A discussion on sages beyond ones with salvinorin a would be very nice indeed. I had read an article years ago mentioning the existence of many psychedelic sages, and that salvinorin a is not the only goodie (diterpene) that Salvias produce. I hadn't been able to find that article again, or a mention that S. verbenaca is active anywhere. I had concluded that it's most likely a genetic variation in that locality, but who knows.

Its been years since I experienced S. verbenaca, as I had decided that this particular plant is not ideal for me as it left me quite disoriented in the next days, but of course people change, their awareness and way of being and relating change, so I could try it again one day. The effect was very inside pulling (just like salvinorin a) but I don't recall a strong somatic effect like S A. Very ecstatic, visual enhancement, channeling of songs, sometimes even dancing. Thought got very disrupted on higher doses. Somehow I had the impression that it also is a K opioid agonist. As for how is it different from tropanes, it does not give any tropane side effects no matter how high the dose, and no delirium, but rather a complete shut down of thought. That's a practical explanation, but in the end, I felt the sage energy behind it and the similarities to S A in effect and feel. One difference from S A was that it appeared readily water soluble and bioavailable.

For now my favorite active sages are S. absconditiflora and S. sclarea.

Any possible further discussion shall be done on a potential Sage thread to not disrupt the nightshades thread :⁠-⁠)

Thank you for the links and resources, Transform!