official extraction help thread

[psilocybin]

Any questions or problems you may run into during an extraction can be asked to get other members input in this thread.

 

[Winemaker]

Thanks for the compliment haha.

You can reuse the naptha, definitely. Some people I've seen on here claim to be using the same naptha for a year or three and it still works well. I'd say if it's super orange then it may not be able to absorb a whole lot of goodies but you could clean it up by (after backsalting to ensure all goodies are out) just combining it with some distilled/clean water and shaking it around. The water will begin to take on the fats at which point you can dump the water and repeat the cleaning or just go ahead and use it.

Or if you wanna get really fancy you could distill it but that takes a lot of time, effort and equipment.

 

[decibel]

Thanks for the compliment haha.

You can reuse the naptha, definitely. Some people I've seen on here claim to be using the same naptha for a year or three and it still works well. I'd say if it's super orange then it may not be able to absorb a whole lot of goodies but you could clean it up by (after backsalting to ensure all goodies are out) just combining it with some distilled/clean water and shaking it around. The water will begin to take on the fats at which point you can dump the water and repeat the cleaning or just go ahead and use it.

Or if you wanna get really fancy you could distill it but that takes a lot of time, effort and equipment.

Awesome! That was just the info I needed! Thanks again
Will not be distilling it though :surprised


And thank you to anarchy for replying

 

[shineonyoucrazy]

So I did cybs 50g acrb salt tek, and still ended up with goo. Not complaining cause it was some amazing goo that sent me to an amazingly beautiful place and had a wonderful euphoric/restorative feeling just wondering what this could be caused by? I followed the tek to the t. I used 50g of Hawaiian acrb, sunnsyside brand naptha, sea salt (non iodized) and distilled white vinegar. I'm wondering if instead of trying the freeze precipitation, would it help to let it all just evaporate giving time for the crystals to form? Any insight would be greatly appreciated! Have a wonderful day,night, or experience depending on where you all are in the universe

 

[3rdI]

Any insight would be greatly appreciated!

you could try a mini A/B

 

[Earthwalker]

So I did cybs 50g acrb salt tek, and still ended up with goo. Not complaining cause it was some amazing goo that sent me to an amazingly beautiful place and had a wonderful euphoric/restorative feeling just wondering what this could be caused by? I followed the tek to the t. I used 50g of Hawaiian acrb, sunnsyside brand naptha, sea salt (non iodized) and distilled white vinegar. I'm wondering if instead of trying the freeze precipitation, would it help to let it all just evaporate giving time for the crystals to form? Any insight would be greatly appreciated! Have a wonderful day,night, or experience depending on where you all are in the universe

I was never getting any crystals in my extractions either , but like many members I just wanted to pull crystals and I didn't really class an extraction a Truely successful until I got a dish of the white stuff , so this is how I did it
Step 1 , collect all the pulls from you're extraction

Step 2 get a seperate 300-400ml of water at ph 2-4 ,

Step 3 then mix it with the naphtha pulls buy mixing then seperate a good 10x

Step 4 then discard the naphtha from the acidic water. !

Step 5 Now get a minimal amount of water and mix 50g of lye

Step 6 mix basic water into acidic water , it will turn white strt away . And mix well !

Step 7 , now just pull with fresh naphtha ! And that's a mini ab ! Good luck :thumb_up:

 

[sbc1]

Earthwalker I followed your mini a/b from your tek, does it matter in regards to the volume's of water, vinegar, lye ect because these volumes your suggesting are different

 

[Earthwalker]

Earthwalker I followed your mini a/b from your tek, does it matter in regards to the volume's of water, vinegar, lye ect because these volumes your suggesting are different

The measurements and water volumes are not needed to be exact , as said in my TEK don't sweat the small stuff ! as long as the process and the ph levels are correct as it's just a simple chemical reaction that is needed !
Measurements are written in a TEK form so first timers have a recipe of sorts to follow , if you have a ph meter and you know the order of processes needed you don't need to follow a TEK ! It is that simple :thumb_up:

 

[sbc1]

Cheers for the reply and thanks for yours and cybs hard work in making great teks that are perfect and easy to follow for first timers like myself :thumb_up:

 

[DreaMToday]

So im researching this tek (joshisom's tek) its here on the forums and during the acid cook its mentioned to used an appropriate sized pot. Say if one were to scale the tek down by a 10th. So one would have 100gs acrb, 360ml distilled water, and 40ml vinegar. Would a 1 or 2 quart sauce pan be appropriate because I know doing it in too large of a pan will burn the aqueous solution because its spread too thin? For the acid cook could one use a non-stick pan or just stick with stainless steel?

Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

 

[concombres]

I would stick with stainless steel. i'm not sure if non-stick coating will react with acids, but it's better to avoid using anything questionable in an extraction. The coating may also get scratched & chip off in the water during stirring if it's teflon.

& as for pan size, you can experiment a bit. If it's tok much for a smaller pot, move it to a larger pot it will fit in. If you do not have one, you can do the boil split into 2 seperate pots & then once reduced enough to fit, mix both pots into one & continue.

 

[DreaMToday]

Thanks for the info, the tek doesn't say anything about stirring it just said boil, "(don't be afraid to boil rigorously, also make sure there is a lid on the pot)."

If ones to stir it, how often?

Also after it starts boiling is it more appropriate to lower the heat to just maintain the boiling?

 

[Earthwalker]

Thanks for the info, the tek doesn't say anything about stirring it just said boil, "(don't be afraid to boil rigorously, also make sure there is a lid on the pot)."

If ones to stir it, how often?

Also after it starts boiling is it more appropriate to lower the heat to just maintain the boiling?

I don't do the boil TEKs but I would imagine if you're rigorously boiling you should stir enough to stop from clumping on the bottom and that inturn would stop from burning or sticking and hotspoting the pot and liquid !:thumb_up:

 

[trippingmean]

if im getting a white powder/crystal dmt after my mimosa extraction, and it stores and stays in powder form at freezer temps indefinitely, but turns into a dark yellow wax after acouple days at room temperature. is that a sign of moisture in my dmt or a sign of plant fats/impurtities.

 

[decibel]

if im getting a white powder/crystal dmt after my mimosa extraction, and it stores and stays in powder form at freezer temps indefinitely, but turns into a dark yellow wax after acouple days at room temperature. is that a sign of moisture in my dmt or a sign of plant fats/impurtities.

It sounds as if its oxidizing. Not sure though - it might also just be some fats. Nothing to worry about, just make sure to keep it in an airtight container, cool and dark. Personally, I like my spice to have a some "impurities" in form of fats and DMT-Oxide, etc. - it gives the experience an extra punch :thumb_up:

 

[Hephaestus]

Hello everyone,
I recently tried Noman's DMT For the Masses Tek, and during the freeze precipitation, I only was able to precipitate probably less than 0.5 mg's of DMT from a Naphtha solution pulling from 50g of bark. There were no crystals in the naphtha solution and only extremely small slightly transparent dmt crystals sticking to the sides. I suspect that I may have used too much naphtha and am currently evaporating it off right now. Noman's tek told me to use 1ml of naphtha for every 15ml of water in the lye solution. It also told me to use 1.5 to 2 times the water if I used pre-powdered bark like I used. This meant that I used around 90ml of naphtha for each of the first and second pulls, with the third pull I tried using 15ml naphtha total. The third extraction resulted in a much more yellow, but clear and free of particulates liquid with the color and consistency of urine. However, stupidly, I mixed this with the naphtha from the second pull for the freeze precipitation process. What do you think my problem was, and do you think it would be resolved by letting it evaporate for a few days before trying to freeze precipitate it again?

Thanks.

 

[Earthwalker]

Hello everyone,
I recently tried Noman's DMT For the Masses Tek, and during the freeze precipitation, I only was able to precipitate probably less than 0.5 mg's of DMT from a Naphtha solution pulling from 50g of bark. There were no crystals in the naphtha solution and only extremely small slightly transparent dmt crystals sticking to the sides. I suspect that I may have used too much naphtha and am currently evaporating it off right now. Noman's tek told me to use 1ml of naphtha for every 15ml of water in the lye solution. It also told me to use 1.5 to 2 times the water if I used pre-powdered bark like I used. This meant that I used around 90ml of naphtha for each of the first and second pulls, with the third pull I tried using 15ml naphtha total. The third extraction resulted in a much more yellow, but clear and free of particulates liquid with the color and consistency of urine. However, stupidly, I mixed this with the naphtha from the second pull for the freeze precipitation process. What do you think my problem was, and do you think it would be resolved by letting it evaporate for a few days before trying to freeze precipitate it again?

Thanks.

If I was you I'd do a couple more pulls with 50ml naphtha and collect all the pulls together then let evap with the aid of a fan to get it down to about 1/3rd total solution ( keep an eye on it ) as it evaps quicker then you think ,
It's better to use a little less naphtha then you did but as long as you evap it down it shouldn't be a problem !!

 

[Hephaestus]

If I was you I'd do a couple more pulls with 50ml naphtha and collect all the pulls together then let evap with the aid of a fan to get it down to about 1/3rd total solution ( keep an eye on it ) as it evaps quicker then you think ,
It's better to use a little less naphtha then you did but as long as you evap it down it shouldn't be a problem !!

I heard that using a fan will convert the dmt into dmt oxide. As long as it is still in solution at 1/3 like you said, will it be fine to evap with a fan without it coverting? Thank you for your response.

 

[Earthwalker]

I don't know we're herd that from as most of the big hitters who write up the TEK advise pre evaping with a fan !

 

[DreaMToday]

Thank you, i was gonna ask what tek one would suggest then i figured Cybs hybrid tek look like a better alternative then a boiling.

When it comes down to the warm water baths could one use sand instead of water?

Cybs hybrid tek says to use a heat bath, should i just use the hot water from my faucet?

Also if one is to re-x with heptane would one want to get the temp to 208 degrees if its boiling point is 209.2 degrees... in theory. or would that be too hot?

 

[Earthwalker]

Thank you, i was gonna ask what tek one would suggest then i figured Cybs hybrid tek look like a better alternative then a boiling.

When it comes down to the warm water baths could one use sand instead of water?

Cybs hybrid tek says to use a heat bath, should i just use the hot water from my faucet?

Also if one is to re-x with heptane would one want to get the temp to 208 degrees if its boiling point is 209.2 degrees... in theory. or would that be too hot?

Cybs hybrid is a great place to start , hot water out the tap is fine as it's around 45-55c , don't follow what you mean by using sand ?? And reX with naphtha is fine , can't advise with heptane as I've never used it ! Goodluck :thumb_up: