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runemaster

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Hello! I am new, and I have not tried DMT. However, I had an unusual set of experiences with Salvia, and after many weeks of searching for information regarding a certain entity, I have arrived at this forum. There are a series of threads that involve the subject of my experience. Howbeit, I may not post as yet due to my being new.

A certain member will copy my report, and he will paste it in the appropriate places.

Thank you, and what follows is a paste of my experience:


Yes, I read some of the articles you mentioned. My experience with the entity was very real. I would say it was as real as it can get, "hyper-realistic."

I was depressed, so I decided to seek spirituality. I had forgotten my Christian teaching that I should not deal with "Sorcery," for, in my opinion, that is what doing drugs for the sake of contact with spirits is.

I went online, and after exhaustive research, ordered a couple of small bags of Salvia 20X. I made preparations to address the experience in the most sacred of ways. I was not going to do like the average jerk on the net, but I would pray, and I would come in humility.

My friend would sit for me. Mind you, I threw the stuff away after the second experience due to some hauntings that occurred to my wife and friend. She was totally oblivious to my having delved into this.

I prepared with my friend a prayer-type ritual. I say ritual because he decided to use his Native American knowledge to "smoke" my home out with Sage. This would ward off evil spirits according to him.

I put on some very nice Native American flute music in the background. He sat near me and kept time. I told him to count the seconds.

I sat on the couch and prepared a bowl of the Salvia to smoke in a pipe. I did not put much in it, but just about to the rim. I inhaled. Later he would tell me that I hardly made it to 27 seconds.

The first part of this experience was purely psychic. I had the feeling my soul was lying in the corner of someone’s apartment. I could see a balcony and the sun was near setting, but bright in the sky. I felt like there was someone or something in that apartment, the entity itself. Perhaps even spirits as these live in apartments. She, it seems, was preparing herself, and I was very securely kept in some corner of her dwelling.

It appears she, or it, placed an image of a city before my sight. It was a very poor painting I might add. I had the suspicion that this spirit was attempting to fool me into thinking I had seen the holy city mentioned in the bible. This is where the idea came to me that this was a demon. Why would a spirit of God lie?

On the other hand, it could have been some "Alien," and it may have been trying to communicate with me in human terms, using religious concepts as a way to do so.

I felt that it picked me up, and then I had the vision of what appeared to be an indistinct robed woman walking down a long blue stairway, like a stairway from heaven.

I heard a voice of a man in the background. In a commanding voice it said, "Do not take too long with him"! The robed figure turned to look back. There appeared to be a rocky slope on both sides of the staircase, and it felt as if God dwelt beyond the top of the stairs somewhere in the midst of an unseen city, that he was administering things much like an office administrator.

The next thing I know, I am being flown down some kind of channel or tunnel, the entity is carrying me. I feel small, as if I am a baby-sized soul being carried by a huge figure, a maternal one at that. I felt like Dante with Virgil.

Although we are traveling very fast down this corridor that leans downward at an angle, I can vaguely make out things along the way, along the walls. It feels as if there are decorations along the walls, just zipping past, and these have an eastern feel to them, like Chinese or Indian.

I am about to gain consciousness of my earth surroundings. Much later, I would recall that the entity and I emerged out of an arch, again "blue" with those eastern decorations. As the entity emerged from the end arch of the tunnel, I could see the sun, and pow! I was on my back, on the kitchen floor of my home.

I was on the floor struggling with some force. I had no idea what was happening to me. The experiences mentioned would come to me later, but for now, it was very real.

I thought I was going to die. I thrashed with all my soul against what felt like a torrential force, invisible. My friend, ex-brother-in law was standing near the stove, hands folded, and staring down at me in with a serious and inquisitive stare. For a moment, I thought my soon to be death, had something to do with him; that he was some how a conspirator overseeing this event.

I struggled, and as the force relaxed its grip, I could begin to make out its outline. It was not quite invisible, maybe 95 percent so, but I could make out that it had tentacles. These tentacles were covered in tiny window-like scales. They were colorful. I had the feeling that these were not eyes at all, but windows. I had the idea that these windows were multitudes of realities that it was in charge of overseeing, its case load. The tentacles were coiled around my limbs. It was in front of me, over me. It was doing something with its tentacles. I believe it was preparing to communicate with me. I feel it must have made some connection with my mind because now, as the tentacles relaxed my limbs, I could also see (in my minds eye), the womanly robed figure ascending the staircase, head bowed, and dignified, as if it was saying, "I mean you no harm, and I am leaving now."

As I sat up from the kitchen floor, the thing still enveloped me, but slowly it continued to uncoil my limbs. It was actually leading me. I got up and went with it into the living room. My friend followed us.

There I stood facing upward and walking toward the wall of my living room. I stopped, and the coils unwound my arm in a snake-like manner, so smooth and electrical. Yes, there was an entire electrical aspect to this. I could feel the tingling all over my body. It felt good.

Now I held on to one of the tentacles with both hands, might have been a tail, as it slipped between my fingers, electrical. It was ascending through my living room ceiling were the ceiling and the wall meet.

I looked back at my friend, who was sitting there on the couch. "Tony, this is as real as it gets, I can feel it. Do you see my hands? I am holding it."

I cried up to it, "Don't leave me in this world. Please, take me with you. Please don't leave me here. I am a good man"!

I looked at my friend, and he said, "It's not your time yet brother."

It had left now. I stood there supercharged with that electrical tingling sensation all over my body. I rubbed my friend down, my dog, and I got on my knees and hailed heaven.

Praise be to heaven! Praise heaven! Praise heaven!

I was manic for days. I felt great.

That would all come to an end the next and final time I used the Salvia.
 
This is a fantastic report ! I loved reading it....I was there with you. You would love spice . .
Welcome to the convergence. Thanks for the words.
 
I could not do spice. The second time I did the Salvia, I seemed to have opened a demon or spirit portal because my wife had a couple of apparitions and my friend who lives upstairs did too. This happened almost immediately after having gone to the "underworld," some dimension just below my feet where I met two beings, human like and sensual. That is another story. The trips (two) did not scare me. What scared me was the spirits that began to haunt those around me that didn't even do the stuff. There was some relation to mirrors too. All the mirrors in the house became haunted, for my usually calm dog became ferocious, barking and growling at mirrors at the oddest hours of the night.

I am somewhat of a researcher of demons as some are researchers of drugs. Most of my supernatural experiences have had nothing to do with drugs at all.

I went to church during this time, was scared to the point of insanity, and prayed like mad. The spirits seem to have left, but I know where the invisible portals are located. There are two in my livingroom, near the ceiling, and one on the floor.

It's all weird , I know.
 
You sure you werent just reading all this stuff about demons(most of which I think is made up by the church)and your overactive imagination brought it all out after smoking salvia?..
..it's actually daemons and the church took the idea from other cultures..made up a bunch of crap to frighten non-christians..damn scare tactics.. not saying I dont believe in evil or spirits but I wouldnt believe most of the crap they write in books.
I would be worried if I thought my mirrors were haunted and demons were haunting my friends because I smoked salvia..

Not that I havent seen similar things with salvia and other entheogens..just tell them to fuck off:d ..seriousily it works for me every time..but I dont still experience them AFTER the trip..unless I get sleep paralysis.

DMT is nothing like salvia.

Cool report..I like salvia:d ..we're good friends.
 
"The spirits seem to have left, but I know where the invisible portals are located. There are two in my livingroom, near the ceiling, and one on the floor."

Those portals are part of YOU my friend..YOU are the gateway to that other place..they have nothign to do with your living room or ceiling..

I know this...I have taken salvia hundreds of times..I smoked it near everyday for a year..I once had a magical wizard pull me through a portal into hyperspace and show me how all these portlas link up to countless worlds where infinite possabilities arise..he told me very clearly that the road to these places was WITHIN..we look withing to travel the outer realms..physical environments has NOTHING to do with it..YOU are the startgate mu friend..the technology IS you..

These portals arise not matter where I take the mint...I could be on the beach or at my friends house..it happenes the same way everytime..becasue we each contain within us a stargate.
 
Fractal, I don't blame you for disregarding much of the religion based demon stuff as crap. However, life experience has led me to develop a theory of reality based on demonology as it pertains to the Bible. My mom was a medium for several years, during which many creepy things occurred. I began to suspect that there is this incredible scam by invisible forces, to control our minds. I am convinced that certain invisible forces are trying to convince the world of a "New Spiritualism." Perhaps, the means of their control is through the manipulation of human imagination and thought.

I once experienced a "thought" force field. No drugs were involved. But let me not stray from the Octopoid. We have all been through the bible controversy. No need to beat a dead horse. I appreciate your take on my experience, and I have considered what you propose. Thanks for commenting.

Whatever is out there, it is far beyond human. I believe entities possess powerful, non-human technologies. I believe I once saw one of their transports.

Forgive me for straying.
 
"I began to suspect that there is this incredible scam by invisible forces"

I have had experienes that if real, could confirm that..but also experiences(no drugs involved) that if taken as truth, would confirm the fact that we also have ancient brothers and sisters who have made the great plight into these realms that are watching over us..so I am not worried..
 
I understand what you are saying concerning the portals, but my instinct and observations point to actual portal positioning. I mean , the Octopoid left through a distinct position near my ceiling, and there was the spot above one window where the dog would bark like mad. There was something about the mirrors too. As if the dog could see through them into some activity. As if the mirrors became windows themselves, into some other world. Sometimes, I though they might be looking at me through the mirrors. Anyone seen this Octopoid?
 
I have seen an octopus entity with mushrooms, but never with salvia.

With salvia I seem to find over and over that conciousness seems to be non-local..what passes as "me" in this base level of conscousness is a very confined, dumbed down version..while in salvia hyperspace..I AM..and thats just it..everything I am..there is no seperation..

I can always feel an inner motion that opens these portals that might appear to be on the wall..in the corner where the wall meets the ceiling..where the music seperates from the sterio speakers etc..yet it is all me and my inner technology that is doing it..

With eyes closed in a dark room this becomes undeniably apparent..it has something to do with chakra activations and the merkaba I think.
 
In my experience, Opticus is entirely too willing to play whatever role that is ascribed to him. Of course he was a biblical demon, that is what you fear. He is also an alien hive and a terrestrial ancient mind parasite. He is the Chi dragon. Opti is God if you will play turns being the devil. The guy that described it as a mirror was closer to the mark.

Personally, I suspect that attachment to any given dogma is simply prejudicial against learning. Approaching any little known phenomena from a position of preconception is doomed toward confusion. The Opticus is a trickster and is more interested in your attention than your understanding, possibly. I would warn against holding a given theology over observable experience.

In other words, assuming a demoniac cause for the phenomena may be rather like showing up with a slingshot in a gunfight.
 
opticuswrangler your analysis may be correct in the event that the Biblical God is false. But, if he is real then your theory is totally wrong. Also, no one really knows for sure what or how these entities operate. Your theory is as valid as my dogma.

I did not fear when I embarked on the Salvia trip. Indeed, I thought I had experienced some kind of angel.

I would not easily dismiss the Bible. I realize many would find it convenient to dismiss it. I am not so disposed.

I simply believe that this entity has the power, perhaps under certain conditions, to control or manipulate human thought.

As an ex-Marine, I can tell you, that is a dangerous being to play with.

I believe the human mind is like a transmitter/receiver. I believe there is order in the universe. This order must stem from some place. Thus, I have chosen to place my trust on "Central Command." Let that be the station to which I tune, regardless of what visions, realities, or thoughts may entertain my consciousness.

I am resolute in my position that it is a demon. I respect all conjecture. I am here to learn more about this entity, what makes it tick. Your response has shed some light on its powers of "control."

Approaching any little known phenomena from a position of preconception is doomed toward confusion.


This is not always true. A phenomenon must be approached from some point. Invariably, from a point of ignorance. Otherwise, it would not be a phenomenon. But, if the preconception were ultimately true, then one is not doomed to confusion, but to understanding, and quite the opposite would be true.

Both positions may be correct given the proper factors.

Ultimately, we are dealing with subject matter beyond common human understanding, faith may be more powerful an instrument here, than a hammer or a microscope.

In any case, does anyone have any reference to mythology concerning the window-like scales and tentacles?

The closest I came was a statue called, "Liberticus." there is not much on that, and that subject is only indirectly connected to this tentacled entity. what's with the tunnel too?


Thanks for the intriguing comments.

On a side note: There is some debate within the Christian community as to whether there is an "underworld." That would be the subject of my second and last Salvia experience.
 
The danger is perhaps self-evident. I have come all too close to hurting myself far too many times to recommend damn-foolery by anyone but an expert. But as an experienced climber and predicamenteer, I have been willing to take one for the team for the purpose of advancing our knowledge.

Your concern is noted, thank you.
 
Thank you opticuswrangler. I cannot even imagine what you have experienced. Have you experienced any entities on earth, in real time? That is, have you experienced contact with entities while on DMT or not, while aware of your earthly surroundings?

All I know is that the entity experience I had was as real as it gets, enough for a lifetime. I was manhandled by an entity.

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And now you come to the DMT Nexus saying you can't smoke spice? Hah!

SMOKE DMT!

You can NOT come to conclusions. They are DEAD ENDS. The work is NEVER ENDING, and your fear is unnecessary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously.
 
I have learned enough. I leave you with the hope that your souls may be delivered from the influence of Satan's minions. Yes, they or it are parasites. Rid yourselves of them in the name of Jesus Christ. Christ is the only path to salvation. Hold on to Christ.

Goodbye, and thank you for reinforcing the knowledge that this thing is a demonic parasite. I will now seek to cleanse myself of this.

Our society is under the power of darkness because it offers us all the sensuality we could ever imagine. However, a day of reckoning is coming. Your soul is of value.

Put your trust in Christ. He is lord.

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You have NOT learned enough. Clearly you haven't even come close. You were touched by the spirit of salvia and that scared you so bad you think you understand everything entheogens have to offer. But you don't, and you never will, until you traverse hyperspace DEEP and LONG. Remember that...
We are the explorers. You are on the sidelines with your camera taking snap shots in which you interpret abstractly and fit into your mycelium of harmonic neural synchonizations. Another delusional subjective experience uploaded into opti's hub. A garden. In the shade...
 
You admit Opti is a psychic vampire. I don't particularly enjoy being someone's food, no matter how brilliant they may appear.

I respectfully disagree. You stick with opti, I have a friend called Christ.

Good luck to you all.
 
runemaster said:
I have learned enough. I leave you with the hope that your souls may be delivered from the influence of Satan's minions. Yes, they or it are parasites. Rid yourselves of them in the name of Jesus Christ. Christ is the only path to salvation. Hold on to Christ.

Goodbye, and thank you for reinforcing the knowledge that this thing is a demonic parasite. I will now seek to cleanse myself of this.

Our society is under the power of darkness because it offers us all the sensuality we could ever imagine. However, a day of reckoning is coming. Your soul is of value.

Put your trust in Christ. He is lord.

This is the kind of things people say/type when they are brainwashed and afraid. You don't know where else to turn, so you turn to the programming.
If you want to cleanse yourself of this, drink ayahuasca. Do some research. You will see...
 
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