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Ive collected the plant matter, now i soak it in vinegar/metho/h20 for a few hours and then bring it to a boil and simmer for 45 mins and filter it off and then shake the contents with shellite and simmer off again then what
 
Ive collected the plant matter, now i soak it in vinegar/metho/h20 for a few hours and then bring it to a boil and simmer for 45 mins and filter it off and then shake the contents with shellite and simmer off again then what
shaking the acidified DMT soup with shellite removes fats and oils that didnt react with the vinegar, so next with those oils removed, you will basify it, either with carbonate or hydroxide, causing the DMT to now become an oil, which your next solvent may grab. for shellite it may be neccesary to do this step at an elevated temperature, the composition can influence how much dmt it can dissolve readily at a given temperature. hexane boils really easily and throws off a lot of fumes so, consult a tek for how warm they go and how long it should sit while warm. but more or less its just shake NPS with warm basified soup, then seperate, ideally while still warm, and be mindful of fumes.
 
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Im trying to pull from the acacia using the same method I use for mimosa which is heat lie and lighter fluid. Bronson to be exact. Doing mimosa I've killed it that way but only get good with the acacia. Any advise. And yes totally new at this
 
Im trying to pull from the acacia using the same method I use for mimosa which is heat lie and lighter fluid. Bronson to be exact. Doing mimosa I've killed it that way but only get good with the acacia. Any advise. And yes totally new at this
What species of acacia? For the most part, they all respond better to an A/B extraction so you can include a defat on the acid phase.

Plenty of info to be found on these matters with a bit of a search on the forum.
 
Hooray! Away with the earwax. ;) Now I think about it... My Crystals were already crystals but a little bit too yellow. I resolved it in wasbenzine (solvent I use) and some dark yellow/brown residue was left on the bottom of the container. After this wash the crystals were much whiter as before. Also after my washing, I divided my crystals into two classes: B class and C class. B class is the cleanest and is used for smoking. C class is less clean compared to B and is used for aya. Of course A class would be pure white DMT crystals. :twisted:
 
I’ll post a pic of the end result. I know there is really no need for my contraption but I was bored and seemed like a good idea in my head. I dislike the mixing part the most of all the steps cause i have adhd so to sit still and twirl a jar around for even just a minute is hard sometimes.
Maybe it's the DMT's way of teaching you presence...
Be one with the jar and twirl in place, if only for a little while...
 
Hi All!

I'm in the middle of my first MHRB extraction and have run into an issue. I've added considerably more sodium hydroxide than is called for and can't get the ph above 11. The numbers keep sliding down no matter how much i add. The sodium hydroxide is brand new and supposedly high quality and the ph meter is calibrated. I went ahead with the naptha pull anyway and extracted next to nothing...

Many thanks!
 
Hi All!

I'm in the middle of my first MHRB extraction and have run into an issue. I've added considerably more sodium hydroxide than is called for and can't get the ph above 11. The numbers keep sliding down no matter how much i add. The sodium hydroxide is brand new and supposedly high quality and the ph meter is calibrated. I went ahead with the naptha pull anyway and extracted next to nothing...

Many thanks!
Did the soup turn black? What's the lye to water ratio?
 
Did the soup turn black? What's the lye to water ratio?
Appreciate the response dreamer042!

Yes, it turned black.
100g MHRB + 600ml water + 120ml vinegar + 300g lye (kept adding because the ph wouldn't rise :|)

I did cook it for quite some time prior to adding the lye... Instapot on low heat for 8 hours...not sure if I did that wrong.

 
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Appreciate the response dreamer042!

Yes, it turned black.
100g MHRB + 600ml water + 120ml vinegar + 300g lye (kept adding because the ph wouldn't rise :|)

I did cook it for quite some time prior to adding the lye... Instapot on low heat for 8 hours...not sure if I f*d that part.

What kind of naphtha did you use? Also how well did you mix it up. Naphtha wants to float on top pretty aggressively so to get it to touch every part of your solution can take some time. Lots of rolling the jar around to where you can’t see it floating on top still. Also when it’s mixed into the solution for me I found it helpful to take a glass stir stick and stir the solution while it’s still mixed and rising back to the top.
 
Sounds like plenty of lye, and black is a good sign that the solution was sufficiently based. 8 hours on low shouldn't be a problem.

Perhaps try leaving the next pull sit longer or mixing it more thoroughly (gently, emulsions suck).
 
Appreciate the response dreamer042!

Yes, it turned black.
100g MHRB + 600ml water + 120ml vinegar + 300g lye (kept adding because the ph wouldn't rise :|)

I did cook it for quite some time prior to adding the lye... Instapot on low heat for 8 hours...not sure if I did that wrong.

With those amounts of lye it’s highly unlikely that you didn’t base the soup correctly. I’m more thinking that either your lye isn’t lye or that the pH meter isn’t suitable for very caustic solutions. Because your mix did turn black I’m pretty sure that you can go ahead and extract with your nonpolar phase.
 
can't get the ph above 11. The numbers keep sliding down
This could be due to degradation of your pH probe. Check its specifications, since many of them aren't really intended for working with concentrated caustic base.
 
This could be due to degradation of your pH probe. Check its specifications, since many of them aren't really intended for working with concentrated caustic base.
Ok, thanks Transform, it's brand new, which doesn't necessarily mean anything, and can handle from 0-14, but maybe i traveled beyond that range without realizing and then it became too acidic for the meter to handle.


@Varallo
What kind of naphtha did you use? Also how well did you mix it up. Naphtha wants to float on top pretty aggressively so to get it to touch every part of your solution can take some time. Lots of rolling the jar around to where you can’t see it floating on top still. Also when it’s mixed into the solution for me I found it helpful to take a glass stir stick and stir the solution while it’s still mixed and rising back to the top.
Thanks for the comments, Varallo . Actually, sorry, i used Heptane: Lab Alley Heptane Lab Grade Solvent for Extraction, Cleaning & Lab Use, 1 Gallon (4 x 1 Quart Bottles): Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
I thought i did a good job of mixing it in, but I could be mistaken...

Perhaps try leaving the next pull sit longer or mixing it more thoroughly (gently, emulsions suck).
Cool, will do.


So, at this point, can I continue to work with the same batch? Check where the ph is at, add more lye if needed, and try another round of heptane?

I was growing increasingly worried that something was off and was feeling like I was maybe just dumping more resources into a chicken that couldn't produce a golden egg...

But, of course, would rather not waste what has already gone into it....

Thanks everyone, greatly appreciated.
 
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