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thecrystalkid
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thanks for replying, i think thats one i haven't had a good look at so will.
i would find it difficult to be in my kitchen with either a strong vinegar or alcohol smell for more than a few mins i have two windows and sometimes do stuff by the window with a fan on it so it goes straight outdoors. i was kinda thinking i could just have a jar outside and lazyman it though i'm thinking i'm not gunna be able to avoid the lye even that way. i need to have a more indepth look at the eco teks, ive read a few but the lazyman appealed ..thanks for your input, appreciated
i would find it difficult to be in my kitchen with either a strong vinegar or alcohol smell for more than a few mins i have two windows and sometimes do stuff by the window with a fan on it so it goes straight outdoors. i was kinda thinking i could just have a jar outside and lazyman it though i'm thinking i'm not gunna be able to avoid the lye even that way. i need to have a more indepth look at the eco teks, ive read a few but the lazyman appealed ..thanks for your input, appreciated
Delysidikas
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Hej folks,
'hello' from a new member!
Next week I'll extract DMT for the first time and need someone experienced to take a look at my setup/questions to avoid mistakes.
I want to basically follow "The DMT Handbook", but with some inevitable changes that lead to questions:
1. I can only use MHRB-Powder - do I really have to cook it in pH4-acid 1.5 hours or would it be enough to just boil it, let it soak over night and then boil it again to gain the right temperature for basification?
2. What should I use to filtrate the powder? Powder is always a pain in the ass to get rid of out of liquids. Is a filtration needed anyways or could I just leave the powder in the basificated liquid, then add the unpolar solvent, shake and proceed etc.?
3. In my country you can't buy such thing as "solvent naphtha". So I bought Petroleum ether.
Will it work or should I buy something else e.g. Zippo-fluid?
4. I'm a very experienced mushroom grower, so I know that technics and procedures change over the time, people develope new things or change details.
How about the "DMT Handbook". Is it still up to date? Should I know something important that is not mentioned in the pdf?
Cheers,
Delysidikas
'hello' from a new member!
Next week I'll extract DMT for the first time and need someone experienced to take a look at my setup/questions to avoid mistakes.
I want to basically follow "The DMT Handbook", but with some inevitable changes that lead to questions:
1. I can only use MHRB-Powder - do I really have to cook it in pH4-acid 1.5 hours or would it be enough to just boil it, let it soak over night and then boil it again to gain the right temperature for basification?
2. What should I use to filtrate the powder? Powder is always a pain in the ass to get rid of out of liquids. Is a filtration needed anyways or could I just leave the powder in the basificated liquid, then add the unpolar solvent, shake and proceed etc.?
3. In my country you can't buy such thing as "solvent naphtha". So I bought Petroleum ether.
Will it work or should I buy something else e.g. Zippo-fluid?
4. I'm a very experienced mushroom grower, so I know that technics and procedures change over the time, people develope new things or change details.
How about the "DMT Handbook". Is it still up to date? Should I know something important that is not mentioned in the pdf?
Cheers,
Delysidikas
Hi Dalysidikas,
1. The more you boil the the more the boils the better the yield; you can very well do as you wrote, but it will take more of these boil-then-leave-overnight cycles you suggest. I have extracted dmt (retrieving ~75% the total yield) with just room temperature water and many, week-long soaks.
2. a cotton t-shirt or a muslin cloth folded 3-4 times will do the job. Yes it is laborious and there will be particles left that can be left to settle overnight after which point you can decant the particle-free water. Basifying in the presence of few particles is not the end of the world - actually in the STB teks there is TONS of particles. I'd suggest if that's your first time to go with a tek like Noman's or Cyb's Max Ion tek that do not require these filtrations.
3. Petroleum ether and zippo fluid will both work fine. just make sure they evap cleanly.
4. The DMT handbook is not really up-to-date but it is still good. I'd suggest that you rtead a few different teks and go with the one you feel most comfortable with and the whose steps you understand fully.
1. The more you boil the the more the boils the better the yield; you can very well do as you wrote, but it will take more of these boil-then-leave-overnight cycles you suggest. I have extracted dmt (retrieving ~75% the total yield) with just room temperature water and many, week-long soaks.
2. a cotton t-shirt or a muslin cloth folded 3-4 times will do the job. Yes it is laborious and there will be particles left that can be left to settle overnight after which point you can decant the particle-free water. Basifying in the presence of few particles is not the end of the world - actually in the STB teks there is TONS of particles. I'd suggest if that's your first time to go with a tek like Noman's or Cyb's Max Ion tek that do not require these filtrations.
3. Petroleum ether and zippo fluid will both work fine. just make sure they evap cleanly.
4. The DMT handbook is not really up-to-date but it is still good. I'd suggest that you rtead a few different teks and go with the one you feel most comfortable with and the whose steps you understand fully.
TruthSeeker11
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Is it okay to evaporate xylene or naphtha in an aluminum container?
Delysidikas
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Infundibulum said:
Thanks for your answer!
I've been reading more and the lots of possibilities and teks confused me a little, so I deceided to stay simple and try Lazyman's with:
100g MHRB(powder), 600ml water, 100g NaOH and 200ml petroleum ether(evaps without residue, I checked).
The solvent separates well from the black mixture after shaking, I shake the jar every two or three hours.
I use a syringe to siphone the solvent out of the jar. Works fine.
My freezer is ready, but I have to wait a couple more days until I have enough solvent.
so i have a question i used q21q21 tek i did a few pulls using vm&p made sure it was warm but never to hot evap the solvent in a crock pot on low with a exhaust window fan by it worked great had a yellowish to chalcky white crystal like substance left after it all evap a decent amount maybe2-3 grams but i cant seems to get much a trip from it i feel a little uplifted but no visuals any advice im not sure if doing the sandwich way to smoke is working
i used 100ml water 100ml vinger both heated to boiling with rootbark grinded down in it after two hours i added 14 grams of lime (calcium hydroxide) turned heat off stirred got to a thick consistency and let sit for hour. then i added vm&p to it and since mix was hot i didnt heat vm&p my mash was plenty warm.....swirled every so many hours till day past then i poured off solvent into crockpot and put on low this was result
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Du57mi73
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Your yeild looks wonderful. You say its chalky though. It should not be chalky. It should be crystaline/waxy. If it looks chalky then you might have calcium precipitates in it or something. But from the picture it looks perfect. I would suspect the smoking technique. Its not verry hard to smoke it. Even if you burn it you'll know cuz it becomes very harsh smoke. Does it have an intense plastic smell to it? When you smoke it do you taste the plastic strongly or does it have another taste?
Try a re-x and see what comes of that.
How much bark/plant was used to get your 2-3g?
Try a re-x and see what comes of that.
How much bark/plant was used to get your 2-3g?
Du57mi73
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How much did it weigh in the end? I ask because 150g of bark should yeild 1.5-3g. 3g being pretty much the maximum you can get out using the best techniques and skill. So if you got 3g I would suspect that you have something else in it as well. But doing a re-x will fix your problem if it is an issue with purity or something.
To do a re-x, take your spice and put it either into a jar or a flat glass dish. Spread it out as good as you can to create a bigger surface area. Now heat some naptha with a hot water bath, or use another method of heating your naptha, just be safe. Whenever you have your heated naptha just add it to your container of spice. The dmt should readily absorb into the heated naptha and all the other stuff will be left behind. Do not shake or stir it too much. 50ml of heated naptha can fit a gram of dmt into it. So you'd only need to use 150ml of heated naptha MAX. When you add the heated naptha, let it sit for a couple minutes, then pour the naptha into another clean container(the container you're going to use for freezing/crystallizing). I suggest using a jar for your re-x so that you can pour off the heated naptha easily. Remember that any spilling of naptha at this point will result in large losses so be careful when pouring. I would add heated naptha 50ml at a time. After you've poured off the naptha freeze it or evaporate that naptha and your spice will be cleaner and purer.
To do a re-x, take your spice and put it either into a jar or a flat glass dish. Spread it out as good as you can to create a bigger surface area. Now heat some naptha with a hot water bath, or use another method of heating your naptha, just be safe. Whenever you have your heated naptha just add it to your container of spice. The dmt should readily absorb into the heated naptha and all the other stuff will be left behind. Do not shake or stir it too much. 50ml of heated naptha can fit a gram of dmt into it. So you'd only need to use 150ml of heated naptha MAX. When you add the heated naptha, let it sit for a couple minutes, then pour the naptha into another clean container(the container you're going to use for freezing/crystallizing). I suggest using a jar for your re-x so that you can pour off the heated naptha easily. Remember that any spilling of naptha at this point will result in large losses so be careful when pouring. I would add heated naptha 50ml at a time. After you've poured off the naptha freeze it or evaporate that naptha and your spice will be cleaner and purer.
so update i have maybe a half g of cllearish flacky material looks like if you smashed a crystals it would be the dust left behind ...also i am wonder is freezer percipation needed i usally let the solvent air dry maybe with some help of a crockpot on low
Du57mi73
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Anything left over from your re-x that did not absorb into the naptha is NOT dmt. There might be a very very minute amount of dmt left it it but I would just throw it out as it is impurities. Your white flakes are spice. Evaporating it all is okay. People freeze for a cleaner product(less plant oils) but it is not at all necessary. Whatever came from you naptha after the re-x is good to go. Give that a test run.
Can you explain what each of those pictures are and what each pile is?
Can you explain what each of those pictures are and what each pile is?
bottom pic on the right small pile is clear translucent powder im hoping dmt large pile is white chalcky substance the lime im assuming ....ive since washed all original spice gotten impurities out some is yellowish goo or more rock salt like yellow crystals....next question i have is does dmt melt burn how do i go about using it best method
Du57mi73
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Dmt should immediately melt under a lighter flame. A lighter flame is actually too hot for dmt to handle so what you want to do is waft the lighter flame over your spice as you're inhaling.
Are you using a bong or pipe? Either way its the same, but with a bong its easier to blast off. What you should do is put herb in the bowl/slider like normal then take a small pinch off the top. Replace that with a layer of dmt(or if you have a mg scale, put about 60-100mg on it) remember that just because you put 100mg on the bowl does not mean you're going to inhale it all at once. Just put a layer across the top of your bowl. And use the flame wafting method and you will see the spice melt instantly.
Are you using a bong or pipe? Either way its the same, but with a bong its easier to blast off. What you should do is put herb in the bowl/slider like normal then take a small pinch off the top. Replace that with a layer of dmt(or if you have a mg scale, put about 60-100mg on it) remember that just because you put 100mg on the bowl does not mean you're going to inhale it all at once. Just put a layer across the top of your bowl. And use the flame wafting method and you will see the spice melt instantly.
so ive tried smoking spice in pipe mny a now under some herb i even wrapped screen in some foil to make a flame guard nothing seems to work not feeling trippy though it only kinda melts it has somewhat differnet smell not plastic though ....im just confused i did all steps right just not sure now if i have dmt ive got some more wet yellow goo to butt cant seem to feel any thing from ethier....i used mimosa root bark i have tree growing in yard i blended it down till it was fibery i used 4% white vinger mrs. wages pickleing lime and vm&p solvent
Du57mi73
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Ohhh man. you may not even have the right tree at all. How positive are you that its mimosa hostilis? Cuz there are over 400 different mimosa trees and 99% of them will not yeild you dmt. Are you thinking that a mimosa tree(silk tree) is what contains dmt? Take a pic of your tree and post it. If you live in new orleans you probably don't have the right tree. Mimosa hostilis grows in mexico/brazil.
slugware
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i am considering doing my first extraction attempt with Vortex' lazyman tek. i just powdered approx. 100 gr of mhrb. I sifted it and now i have the fine powder (containing very small chunks of fibers) and fibers that were held by the sift. So i want to know do i have to put everything - both the powder and the fibres, or it's pointless to add the fibres.
What I plan to use:
Zippo Ligter fluid 125 ml
Lye
Distilled water
Correct me if i'm wrong :
if i use both powder and the fibres (~100 gr. - i don't have an eletronic scale, i use a simple kitchen mechanic one), i have to use about 50 gr of lye and about 150 ml of Zippo lighter fluid?
Peace to all!
What I plan to use:
Zippo Ligter fluid 125 ml
Lye
Distilled water
Correct me if i'm wrong :
if i use both powder and the fibres (~100 gr. - i don't have an eletronic scale, i use a simple kitchen mechanic one), i have to use about 50 gr of lye and about 150 ml of Zippo lighter fluid?
Peace to all!
