I can't access the paper, so don't know the methodology; in particular, whether the mental health score was based on self-reports or measured using objective criteria (and what exactly those were).dithyramb said:Thank you. What to make of men in the general population having a higher rate of good mental health...?
L-dreamer said:I have lots of issues with the picture posted in the OP, and it seems to have too many biases. For example something like "positive perception of health" doesn't mean anything at the end of the day. The picture doesn't even prove a correlation or causation, does it just try to be some sort of propaganda piece? "Drink ayahuasca and you too will have a lower cholesterol!" Was this the intent?
That's a good question: What was the intent behind this infographic? It certainly is unclear and can be interpreted in many ways, most of them incomplete. I also have lots of issues with it.L-dreamer said:I have lots of issues with the picture posted in the OP, and it seems to have too many biases. For example something like "positive perception of health" doesn't mean anything at the end of the day. The picture doesn't even prove a correlation or causation, does it just try to be some sort of propaganda piece? "Drink ayahuasca and you too will have a lower cholesterol!" Was this the intent?
RhythmSpring said:That's a good question: What was the intent behind this infographic? It certainly is unclear and can be interpreted in many ways, most of them incomplete. I also have lots of issues with it.L-dreamer said:I have lots of issues with the picture posted in the OP, and it seems to have too many biases. For example something like "positive perception of health" doesn't mean anything at the end of the day. The picture doesn't even prove a correlation or causation, does it just try to be some sort of propaganda piece? "Drink ayahuasca and you too will have a lower cholesterol!" Was this the intent?
It also goes to show that Ayahuasca, a matter of spirit, in my view, cannot be pigeon-holed in and quantified well by modern science. We like to throw numbers around to try to appease and appeal to wider/whiter audiences, but in actuality Ayahuasca is way more about intention and the tumultuous, mysterious zone within the human heart between choice and subconscious to register clearly in the caffeine-driven (c)annals of science.
Just want to join the crowd. It's not the substance that will rid you from your problems but the wisdom and knowledge you put into it's use and the conclusions you make from your insights. Somewhy this seems to be completely out of the medical paradigm where the potential health value of psychedelics is evaluated.Voidmatrix said:RhythmSpring said:That's a good question: What was the intent behind this infographic? It certainly is unclear and can be interpreted in many ways, most of them incomplete. I also have lots of issues with it.L-dreamer said:I have lots of issues with the picture posted in the OP, and it seems to have too many biases. For example something like "positive perception of health" doesn't mean anything at the end of the day. The picture doesn't even prove a correlation or causation, does it just try to be some sort of propaganda piece? "Drink ayahuasca and you too will have a lower cholesterol!" Was this the intent?
It also goes to show that Ayahuasca, a matter of spirit, in my view, cannot be pigeon-holed in and quantified well by modern science. We like to throw numbers around to try to appease and appeal to wider/whiter audiences, but in actuality Ayahuasca is way more about intention and the tumultuous, mysterious zone within the human heart between choice and subconscious to register clearly in the caffeine-driven (c)annals of science.
Yup! Can't quantify intention, and intention is what will lead to these "benefits" when working with Aya.
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Tomtegubbe said:Just want to join the crowd. It's not the substance that will rid you from your problems but the wisdom and knowledge you put into it's use and the conclusions you make from your insights. Somewhy this seems to be completely out of the medical paradigm where the potential health value of psychedelics is evaluated.Voidmatrix said:RhythmSpring said:That's a good question: What was the intent behind this infographic? It certainly is unclear and can be interpreted in many ways, most of them incomplete. I also have lots of issues with it.L-dreamer said:I have lots of issues with the picture posted in the OP, and it seems to have too many biases. For example something like "positive perception of health" doesn't mean anything at the end of the day. The picture doesn't even prove a correlation or causation, does it just try to be some sort of propaganda piece? "Drink ayahuasca and you too will have a lower cholesterol!" Was this the intent?
It also goes to show that Ayahuasca, a matter of spirit, in my view, cannot be pigeon-holed in and quantified well by modern science. We like to throw numbers around to try to appease and appeal to wider/whiter audiences, but in actuality Ayahuasca is way more about intention and the tumultuous, mysterious zone within the human heart between choice and subconscious to register clearly in the caffeine-driven (c)annals of science.
Yup! Can't quantify intention, and intention is what will lead to these "benefits" when working with Aya.
One love