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suit13 said:
suit13 said:
Any furthter ideas how to raise the ph value to 13,5 ?
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Up ;) -> only adding more Naoh for that??
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Anything that generates a sufficient concentration of OH- ions in the reaction conditions present. Typically, alkali metal carbonates & hydroxides, or alkaline earth metal (magnesium, calcium, strontium, barium [toxic!]) hydroxides are able to do this to a varying extent. The cheapest, most effective and most readily available is sodium hydroxide.

But is it even really necessary to get the pH up to 13,5? I suggest you look into the answer to this question yourself a little more: user AcaciaConfusedYah recently made useful thread on this matter.
 
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Im doing the recommended manske from Tao of Rue,

Step 6 - Manske
Once you have redissolved your alkaloids in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar and then filtered the solution, it's time to perform the manske.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.
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However I think I added slightly too much salt and don't think I filtered enough initially. here's an image for reference. IS it good to keep going with the steps?

A white film has formed on top, and a whiteish salt has formed on the bottom.

https://imgur.com/a/kdUK5KG
---- heres a rough image

Thanks
 
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suit13 said:
If I clean the DMD crystals with ammoniak, is it normal and ok that the crystals smell like ammoniak afterwards? Can I smoke them although?
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If they smell like ammonia after being exposed to ammonia that means they're likely contaminated by ammonia... right? I personally wouldn't smoke ammonia.
 
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RoundAbout said:
suit13 said:
If I clean the DMD crystals with ammoniak, is it normal and ok that the crystals smell like ammoniak afterwards? Can I smoke them although?
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If they smell like ammonia after being exposed to ammonia that means they're likely contaminated by ammonia... right? I personally wouldn't smoke ammonia.
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So this is not normal? Because in some teks like this here it is advised to clean the crystals with ammonia:
https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Marsofold's_tek said:
Ammonia Washing is a dated procedure and it is strongly advised that this step be omitted

Chill a bottle of NON-SOAPY clear Ammonium Hydroxide(Ace Hardware Janitorial Strength Ammonia) in a refrigerator. Slowly pour 35ml of the cold ammonia over the crystals (still in the filter paper) to wash them.

Remove the filter paper from the funnel, spread it out flat and allow the crystals to COMPLETELY dry out. You will now have 2-1/2 grams of white crystal DMT.
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Can anybody confirm that it had to be a mistake if the dry crystals smell like ammonia afterwards? Or is it ok to smoke although? How to prevent crystals from smelling like ammonia after cleaning them with ammonia?
 
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In the FAQ section under 4.20(woohoo) theres a section called: should I wash my spice. it says to not wash with ammonia. sorry someone gave you bad/old info. if it were me I would try a heptane wash and see if it still smells like ammonia. best of luck!
 
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I have a few mg of bufotenine swimming in about 40-50 ml of water with a ton of dissolved sodium carbonate. Any easy way to get bufotenine out without too much loss? I tried filtering last time with coffee filters, but only managed to get about 2mg out, the rest was dissolved on the filters. I'm thinking of trying to filter again, but then washing the filters in a tiny amount of water and evaporating that. Sounds good? Any other ideas to get out as much as I can?
 
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Hi forum,

I’m doing my first extraction from Nen’s simple phyllode Tek.

Problem with my extraction is it is incredibly emulsified. There exist a 1mm clear layer on top (too small to be pulled). A brown layer that takes up ⅗ of the mixture, and ⅖ down the bottom is a darker brown/black. I’m working with about 600ml (300ml naoh’ed acacia stuff and 300ml shellite/naptha) There has not been a defat as per the tek’s instructions (I dried the leaves and twigs, so it shouldn't be a problem, I presume). I have done small agitations and left it for 2-3 weeks, and also added a teaspoon of extra naoh and in another attempt, added a teaspoon of pure salt, with extra agitations but this has only helped maybe 20%. Should I add salty water? Or extra Shellite?

Possible issues:
-I also used a mix of different trees of different acacia species, but this shouldnt be a problem either?
-I shook the mix too hard (i see the brown trapped in lighter brown naptha) (though it did say ‘shake vigorously for several minutes’)
-I waited 2-3 weeks
-using diggers shellite
-I used twigs in addition to phyllodes

I have assembled a number of options for myself from the forums

-‘Add another 50% of however much lye you used originally and agitate the jar gently’
-Add salt/salty water
-Add more Lye/water with lye
-Move mixture to a new container (this is also beneficial as the mixture is being stored in an HDPE container, which I am worried about exposing to heat, so it will allow me to more confidently expose it to a warm water bath)
-Warm water bath
-Place on a washing machine/use a vibrator

Which option/combination of options should I do? And if someone does give a response, could they give amounts that I should add?

Thank you
 
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Hi everyone ,

New to the forum , very impressed, brilliant community.

Just seeking an answer to a question I have regarding San Pedro cactus , maybe some of you guys could help me out with this.

As part of the preparation process can fresh sliced san pedro cactus (undried ) be ground up in a coffee grinder as opposed to the food blender that most people seem to use for preparing it?

Thanks a million ,

Zotz
 
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As part of the preparation process can fresh sliced san pedro cactus (undried ) be ground up in a coffee grinder as opposed to the food blender that most people seem to use for preparing it?
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it seems better and easier to dry it before blending / grinding. You can make a tea directly from fresh cacti, then reduce and start extracting.

Hey I’m having trouble finding vm+p naphtha for a mhrb extraction as I live in Ireland but I have been told I can use lighter fluid is the true?
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If your lighter fluid evap cleanly, it's OK, but be sure there is no residue while evaping it.
Lighter fluid is usually naptha + something else. The something else can be no good if it let traces while evaping.
 
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