no visuals?

[ramtimram]

I did DMT yesterday and today for the first time. I didn't do a huge dose, but it was pretty decent. I tripped very hard but did not see any visuals, other than at one point in both trips, I saw a pattern come out of the curtains, and they waved and morphed around, it was pretty intense, but not what I was expecting. I closed my eyes and saw nothing but blackness. but my body felt completely bizarre, my mind felt all warped, sounds were warping, and time was completely changed. what felt like 5 or 10 minutes was 5 seconds according to my friend. I cant explain it but the way it felt was so intense.

I put a layer of weed in a vapour genie and then put DMT on that. and vaped it like that. it wasn't a glass vapour genie, just a normal one. I took 3 or 4 big hits and held them for as long as I could (probably about 20 to 30 seconds).
My friend thinks that I was burning it to much which was ruining it, is that possible? I read on here not to worry about that with the vapour genie. He saw stuff, but no where near as intense as we had in mind.
I have read about the vapour genie on here, but like I said the only thing about the temperature I saw was to not worry about it getting to hot and burning.

Maybe I just need to do more, but I couldn't imagine my body feeling much weirder. and I thought the visuals would have been the first thing to show up, and be more intense, as it is a very visual drug. so this got me thinking maybe it was 5meo DMT. that would explain a lot. how would I know if it was 5meo?

another possibility could be that I am just not a visual person, every one is different.
I was also thinking maybe I was looking in the wrong place, like I was looking at the blackness of the back of my eye lids, to really see something. do you only see it in your imagination? and I just have been taking peoples reports too literally?

Don't get me wrong though, it was a beautiful experience, in fact probably better than if I had seen visuals. it was so therapeutical, it seemed to give me anxiety and then teach me how it isn't a big deal, and how to deal with it and turn it off. I feel so much less anxious in all of my life now. and I am very interested In visuals, so maybe it didn't give them to me as well because I would have focused on them to much and not realised this other gift. I have heard people say that it gives you what you need, not what you want/expect.

thanks to anyone who has read this long post! I tried to keep it as short as possible. any advice or information would be great

 

[Jin]

smoalk it all in one hit

 

[DoingKermit]

You are right about everyone being different and therefore can react differently to DMT. I have a friend who has never really had highly visual Aya experiences, but still has profound, life-changing journeys nonetheless. I also find that people get so hung up on what to expect from the experience, through reading loads of experience reports, it can leave them feeling underwhelmed. The less expectation the better IMO.

In regards to whether or not what you smoked was DMT. If it was 5meo, you would have only needed a tiny amount (i.e. 10mg) compared to NN DMT (25mg). Did you weigh your doses? Have you thought of trying out an extraction? At least you know exactly what you are taking if you perform an extraction yourself.

Weighing your dose, plus perfecting your smoking technique, will help immensely in this situation I believe. Changa in a bong is my preferred ROA... It is pretty much foolproof.

Good luck and stay safe

 

[ramtimram]

You are right about everyone being different and therefore can react differently to DMT. I have a friend who has never really had highly visual Aya experiences, but still has profound, life-changing journeys nonetheless. I also find that people get so hung up on what to expect from the experience, through reading loads of experience reports, it can leave them feeling underwhelmed. The less expectation the better IMO.

In regards to whether or not what you smoked was DMT. If it was 5meo, you would have only needed a tiny amount (i.e. 10mg) compared to NN DMT (25mg). Did you weigh your doses? Have you thought of trying out an extraction? At least you know exactly what you are taking if you perform an extraction yourself.

Weighing your dose, plus perfecting your smoking technique, will help immensely in this situation I believe. Changa in a bong is my preferred ROA... It is pretty much foolproof.

Good luck and stay safe

yeah something intense definitely did happen to me, I don't even know what happened haha. like it is because the memory has gone a bit, but also because I didn't even know while it was happening. but I do specifically remember looking at the blackness for a long time and there just being nothing, which I did not think would be possible!

we got a point, and put a small amount in there, maybe a tenth of that, and shared it, this didn't do much but we felt good and a little weird and laughed. it was a good prep. A while later (atleast an hour) my mate did on his own, more than we did together that time. then I did the same. and then the next day we split what was left, which was even more, a fair bit more than the last time. So the last 2 times each we didn't share it, like we re loaded it for the next person.
So I would say the largest doses we did would have been somewhere between 20 and 30 mg, but that's just a guess. I would have weighed it, but I don't have good enough scales.

I have considered extracting my own, infact I have all the stuff and am hoping to do it soon, that is how we were going to do it. but then we got offered some and couldn't resist.
And yes I have heard about change, it sounds great! by change do you mean DMT on weed or some other herb, or on a specific herb with an MAOI in it?

thanks for the advise