"Normal" Person Walking Up On You Right After Partaking

[DisEmboDied]

One of my biggest nightmares is that some normal person would accidentally walk up on me right after I hit the God Dust, being in some sort of natural setting, like a cliff or near a pool or lake or the like, and then I wouldn't be able to respond to them, or maybe I could mumble for them to come back in 5 minutes haha.

I prefer to be in nature when I partake, I know a watcher would make it easier but I prefer to be alone.

Has anyone had the experience of someone “normal” like a parent or a square walk up on you right after partaking, in private or in a public place? My nightmare has never come true (yet) but it would be interesting to know the stories of others who it has happened to :0

Dont DMT and drive.

~Love and Light

 

[ys]

Closest I've ever come is to have my friend unexpectedly ring my doorbell...hes not a square so it wasn't as bad as it could've been. I sat at the top of the stairs for awhile and then let him in :?:

 

[spacexplorer]

hmmm interesting fear, but usually normal people will stand by if they see you are incapacitated or you hold your hand up for them to wait, hold on a second unless they have some malicious intent

 

[cubeananda]

like a cliff or near a pool or lake or the like,

honestly bro both of those examples are specifically mentioned in the attitude section as places NOT to smoke DMT.

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edit:

No discussion about taking entheogens in an unsafe or irresponsible setting
Taking entheogens in a place where it is clearly not safe, either physically and/or legally, is not supported by the DMT-Nexus. For this we do not condone discussion of taking entheogens in (semi) public places or where the location is outright dangerous for the person taking the entheogen like on the ledge of a cliff or the top of a building.

mkay the water bodies isnt mentioned, and to stay on topic with the OP

It hasn't happened to me, but yeah there's a reason public places aren't condoned.


But i'll link the forum posts about why bodies of water are very much advised against.

Oly- I lost a friend. dmt and setting was the reason.

 

[arcologist]

Never have I had such an experience because I always smoked DMT at home alone. However, I've sometimes had bad trips where I believe that "oh shit the cops raided me just as I smoked DMT", complete with flashing blue/red lights and the thought that I'm being wheeled out to an ambulance because I'm unresponsive. I keep saying to them, "just wait a few minutes and I'll be normal, no need for alarm."

 

[DisEmboDied]

wow arcologist, that is a real bad one! haha

 

[fathomlessness]

I was sitting alone in the Forrest with my dog about to take a big hit and then I notice a man has walked off the path and is walking to me. He was convinced I was out there to bury my dog and warned me that he had pepper spray on him. I told him I wasn't that I loved my dog and wasn't that sort of person and tried to get out of there as soon as possible. Isolation seems pretty safe because the real danger of being in a city is the actual amount of evil people that could potential do you harm being in such close proximity to you, whereas if you are in nature you effectively reduce the number of those people to 0. However, if by the very rare scenario that one does happen to cross you while you are both in isolation then it is like getting eaten by a shark in the middle of the ocean. I think this applies especially for solo female travelers who have the potential to be raped unlike men. Whenever I wander in to unknown territory I do take a weapon with me just in case and that is my enormous capacity for reason

 

[MasonJarBong]

I think this applies especially for solo female travelers who have the potential to be raped unlike men.

Although the risk of being raped is much higher for females, males are also at risk. It all depends upon the predilections of the predator. We should all be safe and aware of our environs. Don't mean to nitpick.

 

[Asher7]

Strange thread man. I'm to scared to hit dmt when alone in my apartment at 3am so I'd be out of my mind to go outside. I don't even know why you would want to do that.

When I was a kid I took a bunch of dxm and had a lady walk in on me all bugged out. I guess I pulled it off, I never asked. Dmt scares me man. Swim took a thousand mics of acid the other day but is afraid of dmt. That says something.

 

[DisEmboDied]

When outside it is better to only do low to medium doses for sure, for me, but that is funny, scared to do dmt alone inside an apartment at 3 am---there is not enough locks on the doors! muhaha

I used to do 60mg doses twice a week for like 2 years, then low to medium doses for a few more years, these days I am petrified to do a high dose, scares the shit out of me just the thought of it, even though I miss it.

But light reminder doses in nature are still awesome, very awesoome

 

[fathomlessness]

I think this applies especially for solo female travelers who have the potential to be raped unlike men.

Although the risk of being raped is much higher for females, males are also at risk. It all depends upon the predilections of the predator. We should all be safe and aware of our environs. Don't mean to nitpick.

Sorry, I didn't think about male->male anal rape. I was specifically referring to the fact that a woman can not rape a man as she can not force him to get an erection. Although this may sound a bit weird, out of my sexual loneliness I actually wouldn't mind being raped by a female if it was physically possible. It seems to me that the way courting occurs predominately within the human and other primate species is that the male initiates the proceedings which oftentimes make me feel as if I would much rather not put in so much effort and have the female come on to me but alas, nature has made this physically impossible due to the fact that it is hard (virtually impossible imo) to not consent to sex whitest being aroused physically (as a man) and that as the physically stronger sex, it would be unlikely that a man would not be able to over-power a women to stop her breeding with him. Seems like nature is gender-biased... i find that offensive nature, how dare you!

 

[fathomlessness]

I used to do 60mg doses twice a week for like 2 years, then low to medium doses for a few more years, these days I am petrified to do a high dose, scares the shit out of me just the thought of it, even though I miss it.

That is interesting that even after smoking high doses for such a long time, it is near impossible to become accustomed to it all and not be scared by it. The same is not true for people who learn to skydive but it is true for people who get the heart broken constantly in multiple relationships.

 

[entheogenic-gnosis]

[youtube]

Seems like the exact situation the original post was describing, except McKenna was in the safety of his home...

In this video excerpt Terrence is speaking about living in a building, he thought his landlord was not in town, so he takes some LSD and smokes some DMT at the peak of the LSD, by chance the landlord comes home, and is banging on his door, so he begins belting out glossolalia and slams the door in her face... in the Starwood '94 (3/3) version McKenna continues to describe hiding under the bed after slamming the door, I'm not sure about the version which I posted...

-eg

 

[null24]

Never have I had such an experience because I always smoked DMT at home alone. However, I've sometimes had bad trips where I believe that "oh shit the cops raided me just as I smoked DMT", complete with flashing blue/red lights and the thought that I'm being wheeled out to an ambulance because I'm unresponsive. I keep saying to them, "just wait a few minutes and I'll be normal, no need for alarm."

You too? Only diif for me is that I (hallucinated that i ) was being lifeflighted for some reason. Lol.
Yeah, uh, no. If i smoalk in nature, it is at a special spot deep in the forest park that is a two hour hike, the last part of which is off-trail. If someone came up on me back there, id be stunned.

 

[brilliantlydim]

I have this same fear. As others have mentioned, I think the best strategy is to have a sitter and a plan in place incase someone does happen to come by. Having them take the paraphernalia away after administration is a good idea.

I would avoid the seizure story though as it may be a cause for alarm from the passer by. When I blast off, I could pretty much pass for napping so thats the story I would go with. Of course sometimes we can be pretty groggy when we just awaken from a nap as well

As for the potential malevolence of a passerby, I never rule out the possibly and like to have some preparedness ready in case of such an instance. But we must drop our guard at some points in time in order to experience things like a hyperspace trip in the middle of remote nature. Probably a safer place than most considering, but you can always do small things to make the chances of something bad happening even less.

Don't make yourself an easy target. If you are sufficiently away from a path, the chances that someone is going to come close to you is pretty slim. If they do, chances are they are't in the middle of nowhere looking for victims.

Don't make yourself look like an easy or valuable target, this goes for pretty much anywhere and time. Don't look like you have much to give, or that it will be given easy. Your attitude, alertness, confidence in your surrounding are all subtle cues that would be predators pick up and and use to determine risk/reward ratios.

Always carry at least a good knife while out in nature. This is a great tool for many reasons, not limited to but definitely including self defence.

All in all I think its probably safer in general than a lot of activities most of us take for granted as long as you are aware of possible problems that may arise and prepare for them accordingly.

 

[entheogenic-gnosis]

I have smoked DMT at the top of an LSD trip. That's a young man's game, believe me. If you're interested in that hurry up, it's like [quiming?] the matter for it. What happened to me, well I did it several limes but I'll tell you a story that's for your edification maybe, but
amusement perhaps. I once [am noticing to you ?] was a landlord in Bcrkcly
many years ago. And, uh ..., that's sufficient. And everybody left one easter
vacation or thanksgiving vacation, so I decided I would do this acid trip, I did
plan to smoke DMT at the top of the trip, and so I did and I did and I had this
very long involved DMT trip with the elves and all of this was totally out of
control. And at the very height of this thing this woman who I rented to upstairs who I
thought had gone home to Minneapolis came back and arrived by cab and came
pounding up the stairs with these two suitcases [let her?] stomp into the house
and ran around to my bedroom door and beat on the door. And, you know, you
don't know me that well, but if I'm 500 miles up a jungle river smoking a joint
and a stick cracks 50 feet away the first thing I do is hide the joint - I'm a very
paranoid person - being, you know, on 500 mics of acid smoking DMT and
suddenly having this woman and I, I literally, I kept my some kind of a [...?], and
I leapt off my bed and I landed on my feet and, you know, if you want you may try
this, something about this enormous flash of adrenalin added into the DMT
added in to this sudden incredible physical exertion it was as though I ripped the
membrane, I ripped the membrane, and I was now standing in my room, but I
have dragged this trip through with me and the room was full of elves, ricocheting of the walls and I had them, they were hanging on me like weasels, turning me around in the room. And also simultaneously one of these machines had been dragged through into my bedroom at the same time and this is like about the size, well, like this, and it had all kinds of this faceted, and opalescent, and glassy, and strange, but what was important about it had a kind of a faceted [sop?] on it that was clicking and everytime it would click, it would launch a small plastic chip across the room that had an alien letter written on it. And these little plastic chips were
ricocheting off the wall and piling up, and I was standing appalled looking at this situation, and then, I stagger over to the door which was a sliding wooden door and I just threw it
open and I looked at her and said, [speaks alien language]. 'Oh so you're doing
that, all right.' she said and backed up and then I would slam the door back and I
pushed my way across the room and I crawled under the bed. And I closed my
eyes and I said, 'I'm gonna stay here 'til I'm dead or it's over.
-terence McKenna

-eg

 

[SnozzleBerry]

entheogenic-gnosis, do you have something you'd personally like to add to the topic? The Mckenna block quotes are getting rather tiresome. It's apparent that you have a considerable affinity for Mckenna and his words, and that's great, really it is. Many people enjoy the things Mckenna had to say, myself included.

However, when your posts consist of little more than walls of text coming from Mckenna--who unfortunately, isn't actually able to join the conversation and is unable to participate in a direct manner--it really doesn't add much to the discussion at hand. Yes there are times where people may have a quote that's relevant to the subjet matter at hand, but in some cases, you even post the exact same quote(s) across numerous threads.

I'm asking you to please be considerate of the people who you share this forum with. If you'd like to make a "Profound quotes from Mckenna" thread, that might be a more constructive approach to demonstrating your appreciation for the bard.

Thanks

Apologies for the thread derailment.

 

[3rdI]

i have a pretty secluded spot i enjoy spending summer days at, once, about half way through a reasonably absorbing adventure into the madness, i opened my eyes and looked down the fields, in the distance, about 150m away, i could see a man with an owl sat on his shoulder looking at me, i giggled at how high i was and went back to the madness thinking the man with the owl was part of the experience.

on my way home i saw the man again, he was indeed out walking his owl:lol: