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Hi all. Did Cyb's salt tek. Followed to the T. Used pure lye, tap water, and heptane.
Did two jars. One with 50g one with 100g. Froze and thawed both jars once in acid bath then basified for an hour in a heat bath then pulled with 50ml heptane each. Freeze preciped over night in a -17c freezer.
Came out with I'd describe as a tanish colour. Feels waxy and looks like all dmt Ive ever seen before in person before this. Just seems odd to me as I was half expecting it to come out white or slightly yellow without re-x.
Thoughts?
Thanks
Did two jars. One with 50g one with 100g. Froze and thawed both jars once in acid bath then basified for an hour in a heat bath then pulled with 50ml heptane each. Freeze preciped over night in a -17c freezer.
Came out with I'd describe as a tanish colour. Feels waxy and looks like all dmt Ive ever seen before in person before this. Just seems odd to me as I was half expecting it to come out white or slightly yellow without re-x.
Thoughts?
Thanks
hi i was wondering if someone can help me on a rue extraction.
i have posted here
but didn't realise this sticky existed.
basically i think i cocked up.
apparently i have been adding way too much lye mixture to get my alkaloids to preticipate.
i have high levels of lye in various mixtures and need it to go to a stable safe state.
so hopefully i can continue to extract.
which is the best way to carry on please?
thank you
i have posted here
but didn't realise this sticky existed.
basically i think i cocked up.
apparently i have been adding way too much lye mixture to get my alkaloids to preticipate.
i have high levels of lye in various mixtures and need it to go to a stable safe state.
so hopefully i can continue to extract.
which is the best way to carry on please?
thank you
DreaMTripper
Rising Star
Sorry Im unfamiliar with that tek. Maybe youve destroyed the molecules.
My query is why all these bark/phyllode extractions have an acid step first?
I would have thought a basify step would be better to break the material down and 'expose' the alkaloids , then acidify the solution now that the alkaloids are more accessible?
My query is why all these bark/phyllode extractions have an acid step first?
I would have thought a basify step would be better to break the material down and 'expose' the alkaloids , then acidify the solution now that the alkaloids are more accessible?
If your alkaloids precipitated, filter them, and excess NaOH will be in the water so you will get rid of most of it. Then you can redissolve and reprecipitate either with right amount of salt or right amount of base.
If your alkaloids didnt precipitate, its hard to know why because you made a mess at this point, sorry. As I suggested, start again, and follow the tek correctly.
If your alkaloids didnt precipitate, its hard to know why because you made a mess at this point, sorry. As I suggested, start again, and follow the tek correctly.
Hello everyone!
I just finished my first extraction. However, I think I've done something wrong.
I followed Noman's Tek with 50 gram of pre-powdered MHRB, 1 liter water, 50 gram NaOH, and for each pull 50 gram of naptha (I believe I calculated that this was somewhere between 35 and 40 ml).
I did 4 pulls that evening. After one day in the freezer, I had 4 jars with 4 different results:
- My first pull had some green (I think, I am color-blind) goo stuck to the bottom.
- My second pull seemed to be only Naptha.
- My third pull had some white/yellowish goo stuck to the bottom.
- My fourth pull had some off-white goo stuck to the bottom.
I've vaporized DMT once before, and thinking back of the amount of goo I had back then, I estimated these three pulls together to be somewhere between 5 and 10 of that. Estimated about 100 - 200 miligrams.
I filtered the Naptha through a coffee-filter and then put the jars back upside down. I left them that way for 4 hours, to let the remaining Naptha drip on the lid.
After that, I put the four jars, without the lid, in my fridge (4 degrees Celsius), to let the remaining Naptha evaporate. Very soon after that (I think 15 to 45 minutes), when I checked up on them, The bits of goo were mostly liquified. I thought this could be normal, for with a higher temperature, the freeze-precip gets un-done again.
One day later, the jars had completely dried out and the Naptha smell was gone. I could smell the dmt smell (at least, the way the dmt of my one experience smelled). However, almost everything that used to be in the jars was gone. I can still see that there is something inside there, because the glass looks a bit dirty on the places where the goo used to be.
I think there is still 5% left of the goo I had before drying. Is this normal? Does the goo before drying contain so much of the Naptha?
Also I thought after some research, I have agitated way too soft. I tried to get no waves at all when I rolled the jar around. I think I need to agitate harder (shake it a bit). Also, maybe I should add 2 tablespoons of salt?
I don't think scraping out the jars will be worth trying. Should I just try some other pulls and put these pulls in the unwashed jars again?
I have one remaining pull now in the freezer. There seem to be as much/more chrystals as in the first pull. Some of them are also floating, so I will need to catch them with a coffee-filter. Where should I leave this coffee-filter to dry? In the freezer? In the fridge? At room-temperature?
Thank you so much for your help!
I just finished my first extraction. However, I think I've done something wrong.
I followed Noman's Tek with 50 gram of pre-powdered MHRB, 1 liter water, 50 gram NaOH, and for each pull 50 gram of naptha (I believe I calculated that this was somewhere between 35 and 40 ml).
I did 4 pulls that evening. After one day in the freezer, I had 4 jars with 4 different results:
- My first pull had some green (I think, I am color-blind) goo stuck to the bottom.
- My second pull seemed to be only Naptha.
- My third pull had some white/yellowish goo stuck to the bottom.
- My fourth pull had some off-white goo stuck to the bottom.
I've vaporized DMT once before, and thinking back of the amount of goo I had back then, I estimated these three pulls together to be somewhere between 5 and 10 of that. Estimated about 100 - 200 miligrams.
I filtered the Naptha through a coffee-filter and then put the jars back upside down. I left them that way for 4 hours, to let the remaining Naptha drip on the lid.
After that, I put the four jars, without the lid, in my fridge (4 degrees Celsius), to let the remaining Naptha evaporate. Very soon after that (I think 15 to 45 minutes), when I checked up on them, The bits of goo were mostly liquified. I thought this could be normal, for with a higher temperature, the freeze-precip gets un-done again.
One day later, the jars had completely dried out and the Naptha smell was gone. I could smell the dmt smell (at least, the way the dmt of my one experience smelled). However, almost everything that used to be in the jars was gone. I can still see that there is something inside there, because the glass looks a bit dirty on the places where the goo used to be.
I think there is still 5% left of the goo I had before drying. Is this normal? Does the goo before drying contain so much of the Naptha?
Also I thought after some research, I have agitated way too soft. I tried to get no waves at all when I rolled the jar around. I think I need to agitate harder (shake it a bit). Also, maybe I should add 2 tablespoons of salt?
I don't think scraping out the jars will be worth trying. Should I just try some other pulls and put these pulls in the unwashed jars again?
I have one remaining pull now in the freezer. There seem to be as much/more chrystals as in the first pull. Some of them are also floating, so I will need to catch them with a coffee-filter. Where should I leave this coffee-filter to dry? In the freezer? In the fridge? At room-temperature?
Thank you so much for your help!
Nevermind my previous questions. I think that, because I didn't agitate enough, I didn't pull much dmt.
I mixed some Naphta in the used jars, and found out that the sticky bits on the bottom of the jars were my lye/bark mix. It seems that I accidentaly got some of that in my Naphta as well.
The one pull I still had in the freezer is now upside down in the freezer, with lots of white stuff. Also there is some white stuff on my coffee filter!
I mixed some Naphta in the used jars, and found out that the sticky bits on the bottom of the jars were my lye/bark mix. It seems that I accidentaly got some of that in my Naphta as well.
The one pull I still had in the freezer is now upside down in the freezer, with lots of white stuff. Also there is some white stuff on my coffee filter!
tester.dla.mmc said:
Should work fine.
buttchuggs
Rising Star
hello.
first post on here about my friends first pull. kinda been staggering along now with him and his pulls of naptha are more yellowish than "milky". what should he do about this? and also just wondering when lids should and shouldn't be on the jars, which steps? :?
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i think i have read now that my friend could maybe defat his yellow pulls to rid it of plant gunk? is this so
also, one of the less murky pulls has a beige colored sludge along the bottom. could this be re-x into a better product, or can it be smoked off of a nail on my friends small bubbler rig? and how much do you think? my friend bounced between the lex and thick-light methods, and made a few mistakes. these pulls are from only 2 acidic pulls worth of 1,000g of acrb. my friend plans on doing two more pulls from the bark and then starting fresh after that along the tek. sorry for the mess..
first post on here about my friends first pull. kinda been staggering along now with him and his pulls of naptha are more yellowish than "milky". what should he do about this? and also just wondering when lids should and shouldn't be on the jars, which steps? :?
edit:
i think i have read now that my friend could maybe defat his yellow pulls to rid it of plant gunk? is this so
also, one of the less murky pulls has a beige colored sludge along the bottom. could this be re-x into a better product, or can it be smoked off of a nail on my friends small bubbler rig? and how much do you think? my friend bounced between the lex and thick-light methods, and made a few mistakes. these pulls are from only 2 acidic pulls worth of 1,000g of acrb. my friend plans on doing two more pulls from the bark and then starting fresh after that along the tek. sorry for the mess..
Hallo group! So I've been studying the q21q21 tek 1 (The jimjam party) for a while now and I pretty much understand it completely, but i have some questions. First question: Is the final product going to be a goo or waxy substance? and I have a question/suggestion once someone helps me answer this.
Thanks a lot for letting us know
I want to try this out and test it, see if NMT also precipitates equally easy with fumaric acid or if it will be more selective to DMT.
Did you do FASA or FASI? Can you describe a bit more how you did it, if you precipitated from some non-polar solvent or just redissolved your already separated freebase goo/crystals and did FASA/FASI on it?
I want to try this out and test it, see if NMT also precipitates equally easy with fumaric acid or if it will be more selective to DMT.
Did you do FASA or FASI? Can you describe a bit more how you did it, if you precipitated from some non-polar solvent or just redissolved your already separated freebase goo/crystals and did FASA/FASI on it?
Why are you assuming dmt/nmt citrate is soluble in acetone? Where did you get the idea for this method?
Thanks, I had missed that part !
If I were you I'd wait to see if the NaOH water precipitates at all.. If not, I'd put it all in a pyrex dish, and evaporate it in by placing it on top of the pot with hot water, like a double boiler/warm bath kind of set up. Then with whatever you have once it evaps, scrape it, put in a glass, and pull with acetone, and evap the acetone to retrieve any DMT/NMT freebase that might be there..
Good luck, let us know how it goes!
If I were you I'd wait to see if the NaOH water precipitates at all.. If not, I'd put it all in a pyrex dish, and evaporate it in by placing it on top of the pot with hot water, like a double boiler/warm bath kind of set up. Then with whatever you have once it evaps, scrape it, put in a glass, and pull with acetone, and evap the acetone to retrieve any DMT/NMT freebase that might be there..
Good luck, let us know how it goes!
I've seen a few teks on this forum that say to freeze and thaw the root bark a few times after chopping into small pieces (i.e. before an acid boil). Does this mean to place dry root bark pieces into a container and place it in the freezer or should water be added?
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The link below is a good example:
Edit:
The link below is a good example:
