No Sex 3 Days Before Take Off? But why?

[lorax]

The shamans say that it angers the spirits to have sex before, because they don't have the luxury of sex because they don't have a body.

There must be something happening in our body which deprives us from certain chemicals when having sex which are necessary for deep psychedelic adventures.

I myself have found that an orgasm feels like all spiritual energy is being emitted at once and one is left with a less emotional less sensitive sort of perception.

I would like to find out exactly what happens here, which chemicals we are being deprived of from having sex.. could we possibly eat certain foods to build up more spiritual energy for deep psychedelic adventures. Which foods / chemicals would we need to take?

I have read about shamans eating alot of fish and bananas when isolating themselves in the jungle for psychedelic initiation. Fish and bananas are very rich in serotonin. Might the key just lie in the serotonin levels which are present at the time of the trip?

post your thoughts!

 

[gosvami]

Ceech, let me try to explain, why I practice the sexual abstinent before travelling.
Not because santo daime curch or ancient shamans or kabala or any religion recommend so. And the chemical reactions and the hormonal changes, that may occur, then I stay abstinent, don’t interest me at all.
I do it for another reason.

I liked to receive the light, that the hyperspace beings give to me. I enjoyed that gift. And another form of receiving this light and enjoying it is our sexuality. The only different is that in this case the light is masked in a sort of materialistic veil, the light is masked in “flesh” (I understand the whole universe as masked hyperspyce, you know.).
Ok.
I was happy to receive the light and to enjoy it. But some day I came to a certain point of my personal progressing and I had to ask myself: “hey, I RECEIVE from them, but what the hell can I GIVE back? And I realised, that I can give absolutely nothing. And I was deeply ashamed! And so I decided to refuse the gift of the beings, and refuse the gift of sexual pleasure as well, because it’s another form of receiving the light, so deeply ashamed I was, then I realised, that I can give absolutely nothing…and I realised, that receiving the light without giving something back means: “feeding my ego”!
Ok.
So I tried to dissolve my “ego” by refusing the gift. But I noticed, that this wasn’t a good strategy, because the hyperspace beings created me, because they wanted to give their light to their creatures, they want to give us their gift. It is the greatest pleasure and joy for them, to give us their light. And by refusing their light, I cause some sort of misbalance in hyperspace and in the creation of hyperspace, called “world”. And so I had to admit, that refusing the gift because I feel ashamed, that I can give nothing back, is another form of “feeding my ego”.
Ok.
So nowadays I don’t refuse the gift, i receive it just like in the beginning, but nowadays i try to receive the gift not just to enjoy the pleasure of receiving, that would be a shame! No,I receive, because then I receive, I give the hyperspace beings the possibility to feel the joy, that they feel, then they give me their light. With this in mind I don’t feel ashamed any longer and I don’t feed my ego any longer.
Ok.
Same way I try to handle my sexuality. Receiving the pleasure without giving something back, means: “feeding the ego”. Staying abstinent 3 (or better 5) days before and after the dmt-journey reminds me, how difficult it is, not to feed the ego (if you don’t believe this, try it and you will see) and tunes me into the “right conviction” ” for the journey, it immunises me somehow for the danger of feeding my ego while I’m tripping. I believe so!
that’s all!

 

[flyboy]

Warning: Too much free web porn before hitting the spice = tits in hyperspace.

 

[Noman]

Yeah, I smoked some once when there was porn on the TV and it was the weirdest thing.

The shamans say that it angers the spirits to have sex before, because they don't have the luxury of sex because they don't have a body.

Fuck 'em. If they get jealous of our bodies, then they're no spirits to have around in the first place.
Can't have spirits getting uppity yanno.

 

[gosvami]

flyboy!no.no.no. that's not true! too much free web porn before hitting the spice = fisting in hyperspace, uuuuuh yea!

by the way, everybody knows it but nobody admits:

we like this
8)

noman, you unlucky guy. why didn't you sleep whith your girlfriend instead of watching a trashy porn while smoking the spice, he? she may transform herself in divine kali,hehehe. funny thing!

 

[Noman]

You have the creepiest avatar I've ever seen.

 

[Pranic]

May I suggest learning about sacred sexuality, especially to all males

Synergy Explorers

Synergy Explorers presents the world’s traditions that recorded approaches to sex advising conscious, careful cultivation of sexual energy

www.reuniting.info

In short: during lovemaking (not aiming for procreation), ejaculation means "paradise lost" -- avoiding it means you just stay in paradise..

You can try that approach and see how the spirits react next time.

 

[lorax]

thats some nice opinions you got there gosvami. haha.. good ol' cthulu!

i know what you mean gosvami.. theres alot more psychedelics can give you when you don't have sex before. for me they have deeper meaning. i never have sex for at least 3 days before.. sometimes even 2 weeks. i used to drink only water and eat only fruit 3 days before tripping. i still do this but only when taking MAOi - i get nicer experiences with it, because my body already has been cleaned.. that way it only needs to clean my soul. i always just did it like that.. never asked myself why. but living at the edge of nothing is the nearest you can get to paradise.

as a matter of fact..i don't like porn..(i am probably the only male in the area who doesn't) i think its disgusting how women will do just about anything for money.. my girl will do just about anything for me, because she loves me.. not because i'm rich.. but maybe i'm just lucky with my girl. theres alotta greedy women out there who see sex as a kind of payment. fuck those bitches!

 

[obliguhl]

Fuck 'em. If they get jealous of our bodies, then they're no spirits to have around in the first place.
Can't have spirits getting uppity yanno.

Hyperspace alien talk: Fuck em if they are jealous of beeing in these high astral planes. If they're jealous of standig outside of time and space they're no body beeings to have around in the first place!

I think for Salvia Divinorum one has t obe abstinent for 55 days. Can you imagine that ?

 

[Noman]

I think for Salvia Divinorum one has t obe abstinent for 55 days. Can you imagine that ?

Who came up with that?
All this abstinence and aceticism sounds just like Abrahamic dogma to me. We have this body for right now. It will die and then we won't have it anymore, so for right now we're supposed to use it.
Eat, fuck, play. That's what it's for.

 

[obliguhl]

But if these beeings are interested in our sexual energys? I mean, your girlfriend would surely be pleased if you'd release your "sexual energy" on..well, let me stop here :lol:

Who came up with that?

Read it in a magazine article someone uploaded...

 

[gosvami]

I am I am to come I was
I was I was to come I am
I am
I am
I am to come !

yep!

 

[EZ4U2Shoot]

I'm sorry. I don't subscribe to that one.


There is no better feeling than smoking through about 800mg of Spice mixed w/ 200mg freebase harmaloids while the pretty lady is suckling on my ===>o: and when it's ===>{()} Dude... I LOVE IT!!!

I can understand "Don't have sex before or on the Spice." But trust me, Making Love while on the Spice is absolutely THE MOST BEAUTIFUL EXPERIENCE you will ever have.


I will add: I have tried it both ways. With or without sex, I believe it is a matter of preference. Personally, I smoke mega doses because I LOVE IT and when your entire body is writhing in orgasm it doesn't really matter if you have had sex beforehand or not. But to do it at the same time... to have a thousand full body physical and spiritual mind fracked orgasms while Spicing at the same time your lover is is loving you is just ... well ... there just isn't anything like it and words couldn't come close enough to describe it.

 

[gosvami]

I'm sorry. I don't subscribe to that one.

Why are you sorry for your own opinion?
We move through time and space and progress in time and space.
Tomorrow you may have a totally different opinion.
So we should be wise and realise that our momentary, personal, special opinion is ok, and so is the opposite opinion. There is no need to be sorry for contrary conceptions…then we realise that every conception needs the contrary, polar conception, like night need day, black need with, good need bad and right need wrong. Only because every thing and point of view has its opposite, it becomes part of the (universal) truth.

So, fuck the shit out of your girlfriends’ ass while tripping….
Or stay abstinent before and after tripping….
Both are all right.
That’s what I think.