ceremony was more a "dark side exploration" thing, if you know what I mean, that "behind your body watch the movie" sequence like watching the screen moment along with the weird fellows that resides there, and a moment of several memories (not mine) hitting me. Other times the experience was lightly visual and introspective, and at some occasion I simply fell asleep and experienced "only" the "enlightened morning after".
(not to mention the purga sickening details of course)

Some "ceremonies" were organized in a free-style approach, other were organized with people having been taught traditional techniques in Peru, with groups from 8 to 16 people.

I hope you'll find these explanations detailled enough because that's about all I can publicly say about it - I'm already feeling a bit awkward talking about something I have hard times to understand myself.

 

[Corax]

I just filled the Questionnaire (what a torture ! I would never have thought it was that long) and realize my presentation is a bit outdatted. I was starting to experiment a deeper relation with harmal jurema last time I posted back in 2012 !

I also realize I have been a bit shy about mushrooms in my presentation, since they allowed me to have my first break through experience, which changed me, and we still have a non intensive but regular relation.

Since my last post, (the following may be considered excessive or dangerous but it occurred in a spiritual approach and asked several sacrifices, both spiritually and materially, so I wouldn't advice anybody to follow the same path but there I was) my partner and I drank the jurema about thrice a week for about one year and a half (with a three month break), we still have regular jurema or ayahuasca "personal" sessions, about once a month, and we were introduced to the sacred wood from Gabon - about that I can't enter into much details. We also participated in some ceremonies with a bunch of friendly people in a "free style way".

Fact is the more I received through the plants the less relevant I feel when talking about those things !

I'm currently extremely curious about Tabernamontana Sanango, which is also why I came back to posting here (and filled that crazy Questionnaire) and still a regular reader.

 

[travsha]

You are an Ayahuasquero? That means you heal others with Ayahuasca? (Ayahuasquero = Ayahuasca shaman who usually has years of experience and heals other people with Ayahuasca) I am a little confused because you said you dont have much experience, but Ayahuasquero usually means you have lots of experience....

I find all of the sanangos really interesting.... Why does Tabernamontana specifically interest you? I havent heard much about that one...

I am really interested in chiric sanango (more common and seems a good plant for anyone) and also another called uchu sanango (has ibogaine and similar alkaloids in it). Uchu sanango especially sounds rough though - I think I need to work my way up to that one, and I would only try it in the Amazon I think....

I have been connecting a bit with North American plants through dieta - and I think some of them are local counterparts to the Amazonian plants.... I think Devils Club up here might be a local equivalent of the sanangos - similar smell in some way, and something about the energy when I hold it feels a little similar.... I think I am going to try a diet of devils club soon - I have a bunch I harvested I have been saving for that purpose....

I think we are into pretty similar plants though - I also really like mushrooms and salvia.... Do you chew or smoke the salvia? I started with smoking, but switched to chewing and I dont think I will ever smoke her again since I discovered chewing.... I have gotten a lot of deep healing from her though - I think she is very under-appreciated....

 

[Corax]

Hello,

You are an Ayahuasquero? That means you heal others with Ayahuasca? (Ayahuasquero = Ayahuasca shaman who usually has years of experience and heals other people with Ayahuasca) I am a little confused because you said you dont have much experience, but Ayahuasquero usually means you have lots of experience....

sorry I don't use that word in that sense, I meant it as a shortcut for "regular practionner of ayahuasca", not implying being a "curandero" or even an apprentice. I didn't have much experience with ayahuasca when I first posted, I have still a very little experience but a bit more than then, or I'd rather formulate it this way : I'm much more aware of my ignorance's extent today.

As for the praxis dimension of ayahuasca, as I currently understand it body healing is only one aspect, conversations with and teachings from the "other side" is a wider view of ayahuasca and psychedelics. Anyway I won't use the "ayahuesquero" term anymore, would I introduce myself today I wouldn't use it anyway.

I find all of the sanangos really interesting.... Why does Tabernamontana specifically interest you? I havent heard much about that one...

because some iboga alkaloids are present there and because I've heard very interesting private reports about its use, and also several words of caution because of the power of this plant and the risks of ingesting them, especially in combination with others.

I am really interested in chiric sanango (more common and seems a good plant for anyone) and also another called uchu sanango (has ibogaine and similar alkaloids in it). Uchu sanango especially sounds rough though - I think I need to work my way up to that one, and I would only try it in the Amazon I think....

As I understood, there are several species called "sanango", one being a solanacea (chiric sanango, Brunfelsia grandiflora), which I will avoid, the other being the tabernaemontanas species (such as (?) uchu sanango). Litterature is scarce about this subject. The names used are a bit confusing though and one is sometimes used for the other so I won't pretend I'm at ease with the traditional names because I'm not and I'm not convinced many people are, I'd rather speak of the Tabernaemontana Sanango/Sananho to avoid errors (which I have seen called "chiric sanango").

I have been connecting a bit with North American plants through dieta - and I think some of them are local counterparts to the Amazonian plants.... I think Devils Club up here might be a local equivalent of the sanangos - similar smell in some way, and something about the energy when I hold it feels a little similar.... I think I am going to try a diet of devils club soon - I have a bunch I harvested I have been saving for that purpose....

I don't know the Oplopanax horridus, never met it, thanks for the information, it looks interesting.

I think we are into pretty similar plants though - I also really like mushrooms and salvia.... Do you chew or smoke the salvia?

both, but these days I mostly grow the salvia, and smoke it during ayahuasca or jurema ceremonies (which makes it completely different) mixed with chali and harmal. I also prepared salvia tinctures which I like a lot and also took at small doses during jurema ceremonies.

I have gotten a lot of deep healing from her though - I think she is very under-appreciated....

I totally second your opinion, tincture is particularly efficient for this healing aspect, although it may be hard on the gums when done too often, works for many things including certain toothaches (no source here, just a personal experimentation, maybe - this is a wild guess - is it related to its antibacterial properties) - of course it can't be used as a standard drug but ritualizing its use, to unleash the healing potential it looks important to lead it towards what you need to heal. Smoking harmal before or with salvia helps a lot.