runemaster said:
All is reflection. My relationship with Hyperspace is obviously SYMBIOTIC. So what if it's alive? Does that creep you out like a Mantis?
The neurotransmission flows through ALL life.
Christ is dead...
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All is reflection. My relationship with Hyperspace is obviously SYMBIOTIC. So what if it's alive? Does that creep you out like a Mantis?
The neurotransmission flows through ALL life.
Christ is dead...
runemaster
Rising Star
I'm digging in for enemy attack. You guys are welcome to run around enemy territory. Good luck.
The Lord is my shield.
The Lord is my shield.
Love in the form of panuniversal light is not my enemy, nor is it yours. ;]
P.s. The Lord doesn't shield you from endogenous n,n-dimethyltryptamine now does it? The lord circulates it withinity for a reason !!
P.s. The Lord doesn't shield you from endogenous n,n-dimethyltryptamine now does it? The lord circulates it withinity for a reason !!
Interesting thread...!! I'm enjoying everyone's thoughts immensely. Thank you. 
While I have never been "manhandled by entities," I have had cases of positive synchronicities directly related to Ayahuasca. Specifically, I had one person I simply left a cutting of vine with, and wild, wild things spiralled out of that (it eventually evolved into a huge life lesson where I learned how to make peace with parts of myself, so, I would say, the synchronicities were signs, or perhaps manifestations, of the learning and healing I sought).
There were a few other cases of doing ceremonies with a friend, and shortly after starting, doors would slam and power would go out if things needed to be adjusted in set/setting before we could proceed.
Drugs? Yes. Spirits? Yes.
While I have never been "manhandled by entities," I have had cases of positive synchronicities directly related to Ayahuasca. Specifically, I had one person I simply left a cutting of vine with, and wild, wild things spiralled out of that (it eventually evolved into a huge life lesson where I learned how to make peace with parts of myself, so, I would say, the synchronicities were signs, or perhaps manifestations, of the learning and healing I sought).
There were a few other cases of doing ceremonies with a friend, and shortly after starting, doors would slam and power would go out if things needed to be adjusted in set/setting before we could proceed.
Drugs? Yes. Spirits? Yes.
runemaster
Rising Star
Look it is all very cool to think of oneself as a pioneer of sorts, a psychonaut, but let's face it, this is alien territory. It is just as alien as walking on another planet. I do not take interaction with strange and intelligent life forms, even from another dimension, lightly.
Opti is not your pet rock. For all we know, it may be a danger to the soul.
Sorry Wrangler, but extra dimensional beings are not something I take lightly. For those who have not experienced these things, I have, sometimes I did whilst not on drugs. It was always very disconcerting.
This is no joke people. One thing is seeing these on drugs, I can handle that. But when they break forth into common reality, it's time to re-group. This is another scenario altogether. I thank the Christian God for not allowing these things at me any more.
I understand the temptation, but I resist.
Armour of God
Please respect my desire to help those who hear the voice of God. God is also an extra-dimensional being. If you can imagine it, it is. Thus the one and only, sovereign over all worlds and dominions, exists.
Opti is not your pet rock. For all we know, it may be a danger to the soul.
Sorry Wrangler, but extra dimensional beings are not something I take lightly. For those who have not experienced these things, I have, sometimes I did whilst not on drugs. It was always very disconcerting.
This is no joke people. One thing is seeing these on drugs, I can handle that. But when they break forth into common reality, it's time to re-group. This is another scenario altogether. I thank the Christian God for not allowing these things at me any more.
I understand the temptation, but I resist.
Armour of God
Please respect my desire to help those who hear the voice of God. God is also an extra-dimensional being. If you can imagine it, it is. Thus the one and only, sovereign over all worlds and dominions, exists.
gosvami
Rising Star
yes, thats true.runemaster said:
but isn't it true that the first reaction is fear in the moment a man discovers something completely unknown?
and isn't it true that ignorance an prejudice and fear walk hand in hand?
and what is harming you?
is it the alien beings?
(if you meet aliens/psychic vampires at all... may be your "alien-contact" it is only some sort of mental construction you made....because of the lack of a better construction...)
or is it YOUR fear what is harming you and sucks you out?
by the way:
fear is one characteristic of men.
another, more "positive" characteristic of men is:
to be open minded and curious then exploring something new and unknown...
transitory
currently intergrating
runemaster
Firstly, thanks for an excellent trip report and welcome to the Nexus! :d
runemaster I have to say this ...
I am becoming increasingly convinced that certain fearful forces are trying to convince the world of "a doctrine of Christianity" and I am inclined to observe that their means of control is through the manipulation of human imagination and thought. Seriously.
My intention really IS NOT to test or mock the faith of another but do you not see the irony in your above quote? I humbly suggest that both the interpretations which you force upon your experiences and the consequent difficulties encountered in integrating these experiences are the result of fear. Fear engendered by the "manipulation of human imagination and thought" by Christian doctrine. So often over the past year I have searched threads which discuss the negative aspects of hyperspace and each time I have found only the voice of fear resulting from a Christian interpretation of the experience.
Always there is fear.
As was everything outside of our back yards when we were children. This is my territory. This is my consciousness. Only I can solve the riddles contained therein. No authority- neither a religious text nor a govt is going to do this for me.
No you haven't.
Sorry mate but this is a special place of sharing and learning. The molecule opens our minds. We like that.
Firstly, thanks for an excellent trip report and welcome to the Nexus! :d
runemaster I have to say this ...
I am becoming increasingly convinced that certain fearful forces are trying to convince the world of "a doctrine of Christianity" and I am inclined to observe that their means of control is through the manipulation of human imagination and thought. Seriously.
My intention really IS NOT to test or mock the faith of another but do you not see the irony in your above quote? I humbly suggest that both the interpretations which you force upon your experiences and the consequent difficulties encountered in integrating these experiences are the result of fear. Fear engendered by the "manipulation of human imagination and thought" by Christian doctrine. So often over the past year I have searched threads which discuss the negative aspects of hyperspace and each time I have found only the voice of fear resulting from a Christian interpretation of the experience.
Always there is fear.
As was everything outside of our back yards when we were children. This is my territory. This is my consciousness. Only I can solve the riddles contained therein. No authority- neither a religious text nor a govt is going to do this for me.
No you haven't.
Sorry mate but this is a special place of sharing and learning. The molecule opens our minds. We like that.
Skizm
Rising Star
runemaster said:
Nooo wayyyy dude! I used to play that game as well. Anyway, nice report. I guess someone's upbringing really does influence their trips.
I'd agree with you about the aliens and all. Regular reality is already a trip, we do not need aliens fucking things up for us!
opticuswrangler
Rising Star
Rune, it seems you showed up with plenty of preconceived ideas about what is going on. It is not clear to me at all if you are here to get information, or to simply preach. The Opticus, in my experience, is delighted by the prospect of a battle. Coming to accept that point has been a huge issue for myself. If you must go to war, at least use it as a vehicle to extend yourself further, least you find that a great deal of energy has been spent toward dubious ends. I wouldn't resist Opti for years, as conventional psychedelic wisdom is to always "go with it". At one point it occurred to me that I was living with the ultimate Sifu and wasting my time. I have indeed been with Opti while aware of my surroundings, as now much of my time with It is spent on a rocky hill with a bo staff. I think I have learned much, at least that there is much to learn.
Of course it is not a joke. Or, if it is, it is based on something serious. You may proceed as you wish in regard to the situation, but understand that you are not sounding as expert as you are painting yourself. I have no interest in any "help" ridding myself of my association with Opticus. It has been pointed out before, if humans do indeed have a soul, would they know it if they saw it? Or perhaps it would be similarly terrible to behold. You may be trying to amputate a spiritual part of yourself because it is freaking you out. Kinda like ripping out your intestines because they look like a giant worm. As to not liking the idea of being food for another organism, we are all food for something or other, that is why we are made of meat. Anything alive is food.
If I had avoided doing things because they were unpleasant or scary, I wouldn't have amounted to much. Again, people ought to not jump out of airplanes, or climb mountains, or associate with wild beasts, but our overall experience is enriched by the fact that some people DO things like that. We will never have any knowledge beyond bronze-age superstitions unless some of us are willing to get dirty and play outside the fence.
Of course it is not a joke. Or, if it is, it is based on something serious. You may proceed as you wish in regard to the situation, but understand that you are not sounding as expert as you are painting yourself. I have no interest in any "help" ridding myself of my association with Opticus. It has been pointed out before, if humans do indeed have a soul, would they know it if they saw it? Or perhaps it would be similarly terrible to behold. You may be trying to amputate a spiritual part of yourself because it is freaking you out. Kinda like ripping out your intestines because they look like a giant worm. As to not liking the idea of being food for another organism, we are all food for something or other, that is why we are made of meat. Anything alive is food.
If I had avoided doing things because they were unpleasant or scary, I wouldn't have amounted to much. Again, people ought to not jump out of airplanes, or climb mountains, or associate with wild beasts, but our overall experience is enriched by the fact that some people DO things like that. We will never have any knowledge beyond bronze-age superstitions unless some of us are willing to get dirty and play outside the fence.
this thread grates me
why must you come here to say you cant have spice
then fill us with religious propaganda for a religion thats clearly false
dont believe me that its false? well hold your protests and eat some dmt..
then we can talk as long as you like
why must you come here to say you cant have spice
then fill us with religious propaganda for a religion thats clearly false
dont believe me that its false? well hold your protests and eat some dmt..
then we can talk as long as you like
Pokey
Rising Star
Never a dull moment on the Nexus!:d
Where's all this multi eyed octopus stuff coming from? Spent an hour last night reading the "Encounter with Za" thread and attached articles. That was the first I'd heard of the "gaurdian of the underworld", and now here it is again scaring the bejezus out of runemaster!:shock:
That octopus thing is really getting around!
Pokey the Amazed
Where's all this multi eyed octopus stuff coming from? Spent an hour last night reading the "Encounter with Za" thread and attached articles. That was the first I'd heard of the "gaurdian of the underworld", and now here it is again scaring the bejezus out of runemaster!:shock:
That octopus thing is really getting around!
Pokey the Amazed
And the more we talk about Opti, the more we are feeding him!! The more we discuss this guy on the Nexus, the more ALL OF US may see him EVERYWHERE!!!
From the flip side... I dropped out of Catholic school YEARS ago. I really enjoy the teachings of Christ as a person, along with many other great prophets of other religions as people, I think we are ALL people (and that is an incredible mystery to behold... we are all divine, IMHO).
But! So as a person who formally "gave up" and "quit believing" Christianity over a decade ago, during an Ayahuasca ceremony, I experienced a full-blown crucifixion and spoke in tonuges.
It was very real... But I wouldn't interpret it as an us/them, Christ vs. devil vs. aliens kind of way... It is just another force within the great consciousness, a force of expansion, compassion, surrender, and understanding, the Christ force within all of us (would you dispute that we all have the power to love like Christ?). It deepened my appreciation of everything... that's what the molecule does.
What could even potentially terrifying spirits have to teach? What are they doing, why are they there? What do they make you aware of? WHY do they produce the feelings they do?
I met some really freaky fractal beasts last night... Strange, alien creatures that literally feed upon anger and resentment, and grow fat with every negative thought we have. Whoa! Do I want to unconsciously feed these parasites?
Though, from my current position/belief/knowledge/experience, I would have been less shocked to meet Opti. But instead, I got Christ.
Intestines could be terrifying when they look like worms... but the most terrifying aspect of body-consciousness-expansion-awareness-process was meeting the micro-intelligences within my body, face to face. The intestines don't just look like worms, THEY ARE ALIVE... they are sentient... they have thoughts, feelings, and can communicate... and above all (though it might look scary as hell when that third eye opens wide enough for the first time and you see the shocking energetic beauty of it all), the intestines love you!
From the flip side... I dropped out of Catholic school YEARS ago. I really enjoy the teachings of Christ as a person, along with many other great prophets of other religions as people, I think we are ALL people (and that is an incredible mystery to behold... we are all divine, IMHO).
But! So as a person who formally "gave up" and "quit believing" Christianity over a decade ago, during an Ayahuasca ceremony, I experienced a full-blown crucifixion and spoke in tonuges.
It was very real... But I wouldn't interpret it as an us/them, Christ vs. devil vs. aliens kind of way... It is just another force within the great consciousness, a force of expansion, compassion, surrender, and understanding, the Christ force within all of us (would you dispute that we all have the power to love like Christ?). It deepened my appreciation of everything... that's what the molecule does.
What could even potentially terrifying spirits have to teach? What are they doing, why are they there? What do they make you aware of? WHY do they produce the feelings they do?
I met some really freaky fractal beasts last night... Strange, alien creatures that literally feed upon anger and resentment, and grow fat with every negative thought we have. Whoa! Do I want to unconsciously feed these parasites?
Though, from my current position/belief/knowledge/experience, I would have been less shocked to meet Opti. But instead, I got Christ.
Intestines could be terrifying when they look like worms... but the most terrifying aspect of body-consciousness-expansion-awareness-process was meeting the micro-intelligences within my body, face to face. The intestines don't just look like worms, THEY ARE ALIVE... they are sentient... they have thoughts, feelings, and can communicate... and above all (though it might look scary as hell when that third eye opens wide enough for the first time and you see the shocking energetic beauty of it all), the intestines love you!
The only entity I've ever encountered was an octopus on Syrian Rue and mushrooms. I didn't get a bad vibe off it though, more a feeling of mutual curiosity. At time I was in a state of near nirvana. It was incredible and completely unexpected, but the encounter felt very magical at the time, and I won't ever forget it.
Runemaster thanks for sharing your report. However I think it a little naive or a little arrogant to say you've 'learned enough'. Life is about continual learning, expansion and experiences, through your entire existence.
This quote is Carlos Castenada's, and while his books might have been fiction, I think his words ring true;
"We are men and our lot in life is to learn and to be hurled into inconceivable new worlds."
And a top line from Aleister Crowley;
“The joy of life consists in the exercise of one's energies, continual growth, constant change, the enjoyment of every new experience. To stop means simply to die. The eternal mistake of mankind is to set up an attainable ideal.”
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Runemaster thanks for sharing your report. However I think it a little naive or a little arrogant to say you've 'learned enough'. Life is about continual learning, expansion and experiences, through your entire existence.
This quote is Carlos Castenada's, and while his books might have been fiction, I think his words ring true;
"We are men and our lot in life is to learn and to be hurled into inconceivable new worlds."
And a top line from Aleister Crowley;
“The joy of life consists in the exercise of one's energies, continual growth, constant change, the enjoyment of every new experience. To stop means simply to die. The eternal mistake of mankind is to set up an attainable ideal.”
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opticuswrangler
Rising Star
I like ur last post, minx, when you point out the amazement inherent in realizing the sentience of subsystems. It is simple to assume that a system involving many parts may be conscious, but grasping that it is also true across scales is truly cool.
runemaster
Rising Star
I was just curious about other people experiencing this thing, but now I am out. Thank you all. It was an interesting exchange. I don't want to feed it any more. It is way to freaking alien. No it was not just a vision. That thing was 3d, and it man-handled me. It even project thoughts over the forehead with its tentacle.
May Christ save us all.
Roger and out!
May Christ save us all.
Roger and out!
You are it. It is you.
sooner you accept it the better your life will be۩ said:
did i mention jesus was a poser?
transitory said:
That's strange, because I'm certain that insidious forces are seeking to destroy Christianity. They do so by:
1. Making the Church detestable through child absue controversies and hateful fundamentalism.
2. Deny the existence of God, as zealously proclaimed by Dawkins and his clones.
3. Sell the alternative, which is we are all God, as taught by Alan Watts. Mystical states, Perennial philosophy, and Eastern mysticism, all point to this conclusion, and through Salvia and DMT, is accessible to any average joe (as seen on YouTube).
The enemy of God has been selling this trap since the beginning, and now that his time is coming to an end, he is furiously at work.
By the way, Christianity doesn't need to convince anyone of anything. Those who belong to the Father are attracted to the Gospel. Those who do not belong to the Father deny even the miraculous.
what is with all the cult stuff all of a sudden?
i am getting scared..
i am getting scared..
Morphane said:
SO anyone that doesnt follow "the father" denies the miraculous? What about people in areas of the world where christianity is not available to them? Are they somehow less worthy?..if so I want to nothing to do with that "god"..no sir.
I think this type of thinking personally is discusting and arrogant..the church has been backwards for soooooo long..you think that somehow it's just going downhill recently? God man take a look around at the pile of shit that organized religion has become..theres no genuine love in that..where the hell is unconditional love in an ideology that excludes people that dont follow your idealogy of "god"?...the church has destroyed so many peoples lives and entire cultures based on this ideology..
I dont care if people dont like hearing this stuff..too bad. You choose to speak about it here acting as if the church is all fine and dandy and doesnt already have any skelatons in the closet thats fine but it's a naive point of view..this is the perfect example of placing the blame elsewhere intead of accepting the harsh reality of the church and certain other sects of organized religion..so instead you never have to take a look at yourself in the mirror and realize that you can be just as big an asshole as the next guy..no one is perfect and that is what makes them perfect..we are ALL one, we are ALL god..there is no need to be saved because, well..we are already here.
I wonder what your opinion of the Dali Lama is? Do you somehow think he is some sort of "enemy of god"..I think he's an extremely compassionate man and has put great effort towards advancing human rights and freedom and peace..so what have you done?
Dont get me wrong I am not trying to judge you my friend I love oyu and everyone else as a being of light here on this here spaceship earth, but I see a huge lack of love, understanding and genuine compassion for your fellow man in ideologies such as this..it seems to give people the excuse to feel more privilaged than others..it's like looking for the rights to go on an ego trip..
We all stand the same...