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looking at the ACRB TEK 100g, at the end of step 2 of the clean up, when you are getting the DMT out of the naphtha and into the acid would it be worth while to lower the temperature to decrease naphtha ability to hold the DMT? just a thought and was also thinking it would be a good point to break up the tek into smaller segments.
 
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cyanraven said:
looking at the ACRB TEK 100g, at the end of step 2 of the clean up, when you are getting the DMT out of the naphtha and into the acid would it be worth while to lower the temperature to decrease naphtha ability to hold the DMT? just a thought and was also thinking it would be a good point to break up the tek into smaller segments.
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It readily shifts over to the acid solution (pH 2-3) within ~10 minutes of gentle swirling so there is likely no merit in doing this.
 
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20:1:1 water/lye/mimo(pre powdered)
Lye water solution made. Added mimo, shake rattle and roll for a few hours , then used hotplate magnetic spinner to further mix for around 24hrs.
Added pre warmed Naphtha ( about .8ml per gr of mimo) , again spinner/hotplate for a day whilst also occasionally flipping jar , rolling etc....pulled Naphtha and put in freezer. After 2 days in freezer I have absolutely nothing. I tried three times (x3 50gr) ...any one have any thoughts as to what I did wrong?
I have never done any tek before this....plz help an aspiring psychonaut
I'm too old to go "find" the spice of life.
Thanks to anyone who can help.


"Happiness is a choice, you have but to make it"
 
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hmmm.. You certain that your freezer is cold enough? could be that your NPS isn't very saturated and then your freezer isn't getting cold enough to cause the crystals to crash out. Also are you certain what you have is Mimosa root bark powder? if you've followed the method you've described above I find it hard to believe that you'd have absolutely nothing unless it's a case of bunk bark.
 
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Try evaporating some of the pulled naphta to dryness. If that does not yield any product, the quality of the bark may be in question. If it does, you can use the impure product as a seed for the naphtha in the freezer.
 
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For grins I took a jar out (been in freezer 16 or so hours) and blew warm breaths and white swirls develop. Does this mean anything? And I will certainly pull my jars out and try a partial evap.
I know full well the rules here so not being able to ask what I really want to ask, I ask this---is there some way to tell before trying tek to tell if what I have is not junk/bunk/stepped on?
 
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Bl@ster I often have the same problem. If saturated most of the Crtystals crash out but not like 10%. My freezer only gets to 20 degree. I save the solvent and use it for next time so I waste nothing.
 
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Bl@ster420 said:
For grins I took a jar out (been in freezer 16 or so hours) and blew warm breaths and white swirls develop. Does this mean anything? And I will certainly pull my jars out and try a partial evap.
I know full well the rules here so not being able to ask what I really want to ask, I ask this---is there some way to tell before trying tek to tell if what I have is not junk/bunk/stepped on?
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This sounds like you blew moisture into your cold solvent and formed ice crystals.

Blowing on warm solvent and getting misty swirls would be a better sign.
 
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Well I'm convinced that I got bunk bark. I have tried 3 diff times , many pulls, and NOTHING. Straight evaporate from pull, partial evap then freeze, fridge then freezer...I mean there isn't THAT many variables is there? Got lye, got water, got heated stir plate. All of those things are obviously real. The only thing I can figure is that it is bunk.

So I am trying a different source and NOT get prepowdered. I have read some threads ( NEXUS is dauntingly vast ) that advise against prepowdered due to quality or purity. I can explain how disappointed I am with the failure. For years I have been trying and when I finally get what I need and feel confident enough to try, it's apparently not mimo. :cry:
 
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Bl@ster420 said:
Well I'm convinced that I got bunk bark. I have tried 3 diff times , many pulls, and NOTHING. Straight evaporate from pull, partial evap then freeze, fridge then freezer...I mean there isn't THAT many variables is there? Got lye, got water, got heated stir plate. All of those things are obviously real. The only thing I can figure is that it is bunk.
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That is probably true man, unfortunately. Next time, your best bet is to get shredded or whole pieces and powder it yourself.
 
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Bl@ster420 said:
Well I'm convinced that I got bunk bark. I have tried 3 diff times , many pulls, and NOTHING. Straight evaporate from pull, partial evap then freeze, fridge then freezer...I mean there isn't THAT many variables is there? Got lye, got water, got heated stir plate. All of those things are obviously real. The only thing I can figure is that it is bunk.

So I am trying a different source and NOT get prepowdered. I have read some threads ( NEXUS is dauntingly vast ) that advise against prepowdered due to quality or purity. I can explain how disappointed I am with the failure. For years I have been trying and when I finally get what I need and feel confident enough to try, it's apparently not mimo. :cry:
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With pre-powdered bark you need more water sometimes.

If you havn`t thrown out your base soup, try separating into two jars, diluting a little until the solvent separates easily, & adding more base until ph14. Do this for both jars.

This may solve your problem but if your layers were easily separating without heat baths your bark is probably bunk.
 
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I still have 2/3 of my 50gr failures. I thought the naphtha separated quickly when I was rolling and turning the jar. I had a thought that maybe I was letting the naphtha sit on top too long and the spice went back into the muck.
I'll definitely go ahead and add even more water. I have a ph meter for my herb grow but didn't want to stick that probe in the lye solution, so I just went with the 1:1 lye/suspected mimo hoping the ph would be right. Then after some consultation here I added more lye and water and tried again. Added like 5 more grams of lye and with naphtha the mason jar is nearly full.

I will certainly try and split a jar and try again. I'll try anything I can .....

I have more from a different place coming so hopefully that will be the answer.

Again, I really do appreciate everyone's help. Thank you guys/gals
 
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Bl@ster420 said:
I still have 2/3 of my 50gr failures. I thought the naphtha separated quickly when I was rolling and turning the jar. I had a thought that maybe I was letting the naphtha sit on top too long and the spice went back into the muck.
I'll definitely go ahead and add even more water. I have a ph meter for my herb grow but didn't want to stick that probe in the lye solution, so I just went with the 1:1 lye/suspected mimo hoping the ph would be right. Then after some consultation here I added more lye and water and tried again. Added like 5 more grams of lye and with naphtha the mason jar is nearly full.

I will certainly try and split a jar and try again. I'll try anything I can .....

I have more from a different place coming so hopefully that will be the answer.

Again, I really do appreciate everyone's help. Thank you guys/gals
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Why don't you try and do an acid step? Unless i've missed something you've just gone straight to base?
 
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smaxzax said:
Kafka Tamura said:
OK, got it. Now it's crystal clear :thumb_up:
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Hi, this is my first post here (and sorry for digging up an old thread but didn't see the answer I was looking for) I just have one question... After filling the jam jar with All the pulls, can I poor into Pyrex dish then freeze? And if so should I put almost empty jam jar in freezer to see if any remaining xstals would appear from the slight naphtha left over?
Thanks !
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Yes, pyrex is fine. This is a very common question by the way. Searching just a bit will allow you to find the answers you seek. You can put the jar in there too but it is likely unnecessary.

This post will likely be moved to the thread linked below which is where you may want to post questions next time, fyi:

official extraction help thread

Welcome to the Nexus!

:)
 
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I hate to be "that guy" , but as I have ZERO experience aside from these 3 failures ,what exactly would I do?

I followed the tek I did because of its seemingly "me proof" ( I'm an idiot with this stuff , I'm a machinist by trade.)

I have two jars or suspected bunk MHRB/Lye/water and the thin layer of naphtha I couldn't pull up without having much suck up into it.
 
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