Psychexplorer7260
Rising Star
Hey everyone,
I have been attempting to breakthrough using a Yocan Evolve pen and have come up short after a number of attempts. As I am beginning to waste spice, I’m trying to settle on an alternative delivery method and I’m hoping this community can help me determine what my best route might be. First, a brief history of my recent experiences.
I began with small doses in the 10-15mg range to get a feel for the substance before diving in headfirst. My technique with the Yocan is as follows: I will weigh out my dosage and load it into the coil (I have experimented with both ceramic donut as well as the default dual quartz). I pulse the button quickly to melt the spice. I put the mouthpiece to my lips and slowly inhale while pulsing the button - I have tried a number of pulse rates but never settled on a rate that seemed to work better than any of the others.
I believe I got the most out of the lower dosages - a heavy/uncomfortable body load (something I eventually got used to and became more comfortable with over time). Mild CEVs. Some very mild “light tunnel” effect. Objects appeared crisper around the room (“HD vision”). Some buzzing in ears. Could notice a perspective change with eyes closed. Felt like I was sort of zooming in and out and like I had a field of vision even with eyes closed. Like I could sense depth even though I couldn’t really see any defined 3D space. Hard to explain but it definitely felt like even with my eyes closed I could sense a 3-dimensional space around me.
After a couple separate sessions at these low dosages I decided to go for a complete breakthrough. I had read enough people talk about the waiting room often being an uncomfortable experience while you still have one foot in the DMT world and another out. I tried 40mg first.
I experienced some very mild body dissociation. Very strong CEVs. Visuals weren’t clear but very active/colorful. They were a bit “dim,” not very bright, but strongest CEVs I’ve probably ever experienced with any psychedelic (have experience with LSD, mushrooms, and MDMA). Experienced a feeling of calmness and surrender. Some mild discomfort being in that state for long time (continued hitting pen throughout the session trying to get deeper). OEVs were standard - like any psychedelic trip, sharp/defined edges (“HD Vision”) and flowing patterns.
A bit disappointed I waited another 24 hours and attempted to blast off again. But this time I upped the dose to 60mg, thinking it would ensure a successful breakthrough. I did everything the same and only experienced slightly more intense effects compared to the 40mg attempt. The visuals were much more vivid this time. At one point I experienced a very slight sensation of falling backwards into something with eyes closed. I also remember feeling like I could see some entities cheering me on to take another toke. Sort of beckoning me to take one more step towards a breakthrough. I did not really have any auditory hallucinations, however. No buzzing or anything. I continued to rip the pen and I would refuel the CEVs but I could never even reach the waiting room.
I’m fairly convinced at this point that I’m just not hitting the Yocan properly. I have experimented fairly extensively with pulsing the button at different rates of speed, as well as my inhalation technique. I suspect my primary issue is that I’m not inhaling enough vapor quick enough. So I’m either not inhaling hard/fast enough or I’m not vaporizing the product fast enough. I typically haven’t experienced too much harshness during inhalation, so I don’t think burning is the issue. If anything, I may not be holding the button long enough out of fear of burning it.
Based on extensive research, I’ve decided dabbing it might be my best bet moving forward. Ideally, this would ensure that I’m taking in enough vapor, as I should clear the pipe in 1-2 big hits.
Ultimately, I’m curious to hear from others who were unsuccessful with the Yocan Evolve but found success using another device. I have looked into the GVG and nectar collectors as well but don’t want to waste anymore spice trying to learn a new administration technique. The dab rig seems to be the most fool-proof method out there. I’ve already checked out some of the guides here on the Nexus for dabbing and it seems pretty straight forward. Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
I have been attempting to breakthrough using a Yocan Evolve pen and have come up short after a number of attempts. As I am beginning to waste spice, I’m trying to settle on an alternative delivery method and I’m hoping this community can help me determine what my best route might be. First, a brief history of my recent experiences.
I began with small doses in the 10-15mg range to get a feel for the substance before diving in headfirst. My technique with the Yocan is as follows: I will weigh out my dosage and load it into the coil (I have experimented with both ceramic donut as well as the default dual quartz). I pulse the button quickly to melt the spice. I put the mouthpiece to my lips and slowly inhale while pulsing the button - I have tried a number of pulse rates but never settled on a rate that seemed to work better than any of the others.
I believe I got the most out of the lower dosages - a heavy/uncomfortable body load (something I eventually got used to and became more comfortable with over time). Mild CEVs. Some very mild “light tunnel” effect. Objects appeared crisper around the room (“HD vision”). Some buzzing in ears. Could notice a perspective change with eyes closed. Felt like I was sort of zooming in and out and like I had a field of vision even with eyes closed. Like I could sense depth even though I couldn’t really see any defined 3D space. Hard to explain but it definitely felt like even with my eyes closed I could sense a 3-dimensional space around me.
After a couple separate sessions at these low dosages I decided to go for a complete breakthrough. I had read enough people talk about the waiting room often being an uncomfortable experience while you still have one foot in the DMT world and another out. I tried 40mg first.
I experienced some very mild body dissociation. Very strong CEVs. Visuals weren’t clear but very active/colorful. They were a bit “dim,” not very bright, but strongest CEVs I’ve probably ever experienced with any psychedelic (have experience with LSD, mushrooms, and MDMA). Experienced a feeling of calmness and surrender. Some mild discomfort being in that state for long time (continued hitting pen throughout the session trying to get deeper). OEVs were standard - like any psychedelic trip, sharp/defined edges (“HD Vision”) and flowing patterns.
A bit disappointed I waited another 24 hours and attempted to blast off again. But this time I upped the dose to 60mg, thinking it would ensure a successful breakthrough. I did everything the same and only experienced slightly more intense effects compared to the 40mg attempt. The visuals were much more vivid this time. At one point I experienced a very slight sensation of falling backwards into something with eyes closed. I also remember feeling like I could see some entities cheering me on to take another toke. Sort of beckoning me to take one more step towards a breakthrough. I did not really have any auditory hallucinations, however. No buzzing or anything. I continued to rip the pen and I would refuel the CEVs but I could never even reach the waiting room.
I’m fairly convinced at this point that I’m just not hitting the Yocan properly. I have experimented fairly extensively with pulsing the button at different rates of speed, as well as my inhalation technique. I suspect my primary issue is that I’m not inhaling enough vapor quick enough. So I’m either not inhaling hard/fast enough or I’m not vaporizing the product fast enough. I typically haven’t experienced too much harshness during inhalation, so I don’t think burning is the issue. If anything, I may not be holding the button long enough out of fear of burning it.
Based on extensive research, I’ve decided dabbing it might be my best bet moving forward. Ideally, this would ensure that I’m taking in enough vapor, as I should clear the pipe in 1-2 big hits.
Ultimately, I’m curious to hear from others who were unsuccessful with the Yocan Evolve but found success using another device. I have looked into the GVG and nectar collectors as well but don’t want to waste anymore spice trying to learn a new administration technique. The dab rig seems to be the most fool-proof method out there. I’ve already checked out some of the guides here on the Nexus for dabbing and it seems pretty straight forward. Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
